Chillout1984

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No, Sage's temper is shown in the very first meeting there is nothing sudden about it. Jill is closer, but by the time she actually goes for Tybalt's balls it has been building up for so long that sudden is once again off the table.

Josy could turn out to be a yandere, but I really hope not. Leave that to fanfiction writers along with the serious NTR, incest and whatever else they insist on cooking up.

To be honest none of the manga character tropes really fit BADIK. The characters have too much complexity. Even Sally is a bit off. A tsundere is supposed to get aggressive because she's embarrassed of the romantic emotions/perverted desires. Sally is obviously comfortable having those emotions with Magnar. It's more a case of her taking her frustrations out on MC and then warming up to him. She would still be going from tsuntsun to deredere and thus it would be a tsundere development, but it isn't how the trope typically goes.

The only girl who really gets angry over her own emotions is Bella and even with her it's just the starting point. And her story is more of a kuudere melting than a tsundere calming down.
With Sage, it's just that she could suddenly go from (what seems to be) very calm to very aggressive. Maybe not necessarily physical, but certainly in her speech. One of the most perfect examples of this is when she confronts Sarah and Mel at the pool and it's also the reason why MC is/was scared to ask Sage about her personal life.

Also a tsundere is not supposed to get aggressive, that's the yandere. The meaning of tsundere is " Tsundere is a Japanese term used to describe a character, often in anime or manga, who initially displays a cold, hostile, or aloof demeanor, but gradually reveals a warmer, more affectionate side ". This definitely fits Sally in how she is with MC (also Bella btw).
 
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This image makes me think of two things:

- Magnar in the background, always checking on the progress of his "foolproof plan."
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Magnar has taken into account that Sally can't be fully trusted, so he's already launched plan B - a much more reliable and cunning asset, immune to even dicks with the strongest magical powers :sneaky:
 
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Magnar has taken into account that Sally can't be fully trusted, so he's already launched plan B - a much more reliable and cunning asset, immune to even dicks with the strongest magical powers :sneaky:
It would be more fitting if she was his plan C instead of plan B :WeSmart:
 
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Does anyone know if Jill#4 render location got changed? when i look in a steam guide (first pic attached) it says the left drawer of the bed. But when I open that drawer the drawer doesnt even look the same (second pic attached). It's the only render from Episode 2 that I didn't get on first playthru, and this 2nd playthru it's not there either

It's definitely not in the other drawer bc the only things in there are 2 polaroids and a pillow after picking up the render that was already in there
 

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I think BAD is fine and shouldn't impact as much. Plus it wouldn't change how much of the story he has written.
Basically what I am saying is BAD is the equivalent of the marvel movies in the AVN atm, its not doing much in terms of putting in themes like grape and etc, the deepest theme we had so far was death by drugs and prostitution.
Yeah I usually compare BaDIK to the MCU, simple plot with comedic narratives, iconic characters in the genre, but for the "deeper meaning" or anything more extreme - that's in other, more niche AVNs.
 
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Does anyone know if Jill#4 render location got changed? when i look in a steam guide (first pic attached) it says the left drawer of the bed. But when I open that drawer the drawer doesnt even look the same (second pic attached). It's the only render from Episode 2 that I didn't get on first playthru, and this 2nd playthru it's not there either

It's definitely not in the other drawer bc the only things in there are 2 polaroids and a pillow after picking up the render that was already in there
Follow these arrows to get to the other side of the bed, there's another set of drawers:
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With Sage, it's just that she could suddenly go from (what seems to be) very calm to very aggressive. Maybe not necessarily physical, but certainly in her speech. One of the most perfect examples of this is when she confronts Sarah and Mel at the pool and it's also the reason why MC is/was scared to ask Sage about her personal life.

Also a tsundere is not supposed to get aggressive, that's the yandere. The meaning of tsundere is " Tsundere is a Japanese term used to describe a character, often in anime or manga, who initially displays a cold, hostile, or aloof demeanor, but gradually reveals a warmer, more affectionate side ". This definitely fits Sally in how she is with MC (also Bella btw).
Sage's temper is too common knowledge for her to be a yangiru. The character must have a solid image of being friendly and calm so their temper comes as a shock. Sage loses her temper too often to count. Jill is much closer, but her temper doesn't go off hard enough. The yangiru is somewhere in between. Typically as calm as Jill, but sometimes goes off like Sage.

