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felicemastronzo

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Doesn't have to be anything Neil has done specifically. Could be something like a company he worked for making him a scapegoat for some failure and saddling him with some kind of settlement payment.
there doesn't seem to be any mention of this possible problem in the game, and we've seen Neil on the construction site and talked to people who work with him like Luis the window salesman, so I would dismiss it as a hypothesis
 

DavDR

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Agreed. Neil works in construction… as does my brother, who owns a half-million-dollar house, three cars, and supports a wife and five kids with that income. And Neil’s a supervisor… and somehow he’s barely getting by.

Now, a plausible explanation would be that when Lynette died, the doctors went to extraordinary lengths to save her, and they were very expensive, and Neil got saddled with the entirety of that hospital bill.

I have a friend who nearly lost her life to Covid, and her bill was in the millions. Without health insurance, she’d be paying that (and her student loans) off for life. If Neil was uninsured—if he’s non-union and his bosses shafted him—of course he’s poor, and might be poor forever. And if he earns enough money to pay those giant bills and a mortgage, he’s not eligible for government aid.

So: implausible, but not impossible. It’s just DPC never fully explained the poverty.
Someone else made a similar point but 19 years of debt? There is such a thing as bankruptcy and it's not as hard as to get through as most think. It's also a plausible escape for Maya. Anyway we could quibble about it forever. The point is DPC doesn't research, he just makes up and that doesn't make for a very good story. Also, DPC claimed in one post that he visited San Diego once. I don't believe it, he's either totally oblivious or he steps around the truth a lot.
 

KАRАMBA

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While we don't know what kind of opportunities Neil has we know know he is working
He's working, yes...
But maybe he's so dumb that he forgets to collect his salary.
This would not be surprising. He's MC's father after all.
 

Darkwen

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He's working, yes...
But maybe he's so dumb that he forgets to collect his salary.
This would not be surprising. He's MC's father after all.
He can't be to dumb he got a girl that comes from money to sleep with him
 

DavDR

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I'm assuming this is because the MC didn't bond with Neil until he was 12. It was only through a legal dispute that Neil was awarded custody of his son.
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No that's just an English expression, it doesn't connotate that the bonding began at that time it just indicates that the activity brought Father and Son into a closer bond.
 

DavDR

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Don't find a problem where there isn't one. Are you conducting a legal dispute yourself without having legal protection insurance? Let's see how far you get. It also depends on who you are suing. If your opponent is rich, he will drag you from court to court and legal fees are not cheap.

For example, why would he go to prison over a custody dispute? One speaks of a legal dispute and not of a criminal case or a capital crime.
Google Anti Slapp legislation in the US. That will explain it to you.
 

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Fucking LMAO. I mean hey, I'm all for everyone enjoying their LI's and all.
If people said she was cute, petit, sporty, competitive, kinky, sexy and quite a few other things, I'd say: Hell fucking yeah.

But LOYAL? Lmao. The game fucking starts with her being a hoe and cheating on Maya.
Josy is a lot of great things(yes, I am a MJ enjoyer too), but using loyalty as a standout virtue for Josy is beyond delusional.
The stale relationship doesn't not justify cheating, end of story. Brake it off and fuck who you want.
Josy and Maya are opposed to each other by DPC himself.
Some character traits stand out more clearly against the background of others.
It doesn't matter that Josy was cheating on Maya. What matters is that Josy's loyalty is now really shown by DPC as one of the most important characteristics of her character. She tells several times that she doesn't want to cheat on Maya and wants to break up first with her and then date MC. She doesn't even look at MC so as not to kiss him accidentally, she's so focused on Maya's fidelity.
Insecure, needy, emotionally immature, sore loser, constant emotional blackmail and she's a cheater :unsure:
The fact that Josy is insecure is true. The rest is just how you interpret the character. Also, Josy having self-doubts is a total fan service, created so that more people like her.
 

Darkwen

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Josy and Maya are opposed to each other by DPC himself.
Some character traits stand out more clearly against the background of others.
It doesn't matter that Josy was cheating on Maya. What matters is that Josy's loyalty is now really shown by DPC as one of the most important characteristics of her character. She tells several times that she doesn't want to cheat on Maya and wants to break up first with her and then date MC. She doesn't even look at MC so as not to kiss him accidentally, she's so focused on Maya's fidelity.

