name88 - King of Hearts

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I wasn't suggesting that - I was just throwing my thoughts while concocting my theories. CAznable found sort of plot hole - maybe - and to explain Maya, I could only conclude DPC made much bigger plot hole about her story or stories. Or there is something that we don't see. Maya is sort of like trying to unify general relativity and quantum mechanics. Whatever theory we could propose, it'll fail at one of the questions about her.

1. She's claiming she's "different" (and MC is different, according to her). What does that mean?
2. Her father doesn't want to pay for her tuition. Why and what is his ultimatum?
3. Even with a student loan, she needs more money. What for?
4. What is that thing Maya owes Derek for?
5. Derek didn't give up on her. What was that?
6. Why she doesn't want ANYONE to be attracted to her?
7. About who is she thinking about when grinding on MC? Thing is - some people think she's thinking about someone she loves or she loved but she's clearly trying NOT TO ENJOY that moment so it would be more probable she is thinking about someone she hates/ feels disgusted about etc.
8. "Is it because I’ve been so lonely? Or because I need someone new?" - those Maya's thoughts are really confusing and creepy, tbh. I would remind you that she reacted to MC's remark how "all relationships end badly" with "I wouldn't know". So about whom is she talking about? Who was "old one" if she needs "someone new" and, more importantly, what happened to that "old one"?
9. Why is she so torn about one kiss?
10. "Mc: Not used to waking up next to someone, huh? Maya: It’s been a while." - she is 18. What does that mean? How can you fit that with questions 6 to 9?
11. Maya's words how "love can be painful - even when it's returned" - where does that fit in?

The only thing we can be sure about Maya is that her father is a control freak and he's probably ruling over his family with the iron grip. I have a feeling we'll meet that guy and it won't be a pleasant experience.
1.Might mean nothing,knew a girl who called herself different simply for liking anime.Maya says that MC is different and than that she`s also different.Not having full acceptance of her father it really might be literally nothing just feeling like an outsider.
2-5.We have to wait and see.
6.She might not want a relationship at this point in time and not being interested in casual sex with strangers.
7.We do know why she feels uncomfortable - the whole thing is a sorority task and she is being watched,while getting aroused,hence the thought of some one who gave her pleasure in the past(given that she thinks about a dildo my bet is on a girl),she simply tries not to cum in front of Quinn,Sarah and Melanie.
8.That part is confusing,I`m convinced she was in love but at the same time she doesn`t know about relationships?
9.point 6.
10.Because she was in love before,not knowing about relationships line makes it confusing.
11.She was in love before.

I know he doesn`t fully accept Maya,the iron tyrant part doesn`t fit with Derek at all.Most likely it`s some 1 trait she has...like being bi for example that her father just can`t/won`t accept
 

KingFuzzy

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just discovered this, and just wondering... am i the only one who thought upon seeing the title this was a simulation game where we hop around as a disembodied penis?

also, from the images is this a harem like game or a choose only 1 girl, or 2 with twins route game?
 

Minengeschoss

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Ok guys I'm gonna drop the bomb.
If you look at Quinn face tattoo on the main picture, it's the sign of . Her origin is Breton, French, checkmate.

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What is this supposed to mean? That Quinn is eager to surrender when a few tanks go trough her "Ardennes"? Or that her breath smells of garlic? Or that she's an arrogant prick.... wait, no, she is.

Just kidding, I love the French.
 

laliandra

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What is this supposed to mean? That Quinn is eager to surrender when a few tanks go trough her "Ardennes"? Or that her breath smells of garlic? Or that she's an arrogant prick.... wait, no, she is.

Just kidding, I love the French.
bretons are celtic, they have more in common with the gaels, irish and english than with the french.

