VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Deleted member 1396220]

No, we get this week, the 2nd week of the Scavenger Hunt and the MC's 3rd week at college, then we skip ahead to his birthday. Plenty of time in this upcoming week to get the ball rolling with the reformation of the DIKs, establish the MC's place in this new order, (hopefully) get into the panties of both Jill and Bella, change our status with Sage from "fuck buddies" to "more than friends but not quite bf and gf", and get a nice threesome with M&J.

Nothing with Quinn?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

The MC's dad also says he's cutting the planning a little close, so the birthday could be as little as a week or two.

Personally, given the rate we've been adding complications versus the rate at which we're resolving them, I'm not expecting a time skip any time soon. If we spend a couple episodes ramping down the crises, then I'll start to think about fast forwarding. (I realize you are more or less predicting that, I just expect more complications to arise during those episodes that will reset the clock.)

Big issues don't necessarily have to be resolved before a potential time skip, but they'd simply cool off for bit. Things have been moving very fast so far, but if the MC can find a good balance between his studies, helping the DIKs, and spending time with all his lady-loves, and other plot threads like Quinn's machinations settle down for a bit, then DPC could afford to advance the story a few weeks or a month or so since those hectic first few weeks and all the drama therein has plateaued, at least for now.

Nothing with Quinn?

She could maybe speak to her supplier and come to some sort of arrangement that gives her a bit of a grace period to pay back what she owes, thus easing the pressure on her for a short while.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Big issues don't necessarily have to be resolved before a potential time skip, but they'd simply cool off for bit. Things have been moving very fast so far, but if the MC can find a good balance between his studies, helping the DIKs, and spending time with all his lady-loves, and other plot threads like Quinn's machinations settle down for a bit, then DPC could afford to advance the story a few weeks or a month or so since those hectic first few weeks and all the drama therein has plateaued, at least for now.

She could maybe speak to her supplier and come to some sort of arrangement that gives her a bit of a grace period to pay back what she owes, thus easing the pressure on her for a short while.

Can you imagine the drama potential of the MC's birthday party though? Which lady is he going to invite? Holy Sheet Batman WORLD WAR III!

 

[rockie]

I'm 100% sure that we have Rooster because sometime in the future MC will find his first girlfriend there

 

[Deleted member 1396220]

She could maybe speak to her supplier and come to some sort