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mostwanted8

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If we take the words away from their meaning, of course.

The point is not that she failed, but that she put no effort into it, no effort at all. She wanted to surf, surfing is not easy, then she doesn't want to surf anymore. Which doesn't justify that 'that's what she wanted to do with her life' . What she wanted was a holiday, paid for by her grandmother.
She’s young and dumb as they say and didn’t know any better. Sometimes you learn life’s lessons the hard way.
We all can agree on that and move on, otherwise we’ll beat ourselves into a corner.
I don't think I like this hating Zoey meta that much, can't we go back to Maya and Josy are cheating liars, Jill has a goblin smile and Quinn is a proustite rhetoric? :cautious::Kappa:
I definitely agree that Quinn, even though she’s my girl is a pimp and a prostitute :BootyTime:
 
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I have nothing against Magnar, it’s nothing personal when I say I’d cuck him :BootyTime:
Indeed, the Helena and John Boy’s part is more cohesive and it would be more fun to explore. Although I don’t really care about her, don’t find her physically attractive enough :KEK: she has a cool personality though.
1. Cool, easy-going personality
2. As for me, she's hot.
It's funny that Elena is just a base model for Genesis 8, with a different skin texture. Simple in creation, but still looking good.
 

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mostwanted8 Said:
I definitely agree that Quinn, even though she’s my girl is a pimp and a prostitute :BootyTime:
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Pimp for sure but is Quinn really a prostitute, besides the MC, do we know of anyone else she's slept with since the MC turned up to the college, hmmm
 

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1. Cool, easy-ging personality
2. As for me, she's hot.
It's funny that Elena is just a base model for Genesis 8, with a different skin texture. Simple in creation, but still looking good.
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She has no curves though, no ass, no hips, no tits. Nothing at all :eek::eek::eek:
I’m into voluptuous women if you didn’t guess :BootyTime:

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Right but she’s a prostitute for the MC. He paid her, he’s a customer :BootyTime::BootyTime:
Correct me if he didn’t pay her, it’s been some time.
 
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Okay now that I started blathering about B-plots, help me make sure I’ve got the plot threads all straight. Which all have to be hidden under a spoiler blur, I suppose. Oh well.

