Yellowie The Goldie

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Gentlemen, any of you got any idea when there will be official guide? It's hard to find something here because there is daily more than 10 pages...Thanks
Wait a week and a day or two. It always releases around 2 weeks after the episode.

And if the official one isn't, then the fan one will be at least.
 

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Im not sure, in the first talk between Jill and Bella, (when Bella mentions that MC is WAY BETTER than tybalt no matter how shit you behave so far lol), Jill didnt really seemed like she even disliked tybalt.

Even if tybalt just "upped his game" afterwards, she was still oblivious to him being a shitbag at this point which is ... well ... questionable.
Before Tremolo, Jill was just a prep who mostly kept to herself, with Bella ( and possibly Bianca) as her only real friend. As a Royce, I imagine she was intimidating enough that nobody below her social level even dared approach her. So someone like Tybalt, who was likely kissing her ass, could quickly get into her blind spot until someone like Tremolo exposed him for the ass he was. Either that or she tolerated him because they lived in the same house, and it was easier to ignore until she had no other choice.
 
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Having Sage as a friend will be great for Jill, Bella is overprotective, but with Sage she will learn real world better.
I don't think Bella is overprotective, she probably just sees Jill like the daughter or younger sister she never had. Yes she's protective, but imo not overly so.
She even admits in episode 9 that in her eyes Jill should've gone to parties like the DIKs "ages ago".
Yeah i disagree too, i would consider bella very normal in this regard, its just that jill behaves utterly moronic at times which forces bella to act lmao

I mean of course bella doubts jill's ability to judge peoples characters, she was hanging out with tybalt without realising what kind of shitface he is the whole time before tremolo arrived
Well, Bella does come off as overprotective in ep 1. She chases away the MC for sitting with Jill at the library. Then Bella wants to have dinner with the MC to vet him before "allowing him" to socialize with Jill. As we progress through the game, she's not as protective. She starts to ease up a bit after she has lunch with the MC and tells Jill can be friends or more with him. I would consider the doubles tennis scene to be the right amount of protectiveness because it's Tybalt. Then once Jill "finds her voice" after Tybalt tries to propose, Bella probably doesn't feel the need to be as protective.
 

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Hmm, call me darkwencrazy but I think I’d put Josy over Jill anyday
Josy constantly has to change up her look, particularly her hair as if she's chasing trends. She is insecure about her own body, takes what some asshole said about her being 'shallow' too close to her heart. It's for those reasons that I personally get pulled away from her. Sure she has a major crush on MC but it can go both ways or just a single one depending on your choice.

Jill on the other hand always looks consistent. She wears nice preppy clothes sure, but you never see her try too hard and she's comfortable in her own skin despite being more demure. The way she wears her hair is always consistent too. She doesn't care about chasing trends and simply wears things like she normally does.

Just my opinion ofc, but that's that.
 
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Chillout1984

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Well, Bella does come off as overprotective in ep 1. She chases away the MC for sitting with Jill at the library. Then Bella wants to have dinner with the MC to vet him before "allowing him" to socialize with Jill. As we progress through the game, she's not as protective. She starts to ease up a bit after she has lunch with the MC and tells Jill can be friends or more with him. I would consider the doubles tennis scene to be the right amount of protectiveness because it's Tybalt. Then once Jill "finds her voice" after Tybalt tries to propose, Bella probably doesn't feel the need to be as protective.
It's not weird she's pretty wary and untrusty about MC at that point in the story. Shortly before that she found MC naked on the campus grounds. You don't need to be overprotective to chase someone like that away from your best/good friend.
 
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It's not weird she's pretty wary and untrusty about MC at that point in the story. Shortly before that she found MC naked on the campus grounds. You don't need to be overprotective to chase someone like that away from your best/good friend.
Not to mention she finds out that MC got bullied by the alphas after Jill told her that. And on that day where she wants to give MC a chance to give her the sales pitch...He shows up hammered and falls on the ground.

