VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Chillout1984]

Given some of the responses I posted when I first suggested we are closer to the end than we perhaps realise... things like "we have been promised Spring Break" "there's still loads of unresolved things" "But things are just starting with Zoey again" I think there were a couple who were hoping there was going to be something else to resolve in season 4 - I get it, a thing we like is coming to an end, we don't want it too, we think of ways it can continue etc etc

But when you do think about whats left, there isn't much and given DPCs way of bringing most of the mysteries to a resolve in the past if he could end it all at 12 if he wanted too - I'm not saying it would be done in a good manner, but neither would stretching it out beyond its time - the story is unfortunately coming to its natural end and all we can hope now is DPC at least sticks the landing.

His latest Q&A makes it sound like he's very ambitious about the epilogues. I just really hope he will put that ambition into long "normal" epilogues with still renders, text and maybe some animated sexscenes and that he isn't planning into making them minute-long animated cutscenes or something. Short cutscenes are fine in an AVN, but the animations in them are always jerky unless he's planning to make dedicated videoclips or something with a program better suited for them.

 

[El_Magnifico]

Funny how the thread turned to shit again in the blink of an eye. It's almost supernatural, but there's no mystery as to why.
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I was expecting Cinderella to appear in the middle or the end of the video. But no, nothing

I want my 36 seconds back amigo.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Given some of the responses I posted when I first suggested we are closer to the end than we perhaps realise... things like "we have been promised Spring Break" "there's still loads of unresolved things" "But things are just starting with Zoey again" I think there were a couple who were hoping there was going to be something else to resolve in season 4 - I get it, a thing we like is coming to an end, we don't want it too, we think of ways it can continue etc etc

But when you do think about whats left, there isn't much and given DPCs way of bringing most of the mysteries to a resolve in the past if he could end it all at 12 if he wanted too - I'm not saying it would be done in a good manner, but neither would stretching it out beyond its time - the story is unfortunately coming to its natural end and all we can hope now is DPC at least sticks the landing.

the way DPC writes and the way BADIK has gone so far it is possible, and desirable, to end it all now (meaning the plots).

the main storylines have been stretched too far that eventually their closure has brought much more relief than satisfaction. right now, just to stick to the main ones, leaving aside the issues waiting to be squared (I'll give just one example: why Melanie meddles in Sage and Chad's relationship), they remain open:
-James, and here it really only takes a phone call or dialogue to put him behind us
-Jonhatan (Lana), and here again it only takes this conference for the Royces to deal with their grief and it's all over
-Buddy/Vinnie, it depends here, now I don't think that miraculously Quinn's plan has been so successful as to get rid of everyone. but dealing with the survivor should not be a particularly long issue
- the Nerds, their game will be exposed, the fraternities will realize that some of the responsibility is their own and again it will be over quickly.


it is likely to be over quickly because the big questions have been the same since the first season.

all the other issues (Zoey, does the trouple make it or not, the love triangles with
Jil etc...) may very well develop into these long epilogues in season 4.

the spring break would be a great setting for one of the final chapters, i don't see a big problem, DPC loves to create new settings

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

I was expecting Cinderella to appear in the middle or the end of the video. But no, nothing

I want my 36 seconds back amigo.

oh hey a krogan profile pic

 

[Lagunavii]

His latest Q&A makes it sound like he's very ambitious about the epilogues. I just really hope he will put that ambition into long "normal" epilogues with still renders, text and maybe some animated sexscenes and that he isn't planning into making them minute-long animated cutscenes or something. Short cutscenes are fine in an AVN, but the animations in them are always jerky unless he's planning to make dedicated videoclips or something with a program better suited for them.

You can read a lot into what was said in that Q & A - as Spock has already brought up once, its slightly concerning that the low estimate last year was 14, whereas this year it was 13... now that might be him just throwing around numbers for the sake of it, it might not, you can look at the fact he stated season 4 wont be traditional cause it will contain the endings while throwing that 13 out so he can see a way he ties everything up in 12 for a 1 episode massive epilogue, you can look at the fact he said he has ambitious plans for the endings and doesn't know how many it'll take so knows it needs splitting. He generally didn't say anything we didn't already know from last year - all I'm hoping is that once the epilogue hits its on rails like acting lessons was and we have no need for the mini games, no choices or routes etc etc so dev takes a shorter time frame

 

[Derek in a Bush]

His latest Q&A makes it sound like he's very ambitious about the epilogues. I just really hope he will put that ambition into long "normal" epilogues with still renders, text and maybe some animated sexscenes and that he isn't planning into making them minute-long animated cutscenes or something. Short cutscenes are fine in an AVN, but the animations in them are always jerky unless he's planning to make dedicated videoclips or something with a program better suited for them.