First, the plots which aren’t LI-dependent, and even though the LIs are involved, the MC doesn’t have to be in a relationship with them to see them in the storyline. Generally they center on an individual.
  • 1. The MC joins the DIKs, and quickly takes a leadership role in the fraternity.
  • DIK antagonists:
    • 2. Dawe and the AAAs, who compete for the HOTs; they destroy the DIK mansion, and hope to win their upcoming competition.
    • 3. Someone who’s hacked the DIK laptop, planting a nude of Cathy (and possibly leaking a certain fucktape).
    • 4. Someone who’s put a spy camera in Derek’s room, who’s also blackmailing Chad.
    • 5. Someone who’s spreading the DIKs’ embarrassing Hell Week photos around campus.
    • 6. Tommy, the DIKs vice president who does whatever the fuck he wants.
    • 7. Vinny, the ex-DIK turned drug dealer.
    • 8. Quinn, who’s running a drugs and prostitution ring out of the HOT house. (Who could become a friend, if you fuck her instead of fucking with her.)
    • 9. Stephen, de facto B&R provost, shitty husband and father, secretly funding Quinn till he has a change of heart.
    • 10. Tybalt, ANO president and future Trump Administration adviser, who lusts for Jill.
    • 11. Chad, AAA president secretly fucking Troy; suspects the MC of blackmailing him and beats him, thus losing his presidency.
  • New friends:
    • 12. Josy—first as a coworker the MC’s crushing on, then as Maya’s secret girlfriend and new HOT.
    • 13. Derek, maggot brother, try-hard, and growing friend.
    • 14. Maya, who needs to escape the “student loan” impressed on her by her homophobic dad.
    • 15. Sage, who uses the MC to spy on her cheating boyfriend, but befriends him; and her issues with leading the HOTs.
    • 16. Arieth, the retarded girl on a quest to fuck every last frat boy (except the nerds), and her resulting pregnancy.
    • 17. Jill, naive rich girl who gets involved with the MC after Chad beats him; her concert and crippling stage fright; how Tybalt annoys her.
    • 18. Isabella, librarian, on the pretext of “just looking out for Jill,” befriends the MC and mentors him somewhat; her mysterious missing husband; plus someone in her English class is cheating.
    • 19. Cathy, horny but unfulfilled English teacher whose nude drives her to quit the school.
    • 20. Jade, Gender Studies teacher who wants to fuck the MC and cuck Stephen.
    • 21. Quinn’s whores in the HOTs—Riona, Camila, Sarah, Mel, and their issues.
    • 22. The Pink Rose strippers and their deals.
    • 23. Lily, student/stripper who starts buying from Quinn, provoking Vinny.
    • 24. Lynette—the MC’s mother’s last diary surfaces, and he learns how his parents met and fucked him into existence.
    • 25. Zoey, the MC’s high school fuckbuddy—rejoins his life, and realizes she loves him.
    • 26. Heather, Tommy’s constantly cuckolded girlfriend who’s had enough.
    • 27. Nora and the Chemistry class.
    • 28. Dwyane, the gym trainer who shows the MC how to be a better kickboxer.
Now the LI-dependent plotlines, which get added to the existing ones:
  • 8+. Quinn—dealing with her intimacy issues, and the MC’s growing knowledge of her criminal activities.
  • 12+. Josy—indulging Josy’s crush on the MC, finding herself; the fallout once her throuple with the MC and Maya is exposed.
  • 14+. Maya—learning she loves dick, and loves public sex; and the aforementioned fallout.
  • 15+. Sage—dealing with her anger… and kinks.
  • 17+. Jill—falling in love, getting her V-card punched, her difficult parents, her dead sister.
  • 18+. Bella—hiding the relationship, dealing with the age/maturity gap.
  • 19+. Cathy. (Mainly fucking.)
  • 20+. Jade—hiding the affair. (Unless you told the DIKs about it. Then you’re fucked.)
  • 21+. Riona—dealing with her immaturity.
  • 22+. Envy/Nicole—will it become serious, or just more wild stripper sex?
  • 22+. Madame Rose—will this ever come to anything, or is it just a meaningless financial drain?
  • 23+. Lily—will it become serious, or are they only “rolling”?
  • 27+. Nora. (Hitting it off—and fucking.)
Feel free to point out any I forgot, but do make sure it doesn’t easily fold into one of the above plotlines. Troy, for example, is part of Chad’s plotline; at least until the sparring turns into an actual friendship, if that ever happens.

And that’s a lot of plotlines to juggle. Most other AVNs just have one or two main plots, plus another for each LI.
 
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I'm still convinced the nerds and especially Sally had something to do with the covert cameras in the mansion. Because why keep writing in plenty of story around them and not have them affect any of the story concerning the MC? Wouldn't make much sense. The only value to the tri betas would be if they're part of something larger down the road of the story.

So I'm still expecting that reveal in the final chapters.
I wrote it a long time ago. What if the DIK Mansion, before the time of the DIKs, was the nerds' frat house.
 
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I wrote it a long time ago. What if the DIK Mansion, before the time of the DIKs, was the nerds' frat house.
Someone be it DIKs or nerds would have already told us if that was the case. No one has ever mentioned anything like it so we can easily write the theory off.
Also the nerds don’t need a house cause they wouldn’t throw parties (them nerds :KEK: :KEK:), that’s the whole purpose of a chapter house.
 
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I just want to find out what, what is happening between Zoey and the MC that we don't know yet. Personally, I don't hate Zoey at all. In fact, I always decide that the MC isn't mad at Zoey. I have no problem with Zoey remaining or becoming a friend of the MC, whichever way you want to look at it. Friend okay, but no more.
Same. I don't mind the friendship but it won't go any further in any of my playthroughs.