Yeah it's off, is there any other reason why it might not work?
no idea, it should work
 

CAznable

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Just because Maya relates MC’s Penis to a dildo doesn’t mean she’s Bi, it just means she hasn't had experience with guys, she could’ve just loved a guy who she never did anything with.
But I do see the point you guys are trying to make, it’s possible, as is almost anything in this game as of now

Josy’s Boyfriend could be watermelon, Bella’s husband could be that mannequin, or Sage could be a Futa, who knows

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vir_cotto

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1.Might mean nothing,knew a girl who called herself different simply for liking anime.Maya says that MC is different and than that she`s also different.Not having full acceptance of her father it really might be literally nothing just feeling like an outsider.
2-5.We have to wait and see.
6.She might not want a relationship at this point in time and not being interested in casual sex with strangers.
7.We do know why she feels uncomfortable - the whole thing is a sorority task and she is being watched,while getting aroused,hence the thought of some one who gave her pleasure in the past(given that she thinks about a dildo my bet is on a girl),she simply tries not to cum in front of Quinn,Sarah and Melanie.
8.That part is confusing,I`m convinced she was in love but at the same time she doesn`t know about relationships?
9.point 6.
10.Because she was in love before,not knowing about relationships line makes it confusing.
11.She was in love before.

I know he doesn`t fully accept Maya,the iron tyrant part doesn`t fit with Derek at all.Most likely it`s some 1 trait she has...like being bi for example that her father just can`t/won`t accept
You can already see that some of the answers are colliding - but that's what was expected because that's what I'm talking about.

About Derek - we know he cheated throughout the high school. Father isn't lenient towards him, Derek just knows how to cheat and fake things. Problem with bi - or even lesbian - theory is the fact Maya is not in a relationship. She would say if she is in that conversation with MC. And she wouldn't fake having BF - she would just say she's in a relationship. And if that's the case, father really doesn't have the reason not to pay her tuition.

I was trying to use your logic - finding the most obvious reason - and I think I found it but still, it doesn't give us a complete story. She wants to be a social worker. If her5 father is control freak, he probably wants to be the one who'll decide what will be her future - probably wanting for her to be the lawyer or something.

The problem, again, is - we don't know why she needs so much money, because not even the student's loan is enough for her. Also, that doesn't explain why her father is ignoring her on graduation photo or why she is happy only on that one photo with her friend and her brother. So, as I said - every theory about her is always full of holes. I just hope they're holes because we couldn't find the right answers and not plot holes.
 

Minengeschoss

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also, from the images is this a harem like game or a choose only 1 girl, or 2 with twins route game?
If you're not an autocratic Ottoman sultan, I would approach your relationships with the LIs as you approach them in real life. Harem routs don't seem to work. Not that I've had any experience, but I know my ex GFs wouldn't have approved such a move for one second.

Is there any release date for the full ver?
DPC posted his first status update on this game on 15 December last year. If we are optimistic and expect a mid-August release it means around 8 months from alpha to 0.3. If we assume all updates are of similar length, give or take, if DPC doesn't go professional, we could estimate that to finish the game will take around 32 months. So that means the final game will be released in summer 2021.

We can speed it up with everyone becoming a patron, he only needs 370 more patrons to purchase a computer purely used for rendering animations. So sign up today!
 

name88 - King of Hearts

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You can already see that some of the answers are colliding - but that's what was expected because that's what I'm talking about.

About Derek - we know he cheated throughout the high school. Father isn't lenient towards him, Derek just knows how to cheat and fake things. Problem with bi - or even lesbian - theory is the fact Maya is not in a relationship. She would say if she is in that conversation with MC. And she wouldn't fake having BF - she would just say she's in a relationship. And if that's the case, father really doesn't have the reason not to pay her tuition.

I was trying to use your logic - finding the most obvious reason - and I think I found it but still, it doesn't give us a complete story. She wants to be a social worker. If her5 father is control freak, he probably wants to be the one who'll decide what will be her future - probably wanting for her to be the lawyer or something.

The problem, again, is - we don't know why she needs so much money, because not even the student's loan is enough for her. Also, that doesn't explain why her father is ignoring her on graduation photo or why she is happy only on that one photo with her friend and her brother. So, as I said - every theory about her is always full of holes. I just hope they're holes because we couldn't find the right answers and not plot holes.
I mean the only problem considering her love life comes from 1 line " I wouldn`t know anything about it" when talking about bad end to a relationship...what if she means just that,specificly that,a BAD end to a relationship?

