VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

This story is primarily designed for the player, not the MC - he is limited in knowledge of the world around him and the MC exists in this detailed world where the surrounding characters live a full life - this is part of the DPC narrative of creating a living environment, which we do not see in many AVNs, where the MC is the center of the universe, which makes them dead worlds.
Your last assumption is possible, that this event will probably be for Quinn and Jill, and the MC will not necessarily be there. This scene can live without him, like many others.

too bad it works the same way for everything MC should know... and by now he's lost the motivation to even ask questions...



it's fine that MC doesn't know that Buddy killed Rox, if he's not romantically linked to Quinn, he basically doesn't care, and the same goes for Lana/Jill, Buddy is already a threat, no further “universal” motivation is needed.

 

[Fapparition]

Only if you were smart enough to go on their route. If you didn't, you're stuck with Derek... Cool we can go to the Pink Rose with him, but we always end up imo with the most ugly one of the strippers that we know of: Rose.

It would also be a major trollmove by DPC if Ellie is one of the other VIP Roses

Don't we also get an additional scene with Jill if we choose to stay with Derek?

I have an idea that I've been thinking about for a long time.
Now we can say that Quinn's flashback from Ep.6 and the intro of Ep.11 are the same event from different perspectives. Earlier we saw it through the eyes of little Quinn who got out of bed and Lana's perspective: Buddy and Rox discuss the movie and the rat that should have been killed in it. We see Rox give Jonathan a poisoned dose of, which Lana later died from. Then from Buddy's words we know that Rox died of an overdose and Quinn saw it, but here's the interesting thing. If we are on Quinn's route, we learn that this happened on the same day that Lana and Jonathan bought the drugs.

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Quinn remembers it very well. What's interesting is that Rox dies with the same symptoms as Lana - convulsions and foaming at the mouth.
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Then Quinn experienced a clouding of her mind from the experience and she cannot remember what exactly Buddy shouted at the dying Rox. Both Lana and Rox died from a fentanyl overdose. And not only Lana, but most likely Rox didn't know that the drugs were poisoned. It's doubtful that the leader of a gang, an experienced drug dealer who regularly uses drugs himself, would do such a stupid thing consciously. Rox is a criminal, but I didn't get the impression of him as a stupid man.
Lana's and Rox's drugs were from the same batch and they were all poisoned - most likely these were Rox's personal supplies and he sold a small dose of his drugs for "a party was a rookie", thinking they were good. And who poisoned the batch? There's no need to think long - it was Buddy. Staging an overdose is a good way to remove the boss and take his place, while causing a minimum of suspicion.
I think Buddy is the culprit in the death of both Lana and Rox.

You're not alone with this theory. I'm pretty sure some people here wrote something similar few days after the release of ep.11

Yeah, I thought that too, and I think someone posted the same thing a day or two ago. The downside for me (in terms of this progressing the story) is that there's (currently) no way for the two to be linked by those in the story. At the moment, we (as the MC, not as the viewer/reader) can only get the Lana story in full from Jill, and only get the Rox story from Quinn. I can see Jill telling her story on other paths, in time, but I can't see Quinn spilling if you're not on her path.

Maybe something will come out from the project Jill is setting up, and Quinn will hear about it, or possibly even go to one of the talks herself, and make the realisation there?

If the revelation of Rox's death to Quinn is something DPC intends to do, it will probably be a major event, meaning DPC will make it happen regardless of the route we choose. Something like Quinn hearing Lana's story directly from Jill. So, MC's knowledge about Lana or Rox's death would be insignificant or have only a minor effect at best.

 

[Chillout1984]

If the revelation of Rox's death to Quinn is something DPC intends to do, it will probably be a major event, meaning DPC will make it happen regardless of the route we choose. Something like Quinn hearing Lana's story directly from Jill. So, MC's knowledge about Lana or Rox's death would be insignificant or have only a minor effect at best.