For me it's mainly about how late a character comes in to the game. Make all these connections to characters and as the player you develop a fav pretty quick so it doesn't matter if the old fling was the best thing to ever happen to the MC, if that's all off screen prior to the game starting and then sorta kinda shown after god knows how many updates, I just don't give a shit at that point lol.
 
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I’ll add, it’s only stupid not following your dreams, even if they lead you away from the important people in your life. It’s clear Zoe’s dream was stronger than her attraction to the MC, but it’s wrong to hold her to a standard of being loyal to him no matter what, cause that would make for a fake relationship where she tries to make him happy all the time and leads only to resentment further down the road.
It’s a shame Zoe didn’t fulfill her dream and now has little to show up for, but that doesn’t invalidate that she tried or the experience she gained.
She’s still the same person the MC loved and it doesn’t matter whether he loves her anymore or not. All that matters is that he still cares about her. Whether it leads to friendship or romance is gonna be up to us.
Bullshit! It is stupid to follow your dream if it's a stupid dream. Zoey had never surfed in her life, didn't know the first thing about it, had no idea how to make a living from it and promptly blew every dollar she had trying to follow it. It's like waking up one day and deciding you want to become an Olympic gymnist, despite the fact that you are 37 and a stranger to exercise.

That's not even mentioning that she thoughtlessly ran away from everybody in her life that cared for her.
You are both right and wrong.

Was it a stupid dream of Zoey's?
No, not actually. She is only 19 years old and relatively athletic. So her dream wasn't stupid.

Is it stupid not to follow your dreams?
No is not if you think beforehand about what you could lose and therefore give up or postpone a dream.

I think, as with many things, it depends on the right time. Of course, at the age of 37, the time is over, no question. But at 20 years old, the timing would have been perfect for Zoey. But at 19 years old, with “home blindness” and grief, the time was too early. Zoey just wanted to get away as quickly as possible and took the first possible opportunity to make her dream come true.

When would have been the right moment?
If only Zoey had waited another year. Zoey's family and friends, including the MC and Neil, would have supported and helped Zoey through her grief. With the help of the MC, Zoey could have completed her high school at home, together with the MC. The MC would then probably have gone to Miami with Zoey, where Zoey could have made her dream come true and the MC would have attended college there.

But none of that matters because you can't change the past, as the MC mentioned to Zoey in EP10. You can only learn from the past and live with it.

Is Zoey still the same person the MC loved?
No, she isn't anymore and it would be surprising if she were. Both Zoey and the MC realize that they have changed. Zoey now has tattoos and quite a few nipple piercings, she no longer smokes, drinks cocktails with umbrellas and has become a little softer. The MC has also changed. He now has a lot of friends, can have a lot of girls, now parties and drinks, confronts people and has at least one dream of his come true. The college.

But you can't change the past and this history is written. What will be the future tomorrow will be the past in two days. Each player has to find out for themselves how they want to deal with Zoey in the future. Yours truly will try to keep Zoey as a friend because she has been punished enough by her past. But there will be no romantic future together with my MC.
 

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She’s young and dumb as they say and didn’t know any better. Sometimes you learn life’s lessons the hard way.
We all can agree on that and move on, otherwise we’ll beat ourselves into a corner.

I definitely agree that Quinn, even though she’s my girl is a pimp and a prostitute :BootyTime:
You only learn life's lesson's when there are consequences, and there are no consequences for Zoey. She just ran home to Mommy. Throw another windfall her way and she will do exactly the same.
 
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You only learn life's lesson's when there are consequences, and there are no consequences for Zoey. She just ran home to Mommy. Throw another windfall her way and she will do exactly the same.
well there are some consequences, she at least realized she threw away a good relationship with the MC
 
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Someone be it DIKs or nerds would have already told us if that was the case. No one has ever mentioned anything like it so we can easily write the theory off.
Also the nerds don’t need a house cause they wouldn’t throw parties (them nerds :KEK: :KEK:), that’s the whole purpose of a chapter house.
no one mentioned Sage's last name also, I feel we are past the point where common sense excludes plot twists.
 
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