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No, they weren't. The MC just tells them how things have been, they say they've been lonely and found comfort with him, then they kiss and make up. None of that addresses the kinds of issues Josy expresses in Ep 11.
Ok. What exactly was not resolved?

I honestly don't know why you're bringing up Becky here because she has nothing to do Maya and Josy's communicaton issues.
I'm looking for a needle in a haystack with you. Becky annoys Josy and Maya twice in the same scenario in the library, and Maya gets a bit uncomfortable about it, while Josy has no problem in both examples. Once again proving that Josy's Ep11 "wah" moment comes out of nowhere.

Again, none of this means a damn thing when it comes to the deeper issues addressed in Ep 11.
What deeper issues? You mean when Josy off screen starts reading Satre and questions why she loves Maya and is even at school? That soap box that came out of nowhere?

Surface level stuff, not addressing the deeper issues.
...which is?

General talking and having relaxed fun times is not the type of communication we're talking about. That's basic stuff.
Then what exactly are we talking about?

If we see CHAPTERS upon CHAPTERS of the throuple having a good time, going through hardship, dealing with hardship, and then being positive...I mean, what are you talking about?

Everybody can and does do that, but being truly vulnerable and letting them in to your deepest feelings and insecurities is on another level and it's the level that's never been addressed up until now.
Again: what are you talking about?

It's like you have some insight into Josys' psyche. Like, was she tortured as a child? Then, she'd been repressing this trauma all her life? Suddenly, Episode 11 comes by, and you think it all makes sense?

What exact issues are you talking about, and where did they come from? A character can't just put their foot down and start spouting nonsense like "I was traumatised as a child" and expect an audience to buy it. But there isn't any trauam with Josy: she's totally fine! Just because you THINK there's something there without evidence doesn't mean it's there. Just because DPC decides to pull a 180 doesn't mean it makes sense.

Factually untrue. Literally everything Josy talks about are the unresolved, unspoken, and unaddressed issues.
Citation needed. Prove your statements.

This has nothing to do with anything.
Let's this this again:
1. Episode 9's Hallowe'en party was great for the two, outside of Oscar being mean to Josy. The Truth or Dare scene, who to choose, sex later, all positive.
This proves:
-Josy and Maya are having a good time with each other.
-They got together and did their hair, and Josy helped out with makeup and costume
-With alcohol combined
-With sex
-With throuple sex
-Alongside with Oscar making Josy feel bad. So there's good and bad. It's not all one big happy drunken sexy time. It's a party, things get messy and wild.

Kinda puts a big giant hole in your theory that there's something underneath the surface that's OH SO DANGEROUS and deadly to Josy's psyche when she's drunk, sexual, getting attacked, and being happy with the two people she loves.

2. Pete's phone call just made Josy embarrassed

Josy's getting embarrassed as MC talks to Pete. Yet she's still good ol Josy, not angry, violent, crazy, or having a breakdown, which would probably happen in a scenario like this if she has some childhood drama due to Pete, her mom, stepmom, or something she was repressing...similar to her showing the MC her blog -- but even that is just normal embarrassment. Josy's normally just a positive, confident and confident girl. Especially sexually.

In case you don't know, being sexually positive and confident in ones sexuality is a sign of maturity. Josy is perhaps one of the most mature ladies in the story...until her wah moment.

3. Episode 9/10's Tommy/Walk of Shame event, Josy's trying to resolve the conflict, and MC calls for the DIK code.

Another stressful moment, where the throuple is literally under conflict, along with family issues of Tommy, similar to the MC and his dad. Josy, Maya and MC get through it regardless, even with Josy trying to deflect Tommy.

So no, Josy, Maya, and the MC are having a pretty good relationship, despite all the slings and arrows. Which is expected. It's not perfect, but there's no trauma or existential angst or struggle causing Josy to QUESTION HER VERY EXISTENCE and LOVE FOR HER LOVER.

But WHERE exactly, in these, and other scenes, from Episode 4-11, does Josy have some hidden psychological issues, calling into question her inability to love Maya and the MC? Because I can point to about half a dozen sex scenes where she has no problems professing her VERY POSITIVE! Feelings to both.

