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ChipLecsap

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Josy isn't devalue at all she is very unselfish but she does have pride
Josy sometimes remind me of Amy Raudenfeld ( Rita Volk :love: ) from Faking it. She was may favorite, best thing, probably the only really good thing about the entire show, but she did often seemed like she has zero spine:(.
 

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I will have you know that we boomers have forgotten more about drugs than you children will ever know.
you'd be right but I'm not so convinced, the fact that a part of them theoretically lived through 68 in my opinion pushed the remaining part into even more extreme positions, where drugs were either the absolute evil or the mark of artists
 

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Having one girl in the whole game (three if you count Josy and Maya, which I don't) be a virgin is "catering to virgin-obsessed incels"? Bless your heart, you sure are special.
Jill's virginity is really hard to explain, considering her parents aren't religious fanatics and don't control her as much as Patrick controls Maya.
 

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Having one girl in the whole game (three if you count Josy and Maya, which I don't) be a virgin is "catering to virgin-obsessed incels"? Bless your heart, you sure are special.
Well, We also have 2 Married woman, who has zero Sexual activities. We have a Girl whos boyfriend is Gay , we have an another teacher who somehow cant find a sexual partner, -despite she is hot as fuck, - unless with our 19 years old protagonist. and we have the 21 years old Virgin. The only main girl who is actually also not in any relationship

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Josy isn't devalue at all she is very unselfish but she does have pride
If she had pride, she wouldn't have been so hung up on MC and humiliated in front of him after the breakup. It's certainly emotion and love, but her actions in ep10 belittle her greatly.
I don't have strong complaints, it is a game after all and DPС wants the player to feel special and wanted through such cheap manipulation of DPС.
 
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Josy sometimes remind me of Amy Raudenfeld ( Rita Volk :love: ) from Faking it. She was may favorite, best thing, probably the only really good thing about the entire show, but she did often seemed like she has zero spine:(.
I don't get that feeling from her I think sometimes it might like that to others because we don't know everything about her that said I think we know a lot but there are pieces missing
 

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We will see if Lana's history somehow justifies this reluctance of hers
I don't think so. I can't imagine how her parents raised her if Jill has 19th century ideas about her boyfriend. I wouldn't be surprised if Jill dragged MC to the wedding just so he could bang her at the bridal shower.
 

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If she had pride, she wouldn't have been so hung up on MC and humiliated in front of him after the breakup. It's certainly emotion and love, but her actions in ep10 belittle her greatly.
I don't have strong complaints, it is a game after all and DPС wants the player to feel special and wanted through such cheap manipulation of DPС.
Personally I don't see that has a lack of pride I don't see Josy's actions in ep 10 as wrong
 

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I don't think so. I can't imagine how her parents raised her if Jill has 19th century ideas about her boyfriend. I wouldn't be surprised if Jill dragged MC to the wedding just so he could bang her at the bridal shower.
whatever happens will remain a coarse storyline :rolleyes: , but for now Lana's fate is unclear, all we know is that at some point her parents cut ties with her.

wouldn't it be surprising that she had dated the wrong person, that it led her to make dangerous choices that somehow led to her death, this would somehow justify Jill's hyper cautious attitude
 
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you'd be right but I'm not so convinced, the fact that a part of them theoretically lived through 68 in my opinion pushed the remaining part into even more extreme positions, where drugs were either the absolute evil or the mark of artists
There's a better explanation, he's a Swede. I don't think he's ever left Europe in his life, despite his claim to have visited California.
 
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Jill's virginity is really hard to explain, considering her parents aren't religious fanatics and don't control her as much as Patrick controls Maya.
How? There are more reasons to be a virgin at 20 than just religious extremism. Jill is a super sheltered rich girl who grew up expecting a storybook romance. How she developed this expectation is unclear, but what is clear is that:
- She has strong feelings about fate, and destiny, and a profound underlying universal order. For whatever reason.
- As such, she's looking for Prince Charming to sweep her off her feet like in the fairy tales.
- And she expects her first time to be perfect. Not just good, literally perfect.

She's not "saving herself for marriage" for religious reasons, she's saving herself for Prince Charming, because that's what girls do in fairy tales. She's dated several men before, including Rusty, none of whom were Prince Charming. As such, they probably didn't get a second date. And definitely not a third, because for god knows what reason, she thinks you have to fuck on the third date. It's in the rules or something.
 

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How? There are more reasons to be a virgin at 20 than just religious extremism. Jill is a super sheltered rich girl who grew up expecting a storybook romance. How she developed this expectation is unclear, but what is clear is that:
- She has strong feelings about fate, and destiny, and a profound underlying universal order. For whatever reason.
- As such, she's looking for Prince Charming to sweep her off her feet like in the fairy tales.
- And she expects her first time to be perfect. Not just good, literally perfect.