Wholeheartedly agree

 

[felicemastronzo]

His latest Q&A makes it sound like he's very ambitious about the epilogues. I just really hope he will put that ambition into long "normal" epilogues with still renders, text and maybe some animated sexscenes and that he isn't planning into making them minute-long animated cutscenes or something. Short cutscenes are fine in an AVN, but the animations in them are always jerky unless he's planning to make dedicated videoclips or something with a program better suited for them.

To hope that DPC will not insert animations everywhere it can seems too optimistic to me.

and I have to say that the one at the beginning of the underwear party was finally “appreciable,” with no animatronics effect

and also a “special” minigames for each path, at least the main ones, I think is inevitable

 

[osculim]

will the old season1 and 2 scrappy moded save load with the season 3 or do i have to play it with sancho mod in order to continue that moded save?

The sancho save fixer should fix a s1-2 save but never mix mods. If you played s1 and s2 with sancho. You can load a season 2 endsave into an unmodded s3. As the end saves and normal saves works differently.

 

[Chillout1984]

the spring break would be a great setting for one of the final chapters, i don't see a big problem, DPC loves to create new settings

If we get spring break, it should still be part of the main game and not part of the epilogue. If 12 or 13 is the last, there are still couple of big student holidays/festivities left:
- NYE
- Valentines Day
- Spring Break (can be combined with St Patricksday)

All of them are extremely fitting for freeroams, with NYE and Spring Break easily getting huge ones. Problem is though, are the remaining problems really enough for 2 episodes since the majority of us don't want 2 very large freeroams in 1 episode (I don't mind myself)?

To hope that DPC will not insert animations everywhere it can seems too optimistic to me.

and I have to say that the one at the beginning of the underwear party was finally “appreciable,” with no animatronics effect

and also a “special” minigames for each path, at least the main ones, I think is inevitable

I have no problems with animations everywhere. I just meant that the entire epilogue shouldn't be 1 big animated cutscene per love interest.

The cutscenes currently in the game could get a bit longer and still be fine, as long as they don't expand to like 5-10 minutes per cutscene in the epilogue.

 

[felicemastronzo]

If we get spring break, it should still be part of the main game and not part of the epilogue. If 12 or 13 is the last, there are still couple of big student holidays/festivities left:
- NYE
- Valentines Day
- Spring Break (can be combined with St Patricksday)

All of them are extremely fitting for freeroams, with NYE and Spring Break easily getting huge ones. Problem is though, are the remaining problems really enough for 2 episodes since the majority of us don't want 2 very large freeroams in 1 episode (I don't mind myself)?

What do you mean by main plot?

if MC goes with the other students and his beloved somewhere for spring break there doesn't have to be any plot, just like there isn't all that much plot in the parties, a free roam, a little chat with some characters, some sex, random tasks

with no mystery to solve or solution to find, just a “final” (or finals) party with a different setting, before the happily ever after

Valentine's Day if there will be one will be a private date, like the one with Bella or Sage, so the problem doesn't even arise

 

[Lagunavii]

If we get spring break, it should still be part of the main game and not part of the epilogue. If 12 or 13 is the last, there are still couple of big student holidays/festivities left:

I mean don't get me wrong.... Ive never said we are not getting Spring break, but in terms of story... we have only just got to xmas and that took the best part of 11 episodes. Spring break is 2 to 3 months away... it will take a serious time jump to get us there. if we do it will have to be an epilogue thing I think

 

[NadaMucho]

You don't have to play but all this speculation and grumbling is distracting me from the great title DPK has created for us. Just a little challenge, and I have many, but give me a single panel "best moment" from BaD. I went back and forth a bit here is one of my top favorites. Peace y'all.

(If you don't play I'm going to pay BCS a year supply of Popeye's spicy chicken sandwiches to kick you in the nuts!)

