VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[KАRАMBA]

But is Quinn successful?

It's too early to judge.

 

[chuck42]

Well, you're touching on a very controversial topic. What do we even mean by the word nobility? It is known that this term was originally used in relation to the patrician houses of the Roman Empire.
Representatives of these houses, being very influential people, often owned brothels. Yes, this was practiced. Later, with the spread of Christianity, this term acquired some moral meaning. However, as before, it was mainly used to indicate position in the social hierarchy.
Noble people were mainly called representatives of the aristocracy. We can recall quite a few noble gentlemen whose actions may seem to us today in some way reprehensible.
After the Reformation, as far as is known, this term began to be used not only in relation to the aristocracy and clergy, but also in relation to the most successful business executives, entrepreneurs, and masters of art. Among which we can also easily find examples of people with ambiguous biography.
Why am I saying this?! Because if you really, without hypocrisy, look at the facts, then you need to recognize a simple fact - a successful person who has taken place in life will be called noble. And the way it was done won't matter too much. I mean if Quinn can succeed, she will be a successful businesswoman and noble member of society.

as the founder of quinnology, im not sure how to rate your following of her teachings. you do come out strong! when confronted directly, side step and redirect. very quinn move, you did this well. however, theres no way quinn would engage in this debate with anything other than hysterically pointing and laughing at those that expect her to give a damn about their view on morals or nobility. an even more likely response is to hit the hooka, smile, and contemplate if a sense of nobility will shield their ass from her strap on.

 

[KАRАMBA]

however, theres no way quinn would engage in this debate with anything other than hysterically pointing and laughing at those that expect her to give a damn about their view on morals or nobility. an even more likely response is to hit the hooka, smile, and contemplate if a sense of nobility will shield their ass from her strap on.

It's so unfair...
So unfair.
There are things that cannot be ignored.
For example, the highest intellectual level of the Divine Quinn.

 

[Darkwen]

It's too early to judge.

She at least a year into this took on a lot of girls and put herself in a deep hole also thanks to Maya might have destroy everything she was trying build

 

[KАRАMBA]

She at least a year into this took on a lot of girls and put herself in a deep hole also thanks to Maya might have destroy everything she was trying build

I repeat - it’s too early to judge. Yes, perhaps she took some wrong steps due to haste. But I'm sure she will overcome this and turn it to her advantage.

 

[Darkwen]

I repeat - it’s too early to judge. Yes, perhaps she took some wrong steps due to haste. But I'm sure she will overcome this and turn it to her advantage.

To do that Quinn has to admit she was wrong that not something we see from her apart from talking to Tommy at the end of EP9

 

[Orgitas]

 

[lukrame]

quinn reminds me of some methhead chick when i use to live in the midwest. Not my fav. But i can sorta see why people like her.

 

[chuck42]

She at least a year into this took on a lot of girls and put herself in a deep hole also thanks to Maya might have destroy everything she was trying build

theres a reason for the term "pimpin aint easy". but shes doing it. and she doing it while running a drug ring, becoming hots vp, and doing well enough educationally to still be a student at B&R. if you take your bias of the business's out of the equation, its pretty impressive.

 

[laudano93]

Well, you're touching on a very controversial topic. What do we even mean by the word nobility? It is known that this term was originally used in relation to the patrician houses of the Roman Empire.
Representatives of these houses, being very influential people, often owned brothels. Yes, this was practiced. Later, with the spread of Christianity, this term acquired some moral meaning. However, as before, it was mainly used to indicate position in the social hierarchy.
Noble people were mainly called representatives of the aristocracy. We can recall quite a few noble gentlemen whose actions may seem to us today in some way reprehensible.
After the Reformation, as far as is known, this term began to be used not only in relation to the aristocracy and clergy, but also in relation to the most successful business executives, entrepreneurs, and masters of art. Among which we can also easily find examples of people with ambiguous biography.
Why am I saying this?! Because if you really, without hypocrisy, look at the facts, then you need to recognize a simple fact - a successful person who has taken place in life will be called noble. And the way it was done won't matter too much. I mean if Quinn can succeed, she will be a successful businesswoman and noble member of society.

Dude. C'mon. Nowadays, the meaning of "noble" has almost nothing to do with what it meant on past centuries. At least not in my country (I'm from latinoamerica).

