VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[DIKHammer]

Its a delicate balance but an update that takes over a year is not acceptable either.

 

[Crusader of Romance]

Its a delicate balance but an update that takes over a year is not acceptable either.

Then what story should he cut? What paths and side girls would people accept him cutting? Because that's what takes time. Would people have been happier without any side girl paths and a quicker release? Quinn's exclusive scenes took at least a month to make in Episode 10, maybe he should have cut that? How about cutting Nora, Nicole, Riona, Lily? That would have saved time.
People want him to release the same path-filled high-quality game, but faster than possible. They want factory processed food with the quality of a restaurant.

 

[DIKHammer]

Then what story should he cut? What paths and side girls would people accept him cutting? Because that's what takes time. Would people have been happier without any side girl paths and a quicker release? Quinn's exclusive scenes took at least a month to make in Episode 10, maybe he should have cut that? How about cutting Nora, Nicole, Riona, Lily? That would have saved time.
People want him to release the same path-filled high-quality game, but faster than possible. They want factory processed food with the quality of a restaurant.

If he was still at 30 FPS then it would have been much faster.

Rio might not have much appearance in this update if DPC decides to wait to E12 to wrap that up.

Nora already broke up with MC how much more of here is there gonna be? Might be none

Intertwined has tons of branches yet V12 was early this year and V13 was later this year. Sure a few girls didn't get a ton of content but in some episodes of BAD some girls didn't get much content either

Or you know get rid of Madame Rose which everyone seems to hate and free up some time

 

[TuckeredOut]

243 Woooo

 

[FreeRangeEgg]

If anyone has an update on how to progress in the zoey branch - quote me haha

 

[Crusader of Romance]

If he was still at 30 FPS then it would have been much faster.

How? He still isn't finished with the manual work, so how would getting the animations done faster make any difference? It would only have ment that they were finished much sooner than the game was and the computers just standing there doing nothing for months.

Rio might not have much appearance in this update if DPC decides to wait to E12 to wrap that up.

Nora already broke up with MC how much more of here is there gonna be? Might be none

OK, so cut Riona and Nora from the game. I'm sure that would have made people happy.

Intertwined has tons of branches yet V12 was early this year and V13 was later this year. Sure a few girls didn't get a ton of content but in some episodes of BAD some girls didn't get much content either

And you consider it to be a much superior game to BaDIK? I don't agree, but fair enough.
Creating content takes time. 5 main LIs and several side girls take time. He tried to only concentrate on a couple of main girls per episode during season 2 and people were not happy about that. So let's say, to shorten time, he cut down on Maya, Josy and Quinn from Episode 11 and then Bella, Jill and Sage from Episode 12, to release it a couple of months earlier. Would that make everybody happy?

Or you know get rid of Madame Rose which everyone seems to hate and free up some time

Madame Rose content so far takes 1-4 days to make.

People want him to cut the release time basically in half. Cutting small content won't do much. He needs to cut either a lot of characters or a couple of major ones.
So maybe having an Others path was a bad idea, maybe he should have just kept the 5 main girls.

 

[MightbeSomeone]

If eps are getting so large he could also expand the number of eps to make and cut them in half so instead what looks like christmas and new years split it into a smaller eps could do eps #a for christmas and eps #b for the. New years panty party and then get the fans an update at 6-8 months. Just a thought

 

[Elduriel]

If eps are getting so large he could also expand the number of eps to make and cut them in half so instead what looks like christmas and new years split it into a smaller eps could do eps 13a and eps 13b and get the fans an update at 6-8 months. Just a thought

nah, he won't do it. Too much of a perfectionist to even consider something like that. And he doesn't have to publish content more frequently, which is the main thing why he won't do it, he is doing just fine financially.

 

[MightbeSomeone]

And I do pateron for badik, intertwined and u4ia. All are solid avns, but each have different strengths. In each of the last updates the fans complained that some girls
Got more content than others….

 

[El_Magnifico]

Quinn's exclusive scenes took at least a month to make in Episode 10,

Madame Rose content so far takes 1-4 days to make.

Excuse me but how do you know that ?

 

[Steuan]

Oh, of course, that famous "badass" Lily.
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She looks so confident, so assertive. Obviously, she was dealing with something worse.
I'm afraid to even imagine what.
Someone bad could have said a lot about it. Someone could, but not me, of course.
But why did she end up leaving the room?
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Where did her intensity go ?
Did the words of the school bully affect her after all?

She left the room with Cammy because of the very same reason: to protect Mona and Cammy.

Besides she didn't leave the place completely, you know...waited for Quinn at the door alone. She listened to what was being said inside the room. She later found out that Quinn's a drug-dealer... and you know the rest.

Unlike you I think Quinn and Lily respect each other a lot. They have a very mutual seller-buyer relationship. Lily buys cheap weed from her, and so Quinn makes more money in this way. Because Lily and her friends were Vinny's customers, weren't they?