Like let's be fair, that's one hell of a way to burn bridges if Isabella wasn't as patient as she was lol
 

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Not to mention she finds out that MC got bullied by the alphas after Jill told her that. And on that day where she wants to give MC a chance to give her the sales pitch...He shows up hammered and falls on the ground.

Like let's be fair, that's one hell of a way to burn bridges if Isabella wasn't as patient as she was lol
Also let's not forget that other than our successful playthroughs there are alternate timelines of an MC that maybe isn't best for Jill. So her suspicion and guard are totally valid.
 

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There was a post with a list of solved and unsolved questions/plots in the game.
Could you please remind me the name of it or keywords to find?
 

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does anybody choose to play the concert on the non jill/bella paths?
I'm Sage route and picked it because it felt more in character with how the MC is. He even mentions in some of the dialog just trains to keep in shape and for self defense. Music is what he's been into this whole time, so it makes sense. Plus figure he mostly got more familiar with Sage due to his guitar getting stolen and teaches her how to play in a few scenes.
 

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i mean so would i, they both lose points for not having tattoos but id pick Josy because, and this might be heresy on this site, i find large breasts unattractive
So I take it you really like Arieth (at least based on her looks)? Her breats are among the more smaller ones in the game and has 2 pretty big tattoos on her arms (can't remember if she has any on her back).
 

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Also let's not forget that other than our successful playthroughs there are alternate timelines of an MC that maybe isn't best for Jill. So her suspicion and guard are totally valid.
The MC that seeks out trouble, proceeds to fight, do drugs, be a DIK and bully, thief among other bad things...?

Yeah...The Massive DIK alternate timeline where MC is almost always at odds with Isabella/Jill is something that Bella would probably want to help avoid.
 

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Sorry for the delay, there was a lot to cover. But let's get to it and talk about Episode 11. I can't call it a shitshow because the material is by no means shit, but man this was a mess of discordant ideas. It starts with Riona being literally tortured (off screen, thankfully), then spends the bulk of its runtime with the MC gunning for the stupidest college antics he can manage - except when he pontificates on his role in destroying Sage's family (if applicable). Then we get a cliffhanger that interrupts a medical crisis to tease us with the reveal of Bella's Secret Room(tm) one last time.

Seriously, what are we supposed to make of that progression? I don't think this game has any idea what it's supposed to *BE*. It wants to have its cake and eat it too, but it lacks the discipline to pull that off. The game is replete with sexy porn skits, but they are constantly being upstaged the Oscar-bait drama. Meanwhile the dramatic weight is all sizzle no steak because the game is 90% sexy filler by volume. The game talks about big things, but nothing actually happens until the cliffhanger, and experience has shown us the revelations will be underplayed in the subsequent episode. There are a few paths that hang together better, which helps a bit, yet even in these paths the MC mostly killing time. Things happen to him far more than he causes them to happen - and that's despite the MC making concerted effort to take action this time around!

I think this game has a fundamentally flawed idea of what it means to branch in a game. The update, as has become typical for BaDIK, is *colossal* - but so many of the branches are cosmetic rather than being a consistent tool for role-playing or content filtering. The choices we make are constantly being reflected back at us, but the scope of those reflections is bizarrely myopic. The big party in this update, for example, is specifically designed by the MC to be what Tommy would want as a sort of pick me up; the fact that the MC can specifically state disapproval of Tommy's lifestyle somehow does not interfere with his ability to get the update's groove on. Later on, the MC can potentially ditch said party to hang out with the main LIs (indeed, he'll do so automatically in some cases), but only after he gets a sexy pic from them. They react as if that's a sweet thing for him to do, even though needing to host the party was his reason for not being there in the first place. And all of this regardless of the MC's affinity, mind you! It feels like the game muddled its metaphor halfway through.

