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VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

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Derek in a Bush

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Anyone figured out that stupid fucking YouTube video yet, I’ve yet to update my notes on it, what I got from it was some kind of weird poem but I’m really reaching at this point :Kappa:
 
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Meh, I've never suscribed to this way of thinking, everybody likes certain characters due to different reasons and everybody wants the characters they like the most to be more on the spotlight than others, and for me at least, it's not just about looks.

Key example, Lily. At first I really did not care for her at all. She might've been my second favorite of the Pink Rose girls (model wise right after Nicole) but that was about it.
I wasn't interested in her as a possible LI or lewd scenes with her at all since we've already had so many girls.

But then, DPC added the possibilty of having fun with her without it being transactional like other side girls depending on affinity and I thought: "Intersting, maybe he plans something for her" and decided to invest in getting her scenes. Then we've got the whole rolling stuff and the why of her behaviour in EP10 and finally the BIG payoff this episode and now pretty much everybody loves her or at least like her. (Hell some people even now have her as one of their favourites right to the most consistently popular main girl wich is Sage).

It takes time, and several scenes for the player to get invested with girls the story doesn't focus on. Did anybody really care for Sally in the first season at all ? Probably not, but after having so many moments between her and MC and the development of their realtionship this very episode (With Sally complementing him for the first time and them possibly making out) a lot of players who liked her model and/or personality want to interact more with her.

"Cinderella" is the same. She was introduced just as an unkown girl at the start of season 3 and now due to DPC making her care about MC' behaviour at the party and their interactions with each other in the case the MC chooses not to fool around too much at the party she is gradually becoming more interested in the MC and by consequence. The playerbase is getting more intested in her.
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This is the inherent problem with AVNs. Just throw a bunch of body types and personalities and someone will like something. Instead of a harem, DPC did a branching path narrative.

The problem is: you can't combine the two. Or, well. It's too big, and not much focus.

Branching narrative allows the player to figure out what they want, and allows the narrative to focus on that path. Like Leap of Faith.
Harem or normal AVNs where the MC does everyone is just appeasing everyone. Like...most AVNs.

With a narrative focused story, you need to keep it clean and intense. The Other's path tries to give you both of this, and causes dev time and content, and paths to get out of hand. Stories need to reflect the protagonist/antagonist dynamic, that is, all other characters should reflect and be permutations of their persona or theme. Contrasts can sometimes work too for rivalry on antagonism. Romance genres need to treat some of these relationships as plots unto themselves, so the relationship is the conflict, or else we just have slice of life.

For example:
MC -- A bullied, poor, motherless self-taught martial artist and guitarist into engineering with a dad who loves him. With a best friend Derek.

Main Path:
Bella
-A gorgeous teacher, neglected wife, with a hole in her heart, and a wild past who gets to live again
-You treat her well, help each other, share shenanigans with Derek. You're not a creep. Coincidentally, you know her favourite song. It starts sexual through drunken shenanigans. You do not share her academic or gym interests.

Jill
-A shy, caring, entitled girl, with a tragic family, pursued by a prick, who had a sister just like you
-You treat her well, save her several times, she thinks it's destiny, and she shares your musical skill, but not interests.

Sage
-An outgoing party girl with personal and family problems who needs affection
-You treat her well, help her, teach her your martial arts and music, solve her personal problem, and find her a few family

Maya
-A sweet girl who likes you, with family and personal problems. Your best friend's sister.
-You treat her well and deal with her family problems (i.e. her dad.) Related to Derek and Josy.

Josy
-A sweet girl who loves you, with personal problems. Shes likes fashion and blogging. She wants to join a gym with you.
-You treat her well

Zoey
-Your old best friend and tomboy lover who shared a lot with you, returns after she realizes her feelings for you
-You can accept or reject her feelings

Others:
Nora
-A gorgeous teacher who wants a family, but isn't going to break the rules. You share her academic and gym interests. Found through a dating app.
-You accept her and she breaks it off for professional reasons

Quinn
-An outgoing party girl who grew up poor, with personal and family problems, who needs help
-You accept her and she confides in you. You try to help her.

Lily
-An outgoing party girl and stripper who was bullied and chose to change, leaving her family
-You accept her and she confides in you, and help her break out of her self-imposed reality, just a little

Nicole
-An outgoing party girl and stripper who wants a relationship
-You treat her well

Riona
-An outgoing party girl who grew up poor, with personal and financial problems. She's unattached, likes drugs, and gaming.
-You help her with her personal and financial problems

Sally
-A tsundere, ignorant, know-it-all
-You do a science report together (she's not into science, she's just your lab partner)

Many of the Other girls are redundant and empty to even mention, Sally just being the "next up"; even Tara is just a nice and pretty girl, but not much there.

