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El_Magnifico

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It was only a few months, though. You don't hatch a plan in seconds. And she might not have made the plan herself. Maybe Magnar suggested it to her. I'm assuming that Avery is the one who actually posted the Cathy cluck.
Sure, but she could've just as easily gotten over it by then. Although Kylie was holding a grudge for even longer, so another shrug from me.

Tara said they weren't behind the Cathy Cluck though, just the flyers. There's no reason to doubt her, unless you think her whole forgiveness thing is a ploy. That, or Avery lied to her about it.
I'm going with the Avery lied idea.
 

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Has to be the most detailed and well written adult game ever made. Hot characters and art, great music...and most importantly the writing is incredible. Great balance of story telling and sense of humour. I loved it :love:
 

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I'm going with the Avery lied idea.
Beth, Penny, Kylie and Avery were at the party when the Cathy Cluck was posted. Ultimately one's physical presence doesn't matter if they have remote access via the nerds, but maybe one of them were with the laptop? But then idk why Nick would cover for them, that points more towards Vinny. Unless the laptop is ultimately a red herring?
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I think I just hate theories at this point :cry::cautious:
 
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Beth, Penny, Kylie and Avery were at the party when the Cathy Cluck was posted. Ultimately one's physical presence doesn't matter if they have remote access via the nerds, but maybe one of them were with the laptop? But then idk why Nick would cover for them, that points more towards Vinny. Unless the laptop is ultimately a red herring?
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I think I just hate theories at this point :cry::cautious:
Doesn't anyone care about the backpack?

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Here is how to solve the puzzle box:
Side 1:
Side 1 will unlock the other sides
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Side 2 controls the letters on side 6
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We're skipping to Side 5
Every symbol is a number 1-9, going from Left to Right each row must equal 15. Diagonally as well from Top Left to Center and Bottom Right
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Go to side 4 and your done!
i am missing one of the buttons on side 2, can you help ?
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Beth, Penny, Kylie and Avery were at the party when the Cathy Cluck was posted. Ultimately one's physical presence doesn't matter if they have remote access via the nerds, but maybe one of them were with the laptop? But then idk why Nick would cover for them, that points more towards Vinny. Unless the laptop is ultimately a red herring?
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I think I just hate theories at this point :cry::cautious:
I'm more focused on how the original picture was taken. Sure the nerds could have installed a hidden camera, but there is a massive amount of luck involved. First in the actual installation and then getting a shot of Cathy. How much easier is it for a girl to waltz into the women's locker room, start taking selfies and when Cathy is being photogenic switch to normal camera, pretend to pose for a selfie and take the picture?

Nick and Vinny can still have something going on. It just wasn't the Cathy cluck. They gave our culprit girl an opportunity though. I focus on Avery because she was so insistent that the DIKs did it, but any girl who goes to the gym on a regular basis could have done it with ease. Avery just seems like someone who'd have a more serious motive than being embarrassed by the walk of shame.

Avery taking the picture doesn't cancel out nerd involvement though. The cluck could have been made by hacking. They definitely have remote access to the laptop. But then the question becomes how they made that happen. If it involved someone getting their hands on the laptop and installing spyware the involvement of a girl once again becomes likely.
 

Macky009

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Is it just me, or does she have this sort of, Nora vibe to her?
Wouldn't be far fetched if she turned out to be a younger sister or cousin of hers. No?

I duno, maybe I've read one too many Dali theories. :sneaky:
Actually that's my theory that Cinderella and Nora are siblings
 

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i know, dpc probably will punish for the dik choice. but locking out these arrogant sluts is so good feeling.
i really dont care about avery's sister was humiliated by vinny story. it is not reason to humiliate poor Cathy (and/or mc, etc).
 

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I'm more focused on how the original picture was taken. Sure the nerds could have installed a hidden camera, but there is a massive amount of luck involved. First in the actual installation and then getting a shot of Cathy. How much easier is it for a girl to waltz into the women's locker room, start taking selfies and when Cathy is being photogenic switch to normal camera, pretend to pose for a selfie and take the picture?

Nick and Vinny can still have something going on. It just wasn't the Cathy cluck. They gave our culprit girl an opportunity though. I focus on Avery because she was so insistent that the DIKs did it, but any girl who goes to the gym on a regular basis could have done it with ease. Avery just seems like someone who'd have a more serious motive than being embarrassed by the walk of shame.

Avery taking the picture doesn't cancel out nerd involvement though. The cluck could have been made by hacking. They definitely have remote access to the laptop. But then the question becomes how they made that happen. If it involved someone getting their hands on the laptop and installing spyware the involvement of a girl once again becomes likely.
I've been keen on the idea that the hacking was all through the brawler app which you can see Magnar doing the coding through. Time to plug the Nick manifesto again...
This is the last post that I will make about the Nick laptop confusion.