All of this literally has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
What exactly are you saying then?

It isn't, you just never saw it.
I've been anxiously awaiting for your response for over a month. I made a post about it in my signature. You've yet to respond. So please. Get to it.

ILLUMINATE US OH WISE ONE

Nothing close to what they did in Ep 11.
...and that is what exactly?

Chirpy, yes, mature, hardly. She's spent most of the game with love goggles on and been blinded by them and her asking the MC in Ep 11, "Do you like me?", is one of the most immature, childish things imaginable. She's in a relationship with him and they have sex, how can she possilbly think he doesn't like her? Such an oddly childish question to ask of him.
First, how is something basic like "do you like me" immature and childish? Seems pretty simple and straightforward.

Secondly, Josy is even doing a constructive activity like blogging and photography during her supposed introspection moment. She isn't just scared in her room. So she's not some emotionally disgruntled exisntialist goth listening to alternative rock all day, or angry at some system of power, or scared or hates her parents or some authority figure. She's just Josy with all the old fixings...but now can't love Maya, doesn't know what she wants in life...and it makes no goddamned sense.

But nevermind that. I'm still waiting on 1) where this traume came from, 2) where it's manifested throughout the 9 or so other chapters us Plebs can't seem to find. Oh wise one!
 

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Ok. What exactly was not resolved?


I'm looking for a needle in a haystack with you. Becky annoys Josy and Maya twice in the same scenario in the library, and Maya gets a bit uncomfortable about it, while Josy has no problem in both examples. Once again proving that Josy's Ep11 "wah" moment comes out of nowhere.


What deeper issues? You mean when Josy off screen starts reading Satre and questions why she loves Maya and is even at school? That soap box that came out of nowhere?



...which is?



Then what exactly are we talking about?

If we see CHAPTERS upon CHAPTERS of the throuple having a good time, going through hardship, dealing with hardship, and then being positive...I mean, what are you talking about?


Again: what are you talking about?

It's like you have some insight into Josys' psyche. Like, was she tortured as a child? Then, she'd been repressing this trauma all her life? Suddenly, Episode 11 comes by, and you think it all makes sense?

What exact issues are you talking about, and where did they come from? A character can't just put their foot down and start spouting nonsense like "I was traumatised as a child" and expect an audience to buy it. But there isn't any trauam with Josy: she's totally fine! Just because you THINK there's something there without evidence doesn't mean it's there. Just because DPC decides to pull a 180 doesn't mean it makes sense.


Citation needed. Prove your statements.



Let's this this again:
1. Episode 9's Hallowe'en party was great for the two, outside of Oscar being mean to Josy. The Truth or Dare scene, who to choose, sex later, all positive.
This proves:
-Josy and Maya are having a good time with each other.
-They got together and did their hair, and Josy helped out with makeup and costume
-With alcohol combined
-With sex
-With throuple sex
-Alongside with Oscar making Josy feel bad. So there's good and bad. It's not all one big happy drunken sexy time. It's a party, things get messy and wild.

Kinda puts a big giant hole in your theory that there's something underneath the surface that's OH SO DANGEROUS and deadly to Josy's psyche when she's drunk, sexual, getting attacked, and being happy with the two people she loves.

2. Pete's phone call just made Josy embarrassed

Josy's getting embarrassed as MC talks to Pete. Yet she's still good ol Josy, not angry, violent, crazy, or having a breakdown, which would probably happen in a scenario like this. Similar to her showing the MC her blog -- but even that is just normal embarrassment.

3. Episode 9/10's Tommy/Walk of Shame event, Josy's trying to resolve the conflict, and MC calls for the DIK code.

Another stressful moment, where the throuple is literally under conflict, along with family issues of Tommy, similar to the MC and his dad. Josy, Maya and MC get through it regardless, even with Josy trying to deflect Tommy.

So no, Josy, Maya, and the MC are having a pretty good relationship, despite all the slings and arrows. Which is expected. It's not perfect, but there's no trauma or existential angst or struggle causing Josy to QUESTION HER VERY EXISTENCE and LOVE FOR HER LOVER.