 

[Crusader of Romance]

If eps are getting so large he could also expand the number of eps to make and cut them in half so instead what looks like christmas and new years split it into a smaller eps could do eps 13a and eps 13b and get the fans an update at 6-8 months. Just a thought

True, he could do that. It would mean that some would have to wait longer than others for their girls' content. It would also mean the overall game would take longer to finish developing since he would have to treat every part as a separate episode meaning more work. Instead of the game being done in 8 years, it might be done in 12 years, but with content released more often.
He might do something like that with the next season, who knows. The reason he says he hasn't is that he doesn't want to drag out on the game any more than he already is because he wants to be done so he can do something else. But if season 4 will be a different type of season, maybe it will be easier to do that. Or maybe the way he planned season 4 means they will be shorter over all. From the way he talks about it, that season 4 wson't be a normal season and might not even have 4 episodes, it could be possible.

 

[scarp1]

If eps are getting so large he could also expand the number of eps to make and cut them in half so instead what looks like christmas and new years split it into a smaller eps could do eps #a for christmas and eps #b for the. New years panty party and then get the fans an update at 6-8 months. Just a thought

Trouble with making episodes smaller certain branches will be waiting for ages still. Doubt he can fit parts of all branches in one smaller episode. So say a Sage path is released the next Sage path with probably be longer than a year away because he will need to release other branches in smaller releases. Plus having just one or two paths available each release tend to struggle to tell decent storylines on a whole for the game.
Yes a year is a long wait but generally the update is huge, there isn't many problems with it and you can carry on where you left off which is pretty rare for most games

 

[KАRАMBA]

Lily buys cheap weed from her, and so Quinn makes more money in this way. Because Lily and her friends were Vinny's customers, weren't they?

Oh, yes, they were.
And now because of this, Quinn is in trouble, or rather, real shit, which will cost her dearly.
Much more than Lily's fucking 500 bucks

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Totally agreed.

There was absolutely no need for her to drop out of college. I mean yeah Quinn was threatening her, and she was scared.

You know... she thought they were going to call her as whore or such on campus.

But I think LILY would definitely protect Mona. Lets remember this scene...

EP6, Quinn comes to confront Mona and tells LILY and Camila to leave the room.

LILY: "No. We're staying."

Besides Maya slapping Quinn in anger... LILY is the only other girl who's actually standing up to Quinn... and with the confidence of someone who, obviously, dealt with way worst than a teenage college bully.

I really love her intensity there.

What I like about Lily is that she is not afraid of Quinn at all. The girls in HOTs know her toxic character and reputation prefering not to mess with her. Lily is here as a pledge and she doesn't care about Quinn's authority. I can't say about her exact motives, is she doing this for herself, to gain weight in the HOTs or was really protecting Mona, her motivation and what is in her head is not entirely clear to me - but it was powerful.
Quinn was uncomfortable when some pledge show her place, openly played with her and said that she doesn't care about anything at all and she is here because Tommy asked her to (this is of course not true, she was here looking for a drug supplier)



Lily is smart, has leadership qualities and is quickly gaining weight in HOTs - Sage puts her in charge of organizing parties instead of Quinn. I like Quinn, but Lily as a leader and successor to Sage would be much better for HOTs. If not for one small "but" - this game of king and queen turned me off a little, otherwise she would be much higher for me.

 

[diolo]

If I was the developer for this game you would have to wait three years for each episode ... As much money as the boy earns, who's in a hurry?

 

[MightbeSomeone]

I understand that and yes I think eps 4 will begin to get smaller eps as stories play out.
For example the Maya store is going to be very reduced , quinn sounds like she may run away and disappear if things go much worse for her ect. There are clear paths to start ending(limit) some of the paths from the main story and allow limited scenes.
Hell the last eps could just be an ending similar to. Acting lessons with the MC talking to his ending LI about the college events….

 

[MightbeSomeone]

If I was the developer for this game you would have to wait three years for each episode ... As much money as the boy earns, who's in a hurry?

40-80k a month - subtract fees and taxes and he is still doing really well. And great for him. Wish I had the talent to do what he is doing

 

[Crusader of Romance]

Excuse me but how do you know that ?

Quinn, I must admit I don't know. That was a rough guess based on what he has said about how long it takes to create. I could be wrong, it could be shorter or longer.
But with Madame Rose, he has specifically mentioned how long it takes and how the whole point of her was quick and easy content to create that took little time. 1-4 days, including rendering animations. The posing takes a few hours.
Posing all animations for Episode 11 takes about 11 weeks on average, split up during the whole development, so it's a very short part of it.

 

[Crusader of Romance]

Since Dpc Simps are out for Full force :

All mighty DPC

A Developer with 10% of the support of all mighty dpc has

Yeah yeah, Being a DIK sucks, all other games rule. You made your point.