She's not "saving herself for marriage" for religious reasons, she's saving herself for Prince Charming, because that's what girls do in fairy tales. She's dated several men before, including Rusty, none of whom were Prince Charming. As such, they probably didn't get a second date. And definitely not a third, because for god knows what reason, she thinks you have to fuck on the third date. It's in the rules or something.
but the problem is that in the other hand she is extremely Stupid and Naive, and to think the at least one guy not fooled her to get inside of her pussy, it's hard to believe. :LOL:

Her story would be much more better if in the past she burned herself, and now she is much more careful , and frankly, this was the vibe she was giving for while. I said it many times , ( and even if dpc himself would come out and deny it, I still won't belive him ) , that originally Jill was not a virgin. This was a big debate in the past, and I'm sure he was aware of it, and saw, how many more people claimed that she is Virgin and since they were the big donor simps, so he catered to them.
 
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you'd be right but I'm not so convinced, the fact that a part of them theoretically lived through 68 in my opinion pushed the remaining part into even more extreme positions, where drugs were either the absolute evil or the mark of artists
You obviously were not up and around in 68. You missed a lot. There is no replacement for being there. You cannot guess what it was like.

On the other hand, if humans survive another 60 years, and solve all kinds of current problems, humans then will have no idea what it was like to be here now.
 
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but the problem is that in the other hand she is extremely Stupid and Naive, and to think the at least one guy not fooled her to get inside of her pussy, it's hard to believe. :LOL:

Her story would be much more better if in the past she burned herself, and now she is much more careful , and frankly, this was the vibe she was giving for while. I said it many times , ( and even if dpc himself would come out and deny it, I still won't belive him ) , that originally Jill was not a virgin. This was a big debate in the past, and I'm sure he was aware of it, and saw, how many more people claimed that she is Virgin and since they were the big donor simps, so he catered to them.
Perhaps Jill was a virgin, because we are playing a game where there are a lot of whores or girls who were previously in relationships and there is also a Hot group, to change the pace of the plot a little, here an innocent princess named Jill appeared to create a separate plot of romanticism away from all these debauchery, and what’s interesting is that the plot with Jill at some point may be a test for Mc, like whether he will be faithful to her or... well, you get the idea... in short, I wouldn’t be surprised there will be a lot of drama with her. Although I’ve always liked Jill, although her story is still not completely clear to me)))
 

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If she had pride, she wouldn't have been so hung up on MC and humiliated in front of him after the breakup. It's certainly emotion and love, but her actions in ep10 belittle her greatly.
I don't have strong complaints, it is a game after all and DPС wants the player to feel special and wanted through such cheap manipulation of DPС.
The idea that there is something humiliating about strong emotion, or that there is something manipulating about it are stereotypically male attitudes. Sometimes women decide they can live with it because of their own strong feelings, and sometimes women decide they simply cannot put up with it.

Here's what the picture looks like. Hubby comes home from work to wife and 3-4 kids, plops down in front of the tv, and says, hey hun, bring me a beer, what's for dinnerl? I'm tired, I worked hard today, maybe we could have sex tonight. Yup, just like that. Not one word about, how was your day dear?

It is true that there is such a thing as a househusband who nurtures his kids and is emotional with his wife and talks to her. Meanwhile he is also straight. It happens. But there is a reason for stereotypes, and househusbands are quite rare. And it is also true that feminist rebellion has changed this somewhat, a little. Hubby can wash the dishes.
 
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whatever happens will remain a coarse storyline :rolleyes: , but for now Lana's fate is unclear, all we know is that at some point her parents cut ties with her.

wouldn't it be surprising that she had dated the wrong person, that it led her to make dangerous choices that somehow led to her death, this would somehow justify Jill's hyper cautious attitude
She died from OD. Jill mentioned in EP7 that Lana went through a phase:

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ji "She wasn't allowed to come back home at times, and that was her way of still seeing me."
mc "Why couldn't she come back home?"
ji "My parents thought she was a bad influence on me. She went through a phase and..."
ji "Do you know how some families have a black sheep?"
that time Jill's dad turned her away from home (EP9):

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ji "He tries to hide it, but... He never forgave himself for what he did."
mc "What did he do?"
ji "He turned her away from home."
ji "She didn't act as he wanted and refused to change for him."
ji "And he thinks that if he only had tried harder, she wouldn't have left, and she'd still be alive today."
Jill's flashback with Lana in EP7 intro is probably the last time she seen her alive. And Jill's special attitude to drugs explains that well enough too.
 

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but the problem is that in the other hand she is extremely Stupid and Naive, and to think the at least one guy not fooled her to get inside of her pussy, it's hard to believe. :LOL:
Jill is extremely naive, yes. However, and with the caveat that no character can be smarter than their writer, I don't think she's supposed to be stupid; quite the opposite. I think we're supposed to have the impression that Jill is smarter than average, as are Bella, Sage, and Lily.

Furthermore, her particular brand of naivete probably lends itself well to protecting her from DIK horndogs. Remember, she wants a storybook romance with Prince Charming. Probably lots of guys have tried to get in her pants, and that turns her off, because Prince Charming wouldn't do that.

Think about it this way: when you compliment her as DIK-status MC, you get -RP Jill. Why? Because DIK-MC says stuff like, "wow, you're super hot!" or, "your ass looks great in that dress." That's not what Prince Charming would say. So it turns her off, because she thinks he's just trying to fuck her like all those other guys.
 
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