It`s 1 thing to cheat on a test,it`s something completly different to pretend to be someone else the entire time,especially with people you live with.We have a photo of Derek being Derek form their past.(I`m pretty sure the use of word "furious" is just a figure of speech)Everything suggests the father cares a lot about apperances,maybe some kind of a politician?Politician that doesn`t want his daughter to be seen with a gf?Or like you said to have a specific career that he chose for her...

No,she`s clearly not in a relationship,it doesn`t mean that she never was,she could have been before,I`m sure she was in love before judging by the way she talks about love,she talks out of experience.I don`t think it`s too far fetched of a possibility that that someone was a girl,a lot would point to such possibility.

Are we certain she did take a loan in the end?She says something in the lines of "it`s not that simple".Does the student loan cover everything(tution,dorm food,clothing) or just the tuition?

She`s not happy with her father because he doesn`t accept her or that is her perception of the sitution,either way it`s pretty clear to me.What is that thing about her that her father does not accept,is the answer to all other questions - the ultimatum included,obviously.
 

laliandra

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I mean the only problem considering her love life comes from 1 line " I wouldn`t know anything about it" when talking about bad end to a relationship...what if she means just that,specificly that,a BAD end to a relationship?

It`s 1 thing to cheat on a test,it`s something completly different to pretend to be someone else the entire time,especially with people you live with.We have a photo of Derek being Derek form their past.(I`m pretty sure the use of word "furious" is just a figure of speech)Everything suggests the father cares a lot about apperances,maybe some kind of a politician?Politician that doesn`t want his daughter to be seen with a gf?Or like you said to have a specific career that he chose for her...

No,she`s clearly not in a relationship,it doesn`t mean that she never was,she could have been before,I`m sure she was in love before judging by the way she talks about love,she talks out of experience.I don`t think it`s too far fetched of a possibility that that someone was a girl,a lot would point to such possibility.

Are we certain she did take a loan in the end?She says something in the lines of "it`s not that simple".Does the student loan cover everything(tution,dorm food,clothing) or just the tuition?

She`s not happy with her father because he doesn`t accept her or that is her perception of the sitution,either way it`s pretty clear to me.What is that thing about her that her father does not accept,is the answer to all other questions - the ultimatum included,obviously.
i tend to think that the key part of that sentence is "bad END to a relationship". i'm grasping at straws here, i know, but it could be that she was in a relationship and they decided to take a break rather than break up definitively. the boyfriend case seems unlikely, but a girlfriend could be the case. the way she talks about stuff like that makes it very likely she has had experience on relationships.

about the tuition, it's implied she's taking a loan for it but it seems she needs money for something else. it could be for her other basic needs but it seems to me it's something more expensive. if the HOTS pay for her tuition she could use the money from the loan on something else. idk the legality of that, but it might be what she has in mind.

now the problem with her father almost definitely revolves around acceptance. that's what the scene where she goes why are you like this, behave like a normal daughter or something like that tells us.
 

Minengeschoss

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about the tuition, it's implied she's taking a loan for it but it seems she needs money for something else. it could be for her other basic needs but it seems to me it's something more expensive. if the HOTS pay for her tuition she could use the money from the loan on something else. idk the legality of that, but it might be what she has in mind.
Here's a wild idea. What if Derek has cancer? What if her dad has cancer? Maybe she needs the money for the treatment. Or as cancer was already used in AL, what if Derek needs a kidney transplant?

If the HOTs are paying Maya's tuition if she whores around, it's illegal by default, and it's procuring charges for Quinn and possible prostitution charges for Maya. If Maya does not accept whoring but still gets the money from the HOT war chest, then she's in trouble for breaking the agreement.
 

Blablablafapper

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Here's a wild idea. What if Derek has cancer? What if her dad has cancer? Maybe she needs the money for the treatment. Or as cancer was already used in AL, what if Derek needs a kidney transplant?

If the HOTs are paying Maya's tuition if she whores around, it's illegal by default, and it's procuring charges for Quinn and possible prostitution charges for Maya. If Maya does not accept whoring but still gets the money from the HOT war chest, then she's in trouble for breaking the agreement.
I don't think DPC would reuse the same plot point. Good Authors generally don't do that in their own series's. Maya's situation is a bit tricky to comprehend given what little we know. And as vir_cotto pointed out, it's due to lack of information and not (hopefully) plot holes.
 
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