It doesn't seem to have occurred to Dr. Pink Cake that giving us the option to join either party from the start might have been both simpler and more meaningful branching than the labyrinthine system he constructed to blend the two together behind the scenes. As a result, the game feels EXTREMELY uneven: when DPC's view of the MC and his motivations line up with your own, the game can be tremendously satisfying; when those views diverge, it can be confusing and infuriating.

All of this is my appropriately longwinded way of saying that while I don't think Episode 11 is a bad update, I didn’t enjoy it much and I have every reason to believe that trend will continue. The good parts - for me, anyway - are outweighed out by the sheer mass of glitzy filler that just does not satisfy. If your vision aligns more with DPC's than mine, odds are you'll enjoy this update more than I did, though I dare say you'll still be left with some headscratching moments.

But let's get down to brass tacks, which means we should move the rest of this discussion to spoilers.
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There's no question that my distaste for the content on the Maya/Josy branch colors my view of the episode, but I still think there are a lot of problems with the basic layout of the story and the time spent on different branches. The game is trying to do much at once, and some of the threads don't mix well with others. On top of that, a lot of the plot points and LI development feel stagnant despite the mountain of glitz surrounding them. Episode 10 managed to restore a little of my enthusiasm for the game, this one knocked it right back down. I think we're going to have to wait for Season 4 for any real development. :(

tl;dr A tonally incoherent episode that is either taking itself way too seriously or not nearly seriously enough. We do finally get some answers and there are fun scenes, but it feels like everything important has been left for the next episode to develop - with no guarantee it will.
i feel the same way and agree with lot of your points but i dont think i would ever be able to sit down and properly put my feelings in words the way you did (i can make excuse of English not being my first language but that is only a part of the reason).
add to your distaste for chapter the fact that i am hardcore Riona fan and you can understand how much i hate this chapter given all things considered.
All the pay-offs were lackluster or poorly written, all the build up was disappointing, most of the plotpoints either go nowhere or are forgotten, pushed aside with little to no relevance... its just poorly executed and to add salt on the wound we had to wait over a year for this slop. 1/10 chapter for anyone playing the game for story, and probably 7/10 for those who only care for sex scenes cause in the vacuum every sex scene seems okay. i only detest most of them because of the narrative behind them.
and i am not going to pretend i seen every line of the text nor that i unlocked every sex scene, but in my 15+ playthroughs i was always more disappointed then satisfied with the outcome of the stories even during sex scenes
Wait, what? Even on hard mode I had a blast doing those fights. They were really, really fun. It was quite enjoyable for me.

It wasn't so hard I couldn't do it, but it wasn't that easy either...especially since it's pointed out that MC isn't a good fighter. He can be a menace in a brawl with his "little bit of everything" style of martial arts that his dad taught him, but fighting against a guy that's jacked up like Caleb? Nah bro, no winning without serious training and exercising.

Turning MC into a badass fighter for a Massive DIK run is something I would love ngl.
i enjoyed brawler in season 1, once it came back and reworked it became too much of a chore, or maybe i am just too tired of all the mini games. doing them once is fine, but being forced to do them all every time you choose new playthrough is tedious and time consuming. all this in a game where realistically its impossible to see more than 50% of all content without 5 playthroughs and you have unbearable grind at your hands, not to mention all the randomization in later minigames makes it that much more tedious and annoying. at least in season 1 i can memorize the words i need to rapidfire type out, or i can memorize the order in which i need to answer math tests. science test was fun first 20 times or so, now i would rather fail it on purpose than bother with it all over again and i feel the same for brawler. honestly in all my 15+ playthroughs of chapter 11 i only did unavoidable fight with chads boyfriend and on ocasion i would do a fight for 2$ when i really need it.
not to mention you can easily get through game without playing any minigames for money unless your MC is manwhore who needs money for sex
 

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in a universe where she didn't have crabs and wasn't pregnant I'd hit that :LOL:
If Arieth didn't mention she doesn't get her period anymore, I wouldn't have been surprised that the pregnancy test belonged to someone else and that Arieth got a positive result on a COVID test instead while thiking it's a pregnancy test xD
 
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