But WHERE exactly, in these, and other scenes, from Episode 4-11, does Josy have some hidden psychological issues, calling into question her inability to love Maya and the MC? Because I can point to about half a dozen sex scenes where she has no problems professing her VERY POSITIVE! Feelings to both.



What exactly are you saying then?



I've been anxiously awaiting for your response for over a month. I made a post about it in my signature. You've yet to respond. So please. Get to it.

ILLUMINATE US OH WISE ONE



...and that is what exactly?



First, how is something basic like "do you like me" immature and childish? Seems pretty simple and straightforward.

Secondly, Josy is even doing a constructive activity like blogging and photography during her supposed introspection moment. She isn't just scared in her room. So she's not some emotionally disgruntled exisntialist goth listening to alternative rock all day, or angry at some system of power, or scared or hates her parents or some authority figure. She's just Josy with all the old fixings...but now can't love Maya, doesn't know what she wants in life...and it makes no goddamned sense.

But nevermind that. I'm still waiting on 1) where this traume came from, 2) where it's manifested throughout the 9 or so other chapters us Plebs can't seem to find. Oh wise one!
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Because solo stans often continually prove they don't. So much of what you said proves that.

The only thing that's truly "factual" is that these deeper more vulnerable issues expressed in the Ep 11 convo were never addressed or known before making it very different to all the times we've seen them talk before. So trying to say that they were ever on the same level is a complete fallacy.



You really can't see the difference, can you? You have absolutely zero ability to recognise or understand how this convo touches on things that have never been touched on before, that Josy bared her soul to Maya in a way she never has before, that she made herself more vulnerable than she ever had before by telling Maya all the things she dare not have said until that point because she feared what would happen if she did, that these were all the things she tried to bury deep down but were eating her up inside.

Every convo before this were simple quick fixes, easy apologies, and surface level chats, but they never got anywhere close to the level of deep, revealing vulnerabilities like Ep 11 did nor they did they express as much resolve to deal with the issues as this one did because they never really got to the root of them before. In fact, the previous convos never even really had them outright say, "we're going to do better now", they just made up and carried on. So when you say, "they never do the things they talk about", the fact is they never actually talked about doing anything until this convo in Ep 11 because they hadn't actually talked about what was really going on.

This convo is different, and that's factual.



Their actions don't diminish their words. Both things can be true.



You can heavily favor one, you can have things be close, you can have things be even, and you can have RP ratios that are widely different or very close. There are many ways it can be and DPC making it an automatic choice in Ep 11 isn't necessarily a determining factor in anything when that's the case, it's most likely been done to create this air of uncertainty and unpredictability more than anything else. Whoever you get in Ep 11 can literally be decided by the slimmest of RP ratio margins. A 1% difference in RP when you have even scenes, don't say ILY, and spoon the other girl forcing you onto a solo route would be a ridiculous way to go and makes little sense. The fact that you can have a favorable standing with both and heavy standing for one surely means it can go both ways based on those factors.



Not necessarily. It could just be that he is given different opportunities to say it to each. Not being able to say it to one in this episode does not preclude it being possible to say it to the other in Ep 12.
Dude I admit I could be wrong and there a path to save throuple but your unwilling to admit there is very clearly a path where Josy and Maya are breaking up and one will be with MC . If your trying to have a real talk then stop with the you don't know what your talking about stuff It feels like your reaching for something that isn't there.
 
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Dude I admit I could be wrong and there a path to save throuple but your unwilling to admit there is very clearly a path where Josy and Maya are breaking up and one will be with MC.
If you heavily favor one of them, probably, not denying that. You're the one that seems to be denying there's still a chance it's not over yet since things can still be very close between them and because they're convo was significant.

If your trying to have a real talk then stop with the you don't know what your talking about. It just feels like your reaching for something that isn't there
Ironic considering we say that because of the reaching views of others on aspects of this topic :LOL:
 

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In the flow it seemed to me she was asking the age old "I know you love me but do you like me" kind of question.
I don't like you, but I love you
Seems that I'm always thinking of you
Oh, oh, oh, you treat me badly
I love you madly, you really got a hold on me


 
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I just thought of all the people who need therapy in BAD.