Since witnessing the argument between Nick and the DIKs I have been trying to come up with logical reasons for Nick being willing to admit to being with the laptop when the Cathy cluck was posted but not that he posted the cluck.

I have come to several possibilites through my own thinking as well as community ideas and will break them down into three catagories which are "Nick is innocent", "Nick made a mistake" and "Nick is lying".

Of course it goes without saying that Nick's behaviour (outing the DIKs dirty laundry, banging Heather, stealing the fishtank money etc) will mean that some players will not forgive him regardless, however, I believe that due to the number of variables that lead to Tremolo sympathising with Nick, he will have a role in bringing down the Magnar plot if the player has been sympathetic towards him.

With that being said, I will start with "Nick is innocent" theory.

Magnar has hacked the DIKs laptop: This theory came from the thread, not from me personally. It suggests that Magnar has hacked the code of the "Brawler" app to gain remote access to the DIKs devices. In this theory, Nick was in the right place at the wrong time during the party when the Cathy cluck was first posted. When Nick was using the laptop during the party and logged into the DIKs cluck account, Magnar could remotely post the cluck which would frame the DIKs and Nick became an unfortunate scapegoat. This theory tracks with what Nick has told us, that he was with the laptop during the party but that he did not post the cluck, and also means that the image of magnar editing the brawler code has a pay-off in the story.

"Nick made a mistake" theory: In the aftermath of the Cathy cluck being posted, Tremolo explores the DIKs mansion to talk to all of the DIK members and Nick is found alone in the library. The theory here comes from Vinny and Nick's connection as maggot brothers and a shared hatred. Nick wants to get back at Tommy for the way that he treats Tommy and similarly, Vinny wants to destroy the DIKs. In this scenario, Nick opens the window to the library, letting Vinny into the party and allowing him to post the Cathy cluck. This theory also means that Nick is not lying as he was with the laptop, however, it was Vinny who posted the cluck.

"Nick is lying" theory: The most straightforward and also least likely theory. We know from Tremolo's discussion with Chad in the library that files are stored on the DIKs laptop. In this theory, Nick was lying to the DIKs in the argument and posted the cluck himself, or that Nick is in cahoots with Magnar and sending him files from the DIK laptop to get back at Tommy for his behaviour and his treatment of Heather whom Nick is in love with.

In conclusion, I believe that upon my own thoughts and with help from community ideas that the "Nick is innocent" theory is most plausable as it has the most tangible connection to the overarching Magnar plot and also, due to the game seemingly setting up a redemption for Nick through choices such as "we need more information", Nick being reedeemed and the DIKs all working together to bring down Magnar seems like a reasonable way to end episode 12 which many believe to be the update which will tie up all of the remaining story threads before the following "epilogue" episodes.
 

Chillout1984

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I'm more focused on how the original picture was taken. Sure the nerds could have installed a hidden camera, but there is a massive amount of luck involved. First in the actual installation and then getting a shot of Cathy. How much easier is it for a girl to waltz into the women's locker room, start taking selfies and when Cathy is being photogenic switch to normal camera, pretend to pose for a selfie and take the picture?
My guess is that Ron somehow knew that Cathy was going to be there (most logical being just following her) and simply took the picture with his phone by staying at the corner.

I was also thinking some more about Bella's room being a storage room for painful memories. It's a hunch and maybe a stretch, but I've got a feeling that you're theory about Miranda, Vivian (and Bella) didn't know about Tremolo's birth and/or Lynette's death. I think this for at least the following reason:

When talking about Maya, Tremolo mentions that while growing up, Neil did great on every day that mattered. Neil doesn't seem to agree:
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I don't think he only thinks about the day Lynette died, since imo that was before MC growing up. There must have been at least 1 moment later on that Neil thinks he made a bad decision for the wellbeing of MC. Maybe a fallout with MC's friends or simply leaving town without telling them about it? If so, there might be a picture in Bella's room with Neil, Baby Tremolo and 1 or more girls (most logical being at least Miranda, since she seems to have had a closer relationship with Miranda than Vivian).

There is a counterargument to this during the same meet, and that's that Neil only reacts happily with "That's a beautiful name" when MC mentions her name is Isabella. You would think there should pop up at least a thought if she also knew Lynette in the past, even if Neil wouldn't think of it being the same Bella (and to be honest, why would he?). This can simply be explained however by him not being as close to Bella as Lynette, Miranda and/or Vivian.
 
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