I think when people says Quinn actions are not "noble" they are trying to say "not morally good". That's the point that matters. The rest is just a semantic game.

 

[Orgitas]

Morally, ethically, and legally Quinn's actions are not good. If caught she would likely get kicked out of College and arrested. Indicted on charges of drug dealing and sex trafficking and some coercion charges, too. Those are not the actions of a noble person, quite the opposite.

 

[chuck42]

remember, karamba. the next moves are, point, laugh, remember where you left the hooka

 

[KАRАMBA]

Dude. C'mon. Nowadays, the meaning of "noble" has almost nothing to do with what it meant on past centuries. At least not in my country (I'm from latinoamerica).

I think when people says Quinn actions are not "noble" they are trying to say "not morally good". That's the point that matters. The rest is just a semantic game.

Oh no, no. It's just your point of view. Just because you see it that way doesn't mean it's true for everyone. And I'm not lying, no. To put it bluntly, such a thing as a “moral point of view” is itself a very controversial thing.

 

[KАRАMBA]

If caught she would likely get kicked out of College and arrested.

IF caught...

 

[Darkwen]

theres a reason for the term "pimpin aint easy". but shes doing it. and she doing it while running a drug ring, becoming hots vp, and doing well enough educationally to still be a student at B&R. if you take your bias of the business's out of the equation, its pretty impressive.

educationally Quinn in the same boat as Rio which isn't good. Quinn isn't making money selling drugs and sex to college students getting and keeping workers should be the hard part making money that should be rolling in. Impressive not at all

 

[laudano93]

Oh no, no. It's just your point of view. Just because you see it that way doesn't mean it's true for everyone. And I'm not lying, no. To put it bluntly, such a thing as a “moral point of view” is itself a very controversial thing.

Man. I respect your point of view. I'm not arguing on the morality of Quinn's behavior. I know it's controversial.

But before starting to discuss anything, people need to state a language in common. We need to share the definition and use of some words in their context.

If someone says Quinn actions are not noble and you answer using another definition for the word "noble" it just feels like cheating and, IMO, pointless to the discussion. It's just a distraction from the real thing: are Quinn's actions ethically justified?

For me, it's pretty obvious what others are meaning by the word "noble".

Regards

 

[Ray_D]

Now everything makes sense, the only reason why Karamba pretends to love Quinn and start a religion in his name, is to not pay taxes.

 

[KАRАMBA]

Morally, ethically, and legally Quinn's actions are not good. If caught she would likely get kicked out of College and arrested. Indicted on charges of drug dealing and sex trafficking and some coercion charges, too. Those are not the actions of a noble person, quite the opposite.

Well, OK. I see you are a great champion of moral, ethical and legal standards.
And has already prepared a prison cell for Quinn.
In that case, she will share it with Madame Rose.
Certainly. What did you expect?!
I highly doubt that providing sexual services at the Pink Rose is a legal business.
And Madame is responsible for this.
Oh yeah, and for seducing young college students too.

 

[chuck42]

educationally Quinn in the same boat as Rio which isn't good. Quinn isn't making money selling drugs and sex to college students getting and keeping workers should be the hard part making money that should be rolling in. Impressive not at all

its stated that rio is doing better than she gives herself credit for, and is passing her classes........not sure that point is in your favor. ill also note that you are saying this as a josey advocate. im a fan of hers too, but she only got in on the reject path lol
furthermore, any successful business person knows that start up and infrastructure are the hardest parts. she has that. on multiple fronts. like her or not, that girls putting in work.

 

[KАRАMBA]

Man. I respect your point of view. I'm not arguing on the morality of Quinn's behavior. I know it's controversial.

But before starting to discuss anything, people need to state a language in common. We need to share the definition and use of some words in their context.

If someone says Quinn actions are not noble and you answer using another definition for the word "noble" it just feels like cheating and, IMO, pointless to the discussion. It's just a distraction from the real thing: are Quinn's actions ethically justified?

For me, it's pretty obvious what others are meaning by the word "noble".

Regards

I'm sorry if we can't understand each other. I don’t mean anything else by this word at all. I understand perfectly well what you're talking about.
It’s just that for me, as for many others, the very concept of morality and ethics has an ambiguous meaning. And I’m not sure about the justification of using this word - “noble” in this context.
Well, for example, was Don Corleone a noble man or not? Someone will say yes. But someone will say - no.