Tsunderes get aggressive all the time. The term started as a blanket term for characters that go from tsuntsun (in a sense cold^2) to deredere (warm^2). These days it refers specifically to the aggressive type, while the other types have coined their own terms. Bella has her outbursts, but she is more of a kuudere.

A yandere on the other hand is sort of a tsundere in reverse. Someone who starts out bright, positive and loving, but then turns out to have a dark side and typically extreme enough to be called psychotic. The idea that love justifies everything is a very yandere one when taken to extremes. If for example it turned out that James actually came back a couple of years ago, but before he met with Bella he ran into Jill and she killed him, then that would make Jill a yandere.

Quinn's actions don't make her a yandere because she never pretends to be nice or think that love justifies those actions. She gets revenge for Riona, but there are no delusions about being a good person.

Tybalt has definite yandere tendencies, but it's debatable if his actions were extreme enough. Also the fact that so many see through his act might cancel out his yandere status, but since Jill falls for it (at least initially), he should still count.

Bella's attitude with the Tybalt and Jill situation has a yandere vibe, but Jill straight up asks her to help and her actions don't get extreme enough. She even feels shame over sending a tennis ball to his face.
 

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Tsunderes get aggressive all the time. The term started as a blanket term for characters that go from tsuntsun (in a sense cold^2) to deredere (warm^2). These days it refers specifically to the aggressive type, while the other types have coined their own terms. Bella has her outbursts, but she is more of a kuudere.
I literally copied the definition for a tsundere in my reply to you. Nowhere did it say that a tsundere gets aggressive all the time, so I have no idea where you get that idea.
 

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Make sense. DPC is probably aware of the activist invasion in the AVNs sphere, it is quite possible that he wants to protect the game from screaming Karens and make it safe as possible. Too visible game, one of the largest on the market, too much attention. Too much money is at stake.
DPC has always chosen very safe paths and BaDIK is one of the most vanilla games, the most non-standard we have is mommy-son roleplay and one polyamory trope. Netori scene with Elena is the most kinky tabooed thing he done.
If I was him, i would choose the safety, because you can't fight monopoly payment processors.
Or… the model’s the same and it’s just the way this one render is posed?
 

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I literally copied the definition for a tsundere in my reply to you. Nowhere did it say that a tsundere gets aggressive all the time, so I have no idea where you get that idea.
From actually watching anime, reading manga and discussing them with people. You on the other hand quoted something that is out of date and failed to understand what it meant. In this context the term translated as "cold, hostile, or aloof" (tsuntsun) also covers aggressive or even violent behaviour. How you think "hostile" doesn't include "aggressive" is a mystery to me.
 

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From actually watching anime, reading manga and discussing them with people. You on the other hand quoted something that is out of date and failed to understand what it meant. In this context the term translated as "cold, hostile, or aloof" (tsuntsun) also covers aggressive or even violent behaviour. How you think "hostile" doesn't include "aggressive" is a mystery to me.
Hostile doesn’t inherently mean “aggressive”. You can quite passively be hostile to someone (such as deliberately ignoring any contribution they make).
 
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From actually watching anime, reading manga and discussing them with people. You on the other hand quoted something that is out of date and failed to understand what it meant. In this context the term translated as "cold, hostile, or aloof" (tsuntsun) also covers aggressive or even violent behaviour. How you think "hostile" doesn't include "aggressive" is a mystery to me.
Hostile doesn’t inherently mean “aggressive”. You can quite passively be hostile to someone (such as deliberately ignoring any contribution they make).
Indeed. Aggressive is (almost) always hostile, but hostile is not necessarily aggressive. Great example of this is Bella at the beginning of the game. She is hostile towards MC thanks to his running around naked, but she is not aggressive. Same with Sally, she also starts as hostile towards MC.
 

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Hostile doesn’t inherently mean “aggressive”. You can quite passively be hostile to someone (such as deliberately ignoring any contribution they make).
No, but they are hardly mutually exclusive concepts. It's even fairly common for soldiers to refer to enemy combatants as "hostiles".

As for your example, behaviour like that is also commonly referred to as passive aggression.
 

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No, but they are hardly mutually exclusive concepts. It's even fairly common for soldiers to refer to enemy combatants as "hostiles".

As for your example, behaviour like that is also commonly referred to as passive aggression.
Yes, but you're talking about aggressive, not passive aggressive. Passive aggressive can also be hostile, and both Bella and Sally (among others) start out as the perfect examples of that.
 
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