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VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

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Chillout1984

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KАRАMBA said:
Look, dude, we're adults, so let's talk like adults.
Riona is not Quinn's slave.
She could have stopped doing what she was doing at any time.
But she kept selling drugs. Despite the risks she knew about.
So don't make her a victim.
I can understand Riona's frustration with Quinn. She's been through a lot.
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Yeah, the problem with the Riona-Quinn situation is that Riona sees her as one of her best friends and in as we find out in ep 11, in a way Quinn was Riona's "savior"
Even while knowing she shouldn't, Riona unfortunately trusts her too much because of this, even with the doubts and frustrations she has.
 
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KАRАMBA said:
Despite the risks she knew about.
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I'm not sure if she knew the risks. Everything she knew, she knew from Quinn and as we know, Quinn lies. I remember the moment where MC calms Riona down after she found out that Quinn told Tommy that Riona was getting weed for free. She didn't do that, Quinn did. What stopped Quinn from lying in other places? Or at least not telling the whole story. Like when she took MC with her without telling him that he was supposed to cover for her from a possible robbery. It seems easy for her to lie, not tell the whole story and manipulate.
 
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I'm not sure if she knew the risks. Everything she knew, she knew from Quinn and as we know, Quinn lies. I remember the moment where MC calms Riona down after she found out that Quinn told Tommy that Riona was getting weed for free. She didn't do that, Quinn did. What stopped Quinn from lying in other places? Or at least not telling the whole story. Like when she took MC with her without telling him that he was supposed to cover for her from a possible robbery. It seems easy for her to lie, not tell the whole story and manipulate.
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From Quinn's point of view, not telling everything and lying is her way of trying to protect her friends, because that's what she was taught as a kid. The problem is that Quinn is a great example of the meme "The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math".
 
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xsavius said:
I'm not sure if she knew the risks. Everything she knew, she knew from Quinn and as we know, Quinn lies. I remember the moment where MC calms Riona down after she found out that Quinn told Tommy that Riona was getting weed for free. She didn't do that, Quinn did. What stopped Quinn from lying in other places? Or at least not telling the whole story. Like when she took MC with her without telling him that he was supposed to cover for her from a possible robbery. It seems easy for her to lie, not tell the whole story and manipulate.
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What do you mean you're not sure?
She's not a child, and she's not mentally retarded.
She was using drugs before she met Quinn. You know, that says something.
So don't make Rio an innocent angel and Quinn a bloodthirsty monster.
That's not fucking true.
 
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KАRАMBA said:
What do you mean you're not sure?
She's not a child, and she's not mentally retarded.
She was using drugs before she met Quinn. You know, that says something.
So don't make Rio an innocent angel and Quinn a bloodthirsty monster.
That's not fucking true.
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You're right that Riona isn't a child and made her own choices. But the point isn't to make her out to be an "innocent angel," the point is that Quinn was systematically manipulating information. Yes, Rio was using before her, but that doesn't mean she was fully aware of the risks, especially when Quinn was deliberately hiding or distorting them.

The difference between them is that Quinn is a manipulator who used people for her own ends, while Riona, while no saint, was often influenced by her. That doesn't excuse Riona's actions, but it does explain why she might not see the whole picture.

So yes, she's not a victim in the classic sense, but Quinn is also an active toxic factor in her life. Both flawed, but in different ways.
 
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d2dacameron said:
I'm a bit rusty on my Cinderella knowledge but she has to get "true love's kiss" before midnight or something right?

They have a midnight time limit and, if you find the girl to match your shoe, then you kiss them or something :unsure:
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Midnight is just when the magic wears off, the carriage turns back into a pumpkin, the dress back into rags, and the footmen and driver back into rodents - but the glass shoes stay the same for some reason.

Then the Prince has to find and identify her by matching her shoe to its foot.

There's an interesting reinterpretation (which fits surprisingly well given that it's not actually a historical version so far as I can tell) where, rather than a glass slipper, it's a "fur slipper" which is in turn a euphemism, so rather than taking an item of footwear around to see whether it fits women's feet, the Prince is going around trying on women's "fur slippers", which leads to the sisters bleeding (proving they weren't the ones the Prince "danced" with) before Cinderella's "fur slipper" is a perfect fit...
 
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xsavius said:
So yes, she's not a victim in the classic sense, but Quinn is also an active toxic factor in her life.
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That's it. That's right - "in HER life".
This is Riona's life, and she, and only she, is responsible for what factors take place in her life.
I repeat, she could have stopped communicating and doing business with Quinn at any moment, but she didn't.
The truth is very simple - everyone is responsible for their own life, and for the troubles that sometimes arise in this life.
And no need to blame others.
 
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Quinn is one of the more interesting characters.
Hate her or love her, it definitely brings out strong feelings from the player base.

That's usually a good thing. That's what makes the character interesting to follow. To see what happens.
In that part, DPC has created a wonderful character.

In my world view, since I'm a Sci-Fi nerd, I kind of liken her to Gul Dukat from Deep Space Nine. Definitely not the same character, but I could see a 'somewhat' similar story arc.

Bad Guy(girl in this case) who you end of feeling for at one point.
It just remains to be seen if she can find some sort of redemption or if it will be a very hard fall from any type of grace.
 
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xsavius said:
Compared to other games I've played on this site, he's a fucking genius.
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For some reason MCs are usually written as morons. Tremolo is a moron too, but you are correct, compared to many, many others he is a fucking genius. (y) :ROFLMAO:
 
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