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NonyaBusinezz

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Personally i am hoping that starting next season he'll adept to releasing episodes on steam as well, it means a yearly income instaid of a 4-5 year income
I ain't defending him but he already has 14k subs on patreon, yearly doesn't matter.
Dude makes more than most ppl do monthly
 

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If I remember correctly, editing saves will trigger DPC's failsafes in the long run. Not just modding. If I'm correct, I'm not interested in dealing with that over time. And besides, I'll only be replaying from episode 7 about 3 times. Not exactly a second job, just a bit tedious. But I really appreciate your advice and will consider something like that for other prospects if your suggestion ends up proving consequence-free.
DPC constantly checks with each new update for some variables that some mods/cheats writes into the saves/and/or persistent file. Editing the save and then resaving it inside the game doesn't do anything like that, nor adds any (new) variables to check on later. I have such one save just for tests and experiments. I modified it several times, resaved, then edited again, and so on. It doesn't crash on "Jacob scene" in EP9, nor in Helen scene in EP10. And I'm 99.99% sure it will pass any checks in future episodes. Since you not adding any variables that are not exist in the original game or to be more correct, the ones, DPC usually checks for, you're safe.

- give it a try

Just edit the save file in the EP7 or EP8 (after the Patrick scene) by editing the particular variable and then load/resave it and play the game till the EP10 end - you'll not get any troubles. I did it already, so you can check it by yourself. Don't exxagerate DPC's talents and programming skills. He spoils easy life for cheat/mods users, but this happens for a long-known and obvious reason - they store their variables and "tags" where they can be checked. That's about it.

Another option - you can use the , which never writes any variables or stuff into the game saves or persistent file. And, btw, you can also use this mod to alter any variable w/o need to use the save editor. Edit variable and resave the game... The only cons of this method - you probably will not be able to edit bios and other stuff. So, while I edit my saves, I also modify bios records to correct state. To get a perfect result and to avoid confusing myself.
 

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I ain't defending him but he already has 14k subs on patreon, yearly doesn't matter.
Dude makes more than most ppl do monthly
You should tell that to other companies. im sure several companies made enough money 20 years ago and didnt have to change anything. yet they still desided, hey we need more money, lets get people buy our games and make them pay a monthly contribution so they can play bought games/expansions.

As a wise woman once said. What do all men in power want? More power!
 
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Maccabbee

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You should tell that to other companies. im sure several companies made enough money 20 years ago and didnt have to change anything. yet they still desided, hey we need more money, lets get people buy our games and make them pay a monthly contribution so they can play bought games/expansions.

As a wise woman once said. What do all men in power want? More power!
You're talking about Microsoft, aren't you? Microsoft Office vs. Microsoft 365.
 
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NonyaBusinezz

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You should tell that to other companies. im sure several companies made enough money 20 years ago and didnt have to change anything. yet they still desided, hey we need more money, lets get people buy our games and make them pay a monthly contribution so they can play bought games/expansions.

As a wise woman once said. What do all men in power want? More power!
Uhh.. k?

Not sure where this rant came from. Also to say only men are money/power hungry, lol.
 

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DPC constantly checks with each new update for some variables that some mods/cheats writes into the saves/and/or persistent file. Editing the save and then resaving it inside the game doesn't do anything like that, nor adds any (new) variables to check on later. I have such one save just for tests and experiments. I modified it several times, resaved, then edited again, and so on. It doesn't crash on "Jacob scene" in EP9, nor in Helen scene in EP10. And I'm 99.99% sure it will pass any checks in future episodes. Since you not adding any variables that are not exist in the original game or to be more correct, the ones, DPC usually checks for, you're safe.

- give it a try

Just edit the save file in the EP7 or EP8 (after the Patrick scene) by editing the particular variable and then load/resave it and play the game till the EP10 end - you'll not get any troubles. I did it already, so you can check it by yourself. Don't exxagerate DPC's talents and programming skills. He spoils easy life for cheat/mods users, but this happens for a long-known and obvious reason - they store their variables and "tags" where they can be checked. That's about it.

Another option - you can use the , which never writes any variables or stuff into the game saves or persistent file. And, btw, you can also use this mod to alter any variable w/o need to use the save editor. Edit variable and resave the game... The only cons of this method - you probably will not be able to edit bios and other stuff. So, while I edit my saves, I also modify bios records to correct state. To get a perfect result and to avoid confusing myself.
Yes. That's what I wanted to say, Scrappy mod. I mixed up things because I don't use any. But that's it, and it's very easy to override. As you said, to make the game "crash" (actually, it's just a "quit"), DPC has to add a conditional to the code. In Scrappy's mod case, it was this (I guess you know all this because I think you make mods yourself, but I'm writing for everyone):

Python:
if persistent.mod_wtenabled != None:
    $ renpy.quit()
So, you can just type in the console "$ persistent.mod_wtenabled == None" and the game won't crash.

How to find it? Just search the code for "renpy.quit()" and you'll know every instance and variable checked to make the game "crash" (and, if you miss one and the game "crashes," you'll know there will be a command like that in the part the game terminated.



Indeed, it is. See ZenoMod answer above confirming it.
Thanks a lot for your help guys. I'll give these suggestions a look through. I'm not particularly savvy with code or things of that nature, so your explanations are a big help! If all goes to worse, I can always go back to Plan A and brute force my saves.
 
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