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DavDR

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TundraMouse said:
Not trying to shutdown discussion, but I feel compelled to clarify that redressability is the element of standing that you're talking about, and that has nothing to do with whether a defendant can pay for damages. The questions is whether the requested relief is likely to provide remedy for the plaintiff's injury, independent of whether or not a defendant will actually be able to pay the judgement. A claim would lack redressability if, even if the court ordered compensatory damages, the money would neither address the injury nor deter future wrongdoing.

I don't know the theories going around here, but a good faith civil tort claim against someone who wronged you will pretty much always have standing.
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See the post following yours.
 
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DavDR said:
I'm going to try one more time and then I'm going to ignore.

A lawsuit is a process. Best visualized as a series of hurdles that you must clear in order to go forward and eventually wind up in a room with lawyers in front of a judge. Most of the early and even some of the middle hurdles are just process that don't require a lot of billable time from a lawyer to pass. They're just routine. But those early hurdles are where the vast majority of lawsuits die! This is mainly because of standing. If you can't get past standing, you don't have a lawsuit. Now, if someone is really really mad and really wants to get at someone else and starts filing lawsuit after lawsuit that won't clear standing then they run into a wall called anti-slapp. And now they're in trouble because anti-slapp can fuck you up. Most lawyers won't go anywhere near anti-slapp.

That's why all of these theories just don't matter, they are not possible under the law.
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While a lawsuit is indeed a process, standing is generally not the reason cases are dismissed, and it's certainly not some automatic procedural safeguard that doesn't take up billable hours. In many states, lack of standing is an affirmative defense and the burden is on the defense to show that there is no standing. And the federal courts have been increasingly likely to remand cases that lack standing back to state court.

The reality is that all legal action is time consuming, and thus expensive, and that's why the vast majority of cases are settled, many before a motion to dismiss is ever submitted.

edit: I want to add that anti-slapp laws apply to a narrow band of actions, usually relating to lawsuits about someone's speech or municipal procedure, like zoning permits. Furthermore, anti-slapp laws can't change the elements of standing, which come from the US constitution. Instead, anti-slapp laws try to cut down on frivolous action by pausing litigation at discovery, which is the most costly part of a lawsuit; or by allowing courts to grant attorneys fees to the defendant with broader discretion.

As a reminder, access to the courts is a fundamental right in the United States.
 
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dalli_x said:
What does Tybalt's suit have to do with Neil's lawsuit? Nothing.

What do legal fees and court costs have to do with compensation? Nothing.

Neil pays off legal fees and court costs.
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Dude, are you being deliberately obtuse? He's obviously using Tybalt's bullshit as an example of how standing works. (which is wrong, as TundraMouse pointed out, but that's beside the point) Not saying it's related to whatever legal troubles Neil may have. What is wrong with you?

And legal fees and court costs would not be enough to bankrupt a man with a decent job. Certainly not for eighteen years.
 
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TundraMouse said:
While a lawsuit is indeed a process, standing is generally not the reason cases are dismissed, and it's certainly not some automatic procedural safeguard that doesn't take up billable hours. In many states, lack of standing is an affirmative defense and the burden is on the defense to show that there is no standing. And the federal courts have been increasingly likely to remand cases that lack standing back to state court.

The reality is that all legal action is time consuming, and thus expensive, and that's why the vast majority of cases are settled, many before a motion to dismiss is ever submitted.
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In normal cases I would agree, but what we were discussing was the character Neil being ruined financially, through the courts, by a rich man in revenge for the rich man's daughter dying in childbirth. I was trying to explain why all of the lawsuit theories about the game were not possible. Like Tybalt's threatened lawsuit blaming MC on the flimsy evidence that he gate crashed a college party when a fire alarm went off. Or the Lynette's Dad v Neil.
 
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1000Spiders said:
Dude, are you being deliberately obtuse? He's obviously using Tybalt's bullshit as an example of how standing works. (which is wrong, as TundraMouse pointed out, but that's beside the point) Not saying it's related to whatever legal troubles Neil may have. What is wrong with you?

And legal fees and court costs would not be enough to bankrupt a man with a decent job. Certainly not for eighteen years.
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You don't understand sarcasm, do you?

It depends on how long a court case takes. If it takes a long time and you don't have legal protection insurance, then you will become poor.
 
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WhatEver3333

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Hi, can anyone help me?
I still cant play the last update because game crashes when it starts at the doctor office.
I have deleted all my old saves, reinstalled the game, did the patch, played the game from the start without using any mods but it still crashes when i get to there...
 
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I haven't played this in a while, so I'm not really caught up with the story. So what kind of playthrough currently has the most content?

I'm thinking about staying Neutral up until M+J party throuple confession, then spend the rest of S1 going DIK, doing all the side characters. If I remember correctly, you only miss out on Jill playing this route. How does this play out in S2? Can I still keep up my manwhore playthough?
 
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wuckfit123 said:
I haven't played this in a while, so I'm not really caught up with the story. So what kind of playthrough currently has the most content?

I'm thinking about staying Neutral up until M+J party throuple confession, then spend the rest of S1 going DIK, doing all the side characters. If I remember correctly, you only miss out on Jill playing this route. How does this play out in S2? Can I still keep up my manwhore playthough?
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More content in the sense of more scenes I would say is the 'Others path'. That is, choosing not to bind oneself to any of the LIs at the end of the eighth chapter. Before the eighth chapter by remaining with neutral affinity you can see most of the content
 
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On a variety of non-Bella paths, Bella seems to be playing the long game, calling MC to do yoga.....
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Joshy92 said:
I don't blame Quinn for the whole restaurant or drugs stuff.
Some arsehole is blackmailing her or something and forcing her to do bad things.

Quinn is a sweet girl she wouldn't do anything bad unless she was forced too.
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Only Joshy92 gets this look.

In reality, she is shy and it trying to get her courage up to ask Joshy to the Sadie Hawkins Dance....

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Only Joshy92 gets this look.

In reality, she is shy and it trying to get her courage up to ask Joshy to the Sadie Hawkins Dance....
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A dance with Quinn?
That would be so awesome. I would make sure to wear a nice tuxedo and have plenty of red roses for my angel.
And I would make sure to have a love letter for her that details why I think she is the one for me.
 
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game was great until i followed the guide to the point where you gotta dump all the main girls, yet you can still fool around with the side chicks? i already restarted once because i didnt have enough points for the love triangle with maya & josy just to have it mean nothing if you pick someone else, should have a gallery unlock that doesnt require a mod because with all the forced free roam trying to navigate the dik frat is a headache
 
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