It's already pretty loaded, and pretty thin in terms of what interests attract and maintain others together.
We'll have to now:
-Give Nicole her time to be fleshed out, like Lily
-Ditto for Nora, since she is the choice between her and Nicole
-Riona desperately needs to be fleshed out
-Sally is just...there

Up in the air if they're now going to give Tara and Tiffani more screen time, or give Felicia, Charlotte, Leanne, Mia, Erin a Side girl status. The intention is to give Cinderella more, since she's been teased, and it just gets bigger and bigger for the sake of Others. Then we have to think of the Rose girls, Heather, Madame content, Zoey catchup content...I'm assuming Melanie and Sarah still...Elena...

Then the narrative has to deal with all the main plot stuff with Quinn, the frats, and all the Others content, which would include even more Others.

And with adding a supposed new Main Path/Main Girl with Zoey, there's now 8.
  1. Bella
  2. Jill
  3. Sage
  4. Maya
  5. Josy
  6. M&J
  7. Zoey
  8. Others
So Others is going to be one big mess of random bodies and personas for the sake of Others, without a consistent theme or persona matching the main characters, to compare or contrast, or get to develop. Zoey does have the potential to develop anywhere, since she has now actualized her feelings and can explore what's next. Quinn's development is main plot stuff, and perhaps your path with her would impact that, so it's basically a 9th MP.

Everyone on Others is either Quinn, or a Mel and Sarah persona.
 
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Gonzo215 said:
I don’t really think Sally will become an SG (or maybe she will, depending on her interactions), but I do think she’ll be important in exposing the nerds. I can hardly imagine the MC figuring out on his own who’s sending the letters. And along the way, he just happens to fall naked onto Sally.
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now that we know Magnar is behind the attacks on the DIKs and the other loser frats, it would be sweet to have mc railing Sally in her dorm room and have Magnar see it and get all whiney but at the same time realize he likes being a cuck. and of course, having Sally help the mc expose Magnar and his little cadre of losers would be icing on the cake.
 
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robrize2169 said:
now that we know Magnar is behind the attacks on the DIKs and the other loser frats, it would be sweet to have mc railing Sally in her dorm room and have Magnar see it and get all whiney but at the same time realize he likes being a cuck. and of course, having Sally help the mc expose Magnar and his little cadre of losers would be icing on the cake.
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I hope we get to beat the shit out of Magnar and fuck Sally on top of his unconscious body.
 
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Honestly, the endless duplicate posts from people using mods since the update went out actually makes me understand DPC's rationale to put in the kill command more than ever.

Imagine having to deal with these people posting endless bug reports that were in fact caused by their mods as being problems caused by the game.
 
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jd8097619 said:
Honestly, the endless duplicate posts from people using mods since the update went out actually makes me understand DPC's rationale to put in the kill command more than ever.

Imagine having to deal with these people posting endless bug reports that were in fact caused by their mods as being problems caused by the game.
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Personally I don't see why they use mods except to cheat, I stopped using mods years ago after all the bollocks on the saves being screwed up and having to start the game over again for all my routes, and the main reason for using the mods for me in the first place was for the mini games, so I found a simple solution to that, play with mini games turned off.
 
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TomUK said:
Personally I don't see why they use mods except to cheat, I stopped using mods years ago after all the bollocks on the saves being screwed up and having to start the game over again for all my routes, and the main reason for using the mods for me in the first place was for the mini games, so I found a simple solution to that, play with mini games turned off.
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Simply to make it easier on themselves. If it wasn't for that, there'd be a lot less demand for mods. For this game, for instance, you can view tasks in a couple of clicks by using the phone, or a mod could have them on display for you at all times. You can have a mod to point out when there's money or a special render on screen. A mod can give you more information on options, to help you pick which of two (or more) choices to make, etc.
 
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TomUK said:
Personally I don't see why they use mods except to cheat, I stopped using mods years ago after all the bollocks on the saves being screwed up and having to start the game over again for all my routes, and the main reason for using the mods for me in the first place was for the mini games, so I found a simple solution to that, play with mini games turned off.
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Mods are good everywhere else, but not in Being a Dik lol and like someone said I don’t blame DPC hating on mods due to countless of people coming on here and saying “omg this don’t work” “bad developer” “game don’t work”
 
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In terms of BaDik, the mod makes it easier to ace the minigame, find hidden renders, get on certain routes, make freeroams a piece of piss. Most of which you can get from a walkthrough. It's more just ease and quality of life stuff.
 
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Lagunavii said:
In terms of BaDik, the mod makes it easier to ace the minigame, find hidden renders, get on certain routes, make freeroams a piece of piss. Most of which you can get from a walkthrough. It's more just ease and quality of life stuff.
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yeah but then it breaks for the next update and you also have to rely on the modder to be active.

Also not doing the whole delete impacted saves and then get saves from the thread (DIK sage save blocks you out of the ILY path due to receiving handy from Jade)

Just open the walkthrough and then open the solutions that some of us posted here and viola it works
 
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