 

[FalconLover420]

I mean don't get me wrong.... Ive never said we are not getting Spring break, but in terms of story... we have only just got to xmas and that took the best part of 11 episodes. Spring break is 2 to 3 months away... it will take a serious time jump to get us there. if we do it will have to be an epilogue thing I think

I mean we did get a huge jump from episode 9 Halloween to Thanksgiving 10 and then at the 11 at the eve of Christmas/New years

 

[Chillout1984]

What do you mean by main plot?

if MC goes with the other students and his beloved somewhere for spring break there doesn't have to be any plot, just like there isn't all that much plot in the parties, a free roam, a little chat with some characters, some sex, random tasks

with no mystery to solve or solution to find, just a “final” (or finals) party with a different setting, before the happily ever after

Valentine's Day if there will be one will be a private date, like the one with Bella or Sage, so the problem doesn't even arise

I just mean there probably isn't that much story left considering in the speed it goes now, every major plotpoint will end around NYE or maybe in the week after. There isn't really enough story left to make it to Spring Break. That would make one think that it's going to be part of the epilogue, which should be on-rails with no further input by the player.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Sage is a hypocrite, she's moaning about the mc's relationship with Zoey, they were fuck buddies, just like mc and Sage were, there was no declaration of being bf / gf, it wasn't until way later that it hit the mc that Zoey was his girlfriend and it wasn't until the end of ep11 that Zoey realised that they were bf / gf, so technically they weren't bf /gf, just like until the end of ep8 the mc and Sage weren't bf / gf, they were fuck buddies.

Your statement about hypocrisy is meaningless because Sage has zero information about Zoey to begin with and what type of relationship she had with MC, in her perception Zoey is MC's ex-girlfriend. So it's a miss.

 

[Chillout1984]

I mean don't get me wrong.... Ive never said we are not getting Spring break, but in terms of story... we have only just got to xmas and that took the best part of 11 episodes. Spring break is 2 to 3 months away... it will take a serious time jump to get us there. if we do it will have to be an epilogue thing I think

I agree and that would be a major missed opportunity, to have Spring Break in an on-rails epilogue instead of a large/massive freeroam.

 

[Lagunavii]

I mean we did get a huge jump from episode 9 Halloween to Thanksgiving 10 and then at the 11 at the eve of Christmas/New years

Not really huge jumps - Halloween to Thanksgiving is three weeks and we did that in an episode with some filler. Thanksgiving to Xmas is 4 weeks and again we did that in an episode with some filler and exposition that's two episode to go 7 weeks.

while yes it is possible we might tie up the 11 cliffhangers with a hand wave (which Ive said before is sort of what DPC does) a time jump is not out of the realms of possibility. but its still 2 - 3 months away and well into the second semester. its a lot of missing stuff, I just cant see it.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I just mean there probably isn't that much story left considering in the speed it goes now, every major plotpoint will end around NYE or maybe in the week after. There isn't really enough story left to make it to Spring Break. That would make one think that it's going to be part of the epilogue, which should be on-rails with no further input by the player.

time skips are the answers. what day will it be at the end of chapter 12? it may have been months since christmas

I think it is likely that the game will cover at least the first year of college, except for a few scenes from the “distant future” at the very end.
So we will only see the most important moments
valentine's day might even be just a flashback in the middle of another scene.

we need something to build volume before the actual epilogue. this will also serve to give space for new relationships, and then there will be the positive and negative epilogues

 

[Lagunavii]

I just mean there probably isn't that much story left considering in the speed it goes now, every major plotpoint will end around NYE or maybe in the week after. There isn't really enough story left to make it to Spring Break. That would make one think that it's going to be part of the epilogue, which should be on-rails with no further input by the player.

I agree wholeheartedly. The next logical party (and obviously there will be one) will be New Year's, and by then Bella's locked room should be resolved, Buddy is possibly resolved and the Betas will still be a work in progress, but given the Jocks' reaction at the end, there's no way that's getting stretched for three in-game months. There is simply not enough story to get us to March. If we are getting Spring Break, this is how I think we are getting there: it's not going to be the massive DIK/HOT freeroam party people think it will be or rather are hoping for. It'll likely be MC and his LI going somewhere and enjoying themselves.

 

[Lagunavii]

I think it is likely that the game will cover at least the first year of college

why do you think its likely that the game covers his first year in college and not his first semester? Esp given we have already established the game is naturally coming to its end and its all happened in that first semester?