The fact that Josy is insecure is true. The rest is just how you interpret the character. Also, Josy having self-doubts is a total fan service, created so that more people like her.
Josy always had her self-doubts that wasn't something added later it there in ep1 and ep2
 

dalli_x

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No that's just an English expression, it doesn't connotate that the bonding began at that time it just indicates that the activity brought Father and Son into a closer bond.
The question still remains, even if there was only a closer bond? It is suggested to us that Neil is the MC's sole caregiver since his birth. How is an even closer bond supposed to be? No, something is wrong there.

I have grave fears about Lynette. I'm just playing from the beginning again and just read EP6 today so Lynette didn't want Neil to read her diary. There will be something in this diary that Lynette kept from Neil. There are a lot of possibilities as to what it could be, but I imagine it will shock the MC.
 

DavDR

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What is this supposed to explain to me?
It will explain how most of the lawsuit theories bantered around on this forum just aren't possible, also look up standing, which is a major roadblock to most suits going forward. One of the provisions of standing is if the court can remedy the complaint in the suit. If the court can't remedy then the case is dead. So, take the Tybalt suit. MC didn't have the money to pay for the damages so the suit would be dead because the court can't order MC to pay money he doesn't have.
 

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It will explain how most of the lawsuit theories bantered around on this forum just aren't possible, also look up standing, which is a major roadblock to most suits going forward. One of the provisions of standing is if the court can remedy the complaint in the suit. If the court can't remedy then the case is dead. So, take the Tybalt suit. MC didn't have the money to pay for the damages so the suit would be dead because the court can't order MC to pay money he doesn't have.
What does Tybalt's suit have to do with Neil's lawsuit? Nothing.

What do legal fees and court costs have to do with compensation? Nothing.

Neil pays off legal fees and court costs.
 

DavDR

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What does Tybalt's suit have to do with Neil's lawsuit? Nothing.

What do legal fees and court costs have to do with compensation? Nothing.

Neil pays off legal fees and court costs.
I'm going to try one more time and then I'm going to ignore.

A lawsuit is a process. Best visualized as a series of hurdles that you must clear in order to go forward and eventually wind up in a room with lawyers in front of a judge. Most of the early and even some of the middle hurdles are just process that don't require a lot of billable time from a lawyer to pass. They're just routine. But those early hurdles are where the vast majority of lawsuits die! This is mainly because of standing. If you can't get past standing, you don't have a lawsuit. Now, if someone is really really mad and really wants to get at someone else and starts filing lawsuit after lawsuit that won't clear standing then they run into a wall called anti-slapp. And now they're in trouble because anti-slapp can fuck you up. Most lawyers won't go anywhere near anti-slapp.

That's why all of these theories just don't matter, they are not possible under the law.
 

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It will explain how most of the lawsuit theories bantered around on this forum just aren't possible, also look up standing, which is a major roadblock to most suits going forward. One of the provisions of standing is if the court can remedy the complaint in the suit. If the court can't remedy then the case is dead. So, take the Tybalt suit. MC didn't have the money to pay for the damages so the suit would be dead because the court can't order MC to pay money he doesn't have.
Not trying to shutdown discussion, but I feel compelled to clarify that redressability is the element of standing that you're talking about, and that has nothing to do with whether a defendant can pay for damages. The questions is whether the requested relief is likely to provide remedy for the plaintiff's injury, independent of whether or not a defendant will actually be able to pay the judgement. A claim would lack redressability if, even if the court ordered compensatory damages, the money would neither address the injury nor deter future wrongdoing.

I don't know the theories going around here, but a good faith civil tort claim against someone who wronged you will pretty much always have standing.
 
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dalli_x

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I'm going to try one more time and then I'm going to ignore.

A lawsuit is a process. Best visualized as a series of hurdles that you must clear in order to go forward and eventually wind up in a room with lawyers in front of a judge. Most of the early and even some of the middle hurdles are just process that don't require a lot of billable time from a lawyer to pass. They're just routine. But those early hurdles are where the vast majority of lawsuits die! This is mainly because of standing. If you can't get past standing, you don't have a lawsuit. Now, if someone is really really mad and really wants to get at someone else and starts filing lawsuit after lawsuit that won't clear standing then they run into a wall called anti-slapp. And now they're in trouble because anti-slapp can fuck you up. Most lawyers won't go anywhere near anti-slapp.

That's why all of these theories just don't matter, they are not possible under the law.
You don't need to explain anything to me because you don't understand one thing. Money makes the world go round. If Lynette's father sued Neil, then Neil is still in litigation and has to pay legal fees. Lynette's parents were rich and money rules the world. Then they ran out of money, Neil wins and Lynette's parents had to sell the villa.

I also posted something from DPC's Q&As to you. Read it again. So anti slapp legislation is for the ass.:p
 
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