The list might be something like this:

1. Bella: girl bursts into tears when safe in bed and trying to talk about her lost husband with someone she trusts. Can't smile, can't get over her dead marriage, has a panic attack when a boy she likes kisses him, names gnomes for Christmas decorations, and might have a literal room full of horrors.​
2. Quinn: pretty smart and adjusted, despite her drug and pimp lifestyle, bad and violent upbringing and environment. Might need a police officer present.​
3. Sage: emotional sexual violent firebrand with an ego-driven adopted family...that has way more problems, and they all seem to be popping off right now.​
4. Riona: god knows what her family and personal life is like. Likes gaming, drugs, and possibly a boy. Minor OCPD.​
...​
25. Maya: she's alright. Rest of her family needs group counselling. Brother needs a rubber room, or forever surrounded by tupperware.​
...​
50. Jill: pretty well adjusted despite having lost a sister and has a drunken distant dad, living with a bunch of rich pricks, with a bunch of cheating and lecherous friends and family members, her only solace is problem #1, Bella. Weird obsession with the moon and destiny, but that just makes her a romantic girl. Also needs family counselling.​
...​
99. Josy: has a weird, over protective step brother. Has a loving father, mother and stepmom. Is mature and lucky enough to have a throuple, into economics and fashion, and is doing her own blogging and photography. Dear God, she's a female anime protagonist.​
100. MC: a brick. Likes: punching things back, guitar, his best friend Derek, his loving dad, and chemistry.​
 

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If you heavily favor one of them, probably, not denying that. You're the one that seems to be denying there's still a chance it's not over yet since things can still be very close between them and because they're convo was significant.



Ironic considering we say that because of the reaching views of others on aspects of this topic :LOL:
How is admitting it could be save denying it could be save I don't think that's how it works :ROFLMAO:

I think if your favoring one and got the I love you then yes for that path it is over but that nothing crazy when everything is pointing to it. Not saving I love you yet things still up in the air because it can go a few different ways: save it, breakup, date both but not a throuple anymore, they breakup with you, total breakup for all 3
 

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Lucia is just Isabella with extra steps... i cant have been the only one that notice it... i think somebody at rockstar have been playing BAD 0.o:BootyTime::WeSmart:
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She's missing something, something very integral to Bella's character...

... her quiet gaze, that can go from stern to sultry in an instant :BootyTime:
I just thought of all the people who need therapy in BAD.

The list might be something like this:

1. Bella: girl bursts into tears when safe in bed and trying to talk about her lost husband with someone she trusts. Can't smile, can't get over her dead marriage, has a panic attack when a boy she likes kisses him, names gnomes for Christmas decorations, and might have a literal room full of horrors.​
2. Quinn: pretty smart and adjusted, despite her drug and pimp lifestyle, bad and violent upbringing and environment. Might need a police officer present.​
3. Sage: emotional sexual violent firebrand with an ego-driven adopted family...that has way more problems, and they all seem to be popping off right now.​
4. Riona: god knows what her family and personal life is like. Likes gaming, drugs, and possibly a boy. Minor OCPD.​
...​
25. Maya: she's alright. Rest of her family needs group counselling. Brother needs a rubber room, or forever surrounded by tupperware.​
...​
50. Jill: pretty well adjusted despite having lost a sister and has a drunken distant dad, living with a bunch of rich pricks, with a bunch of cheating and lecherous friends and family members, her only solace is problem #1, Bella. Weird obsession with the moon and destiny, but that just makes her a romantic girl. Also needs family counselling.​
...​
99. Josy: has a weird, over protective step brother. Has a loving father, mother and stepmom. Is mature and lucky enough to have a throuple, into economics and fashion, and is doing her own blogging and photography. Dear God, she's a female anime protagonist.​
100. MC: a brick. Likes: punching things back, guitar, his best friend Derek, his loving dad, and chemistry.​
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