It's possible and even likely if Quinn survives the war with Buddy and Vinny that this will happen. People here have theorized (and I could see it happening) just after release of ep 11 that Quinn will go to a drug intervention (or whatever it's called) meeting that Than organises and could meet Jill and hear her story there. If that indeed happens, I'm pretty certain Quinn will tell her story as well.

 

[iamcomming]

I have an idea that I've been thinking about for a long time.
Now we can say that Quinn's flashback from Ep.6 and the intro of Ep.11 are the same event from different perspectives. Earlier we saw it through the eyes of little Quinn who got out of bed and Lana's perspective: Buddy and Rox discuss the movie and the rat that should have been killed in it. We see Rox give Jonathan a poisoned dose of, which Lana later died from. Then from Buddy's words we know that Rox died of an overdose and Quinn saw it, but here's the interesting thing. If we are on Quinn's route, we learn that this happened on the same day that Lana and Jonathan bought the drugs.

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Quinn remembers it very well. What's interesting is that Rox dies with the same symptoms as Lana - convulsions and foaming at the mouth.
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Then Quinn experienced a clouding of her mind from the experience and she cannot remember what exactly Buddy shouted at the dying Rox. Both Lana and Rox died from a fentanyl overdose. And not only Lana, but most likely Rox didn't know that the drugs were poisoned. It's doubtful that the leader of a gang, an experienced drug dealer who regularly uses drugs himself, would do such a stupid thing consciously. Rox is a criminal, but I didn't get the impression of him as a stupid man.
Lana's and Rox's drugs were from the same batch and they were all poisoned - most likely these were Rox's personal supplies and he sold a small dose of his drugs for "a party was a rookie", thinking they were good. And who poisoned the batch? There's no need to think long - it was Buddy. Staging an overdose is a good way to remove the boss and take his place, while causing a minimum of suspicion.
I think Buddy is the culprit in the death of both Lana and Rox.

it was my first thought too, but my second was to "only buddy got any gain from Rox's death" to legitimalize the idea. my third thought was "why need anything to support it? because there is nothing what pointing out to buddy. if we dont count the fact, no other character was showed up, so no alternative version, only buddy, must be buddy"

buddy is dead for what he did with my Rio, but i really want know what was he shouting to Rox in the last moments.
since its dpc's plot... it could be the poisoned drug is an accident by someone random noname worker or somehow by quinn's mom...

however, buddy was clever with quinn to take out to an orphan house. alive. he as sick psychopath could have killed her with Rox. (if was the one who he killed Rox) it makes more less suspicion.

and quinn... she cares with her dad, but it doesnt looks like she did anything to find out why was poisoned the drug... she just accept it... it really doesnt fit in her character. revenge ratting vinny. revenge call police. no revenge for dad. very consistent
edit: even she do some little revenge for the ep7 hots party hugging post, but i forgot what was that.

 

[treechild1]

Only if you were smart enough to go on their route. If you didn't, you're stuck with Derek... Cool we can go to the Pink Rose with him, but we always end up imo with the most ugly one of the strippers that we know of: Rose.

It would also be a major trollmove by DPC if Ellie is one of the other VIP Roses

Wait, hold up! You’re calling Rose ugly, but you’re a Madame Rose fan/simp? ok, just checking! Go about your day.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Well, of course the game is for the player... What I mean though is that it's all very well for us to know things, but unless the MC knows them, they won't be able to progress the overall story. If it's important, it will almost certainly have to involve MC bringing the two parts together, otherwise there needs to be some way for the information to become at least a little bit public, so the two can overlap (basically so Jill can learn of it). It's possible, of course that Jill will never find out, but since the information is in the game, I'd like to think she would have to find out somehow.

I suppose another way for the overlap to happen would be for Quinn's revenge to be successful, the police take down Buddy and his operation, and Quinn tells her story - it would be out of character for her to do so, but maybe Buddy's arrest would change things in that respect, and make her open up to a support group, or at least a Jill-path MC (unlikely). Jill could hear details through that of how Rox died, and compare it to what she knows of Lana's death, putting the pieces together from there. I don't know if closure is the right word, but finding out who was behind it and learning that they are being served justice might have some small healing effect for Jill and her family.

We see that if MC is not on LI's path, some storylines work without him/with less involvement. Bella replaces MC at Lana's grave, Quinn's drug storyline bypasses him altogether, and he doesn't even know what really happened to Riona. So not everything has to exist with his involvement. Let's see how DPC plays this out.
I don't know how Quinn's plan will work, usually her plans are about profit "here and now", causing a fallout later.

too bad it works the same way for everything MC should know... and by now he's lost the motivation to even ask questions...



it's fine that MC doesn't know that Buddy killed Rox, if he's not romantically linked to Quinn, he basically doesn't care, and the same goes for Lana/Jill, Buddy is already a threat, no further “universal” motivation is needed.

Our guy sucks in intelligence.
Right now the only thing that connects MC with Quinn's threads is his fight with Vinny and the potential problems this guy can cause for DIKs

 

[KАRАMBA]

and quinn... she cares with her dad, but it doesnt looks like she did anything to find out why was poisoned the drug... she just accept it...

Cmon, that idea never even crossed her mind.
And that's okay.
Because overdosing is a common occurrence among drug addicts.
This rarely arouses suspicion in anyone.
For her, the picture of what happened has long been formed, and she will only begin to suspect something when she learns the story of Lana's death.

 

[Josh M Spicer]

Wait, hold up! You’re calling Rose ugly, but you’re a Madame Rose fan/simp? ok, just checking! Go about your day.

Honestly I'm just surprised he didn't go for Sandy as the ugliest stripper.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Our guy sucks in intelligence.

your judgement is a bit harsh, I hope DPC does not read it given his susceptibility, even call him stupid...

Right now the only thing that connects MC with Quinn's threads is his fight with Vinny and the potential problems this guy can cause for DIKs

the drug issue for MC is secondary, Buddy is completely off his radar for now, but all it takes is another gesture from Vinnie or for it to emerge what happened to Riona (in the long run it seems to me impossible to keep it a secret) to bring him into the spotlight


then, but this is a personal idea of mine, I believe that other important events for the LIs will also be traced back to Buddy (James for Bella? Morgan for Sage?). and this would sanction Buddy, or even whoever is above him as the final enemy to be confronted in order to maintain happiness at BR and surroundings

 

[Chillout1984]

Honestly I'm just surprised he didn't go for Sandy as the ugliest stripper.

She's almost on par with the ugliest stripper for me, but only by a hair It's the haircut that makes Rose slightly uglier for me.

 

[katzenstreu]

rose looks like MC with tits. thats why she is a turn off.

 

[Macky009]

rose looks like MC with tits. thats why she is a turn off.
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You are talking about Rose that is a friend of Lily and Nicole not the oily manatee right

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

the drug issue for MC is secondary, Buddy is completely off his radar for now, but all it takes is another gesture from Vinnie or for it to emerge what happened to Riona (in the long run it seems to me impossible to keep it a secret) to bring him into the spotlight


then, but this is a personal idea of mine, I believe that other important events for the LIs will also be traced back to Buddy (James for Bella? Morgan for Sage?). and this would sanction Buddy, or even whoever is above him as the final enemy to be confronted in order to maintain happiness at BR and surroundings

I bet that Buddy is now arrested and in jail, after a police, and Vinny like a slippery and dodgy rat, will be able to slip away and cause problems. Or one of Buddy's accomplices.

Sage's thread to Buddy is possible, rather one of her real parents, we know that she was born into a marginal family where no one cared about her.

 

[TuckeredOut]

I have an idea that I've been thinking about for a long time.
Now we can say that Quinn's flashback from Ep.6 and the intro of Ep.11 are the same event from different perspectives. Earlier we saw it through the eyes of little Quinn who got out of bed and Lana's perspective: Buddy and Rox discuss the movie and the rat that should have been killed in it. We see Rox give Jonathan a poisoned dose of, which Lana later died from. Then from Buddy's words we know that Rox died of an overdose and Quinn saw it, but here's the interesting thing. If we are on Quinn's route, we learn that this happened on the same day that Lana and Jonathan bought the drugs.

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Quinn remembers it very well. What's interesting is that Rox dies with the same symptoms as Lana - convulsions and foaming at the mouth.
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Then Quinn experienced a clouding of her mind from the experience and she cannot remember what exactly Buddy shouted at the dying Rox. Both Lana and Rox died from a fentanyl overdose. And not only Lana, but most likely Rox didn't know that the drugs were poisoned. It's doubtful that the leader of a gang, an experienced drug dealer who regularly uses drugs himself, would do such a stupid thing consciously. Rox is a criminal, but I didn't get the impression of him as a stupid man.
Lana's and Rox's drugs were from the same batch and they were all poisoned - most likely these were Rox's personal supplies and he sold a small dose of his drugs for "a party was a rookie", thinking they were good. And who poisoned the batch? There's no need to think long - it was Buddy. Staging an overdose is a good way to remove the boss and take his place, while causing a minimum of suspicion.
I think Buddy is the culprit in the death of both Lana and Rox.

That was my initial thoughts on what had happened back then. Might even one of the reasons why Buddy's never really trusted Quinn, aside from just being in shady business where you can't trust anyone anyway. But having the daughter of someone you killed come back and be insistent on joining the crew has had to have put him on more of an edge. Not just having her around but also with how similar her look is to Rox's. It's been 13-14 years at this point so there would be no way to prove Buddy was behind any of it unless he confesses to it and no way for it to connect to Lana's death.

 

[KАRАMBA]

Right now the only thing that connects MC with Quinn's threads is his fight with Vinny and the potential problems this guy can cause for DIKs

And a real big love.
A very big love.

Spoiler: Truly BIG LOVE

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[iamcomming]

Cmon, that idea never even crossed her mind.
And that's okay.
Because overdosing is a common occurrence among drug addicts.
This rarely arouses suspicion in anyone.
For her, the picture of what happened has long been formed, and she will only begin to suspect something when she learns the story of Lana's death.

drug baron overdosed himself. it is like... i dont know, you are bug killer but you cant kill the bugs in your house. you are a doctor, but you cant cure your wife's cureable sickness. you are a house seller or real estate agent, but you buy your own house on double price or more. these things may happens, but its shows he is bad in his work.
to me it doesnt looked like Rox would be bad at his work. not a typical trash leader role from films.

 

[NotEthan;P]

Now that the whole loan situation is resolved, Josy no longer needs to keep paying for her share of Maya's dorm and can officially move out. Does Maya stay in the dorm and risk getting a new roommate or does she move into the HOTs' house as well?

If she gets a new roommate it will likely be next semester, so maybe Zoey? That wouldn't' be awkward at all :O
Otherwise, the only rooms at the HOTs that don't have two people are Sage's and Quinn's. We know Sage likes to be on her own, and no words needed for Quinn. So, unless a HOT leaves, I'd say Maya will keep her dorm for the time being.

 

[anon9gg]

season 3 overlay to detect all story/free roam special renders, pack quests & money

current money/max is displayed if there is any money around to avoid checking the phone/stats if you are not already at max before picking it

also includes a spoiler system for the ep11 party guess-who game, just point toward the top-left corner of the screen to show it

Spoiler: alt dl

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this script doesn't modifies/overwrites any game script, and should remains compatible with previous and future game updates (s3 client)

 

[NewTricks]

Yeah, I don't think that calling the Cops was Quinn's move. She wants to get some alone time with Buddy to have the opportunity to use some of these happy instruments on him.

Spoiler: That can of Spum is the most sadistic one.

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Spoiler: Gonna shove it where the sun don't shine.

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Buddy is firmly positioned between fucking around and finding out.

 

[Perished]

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Spoiler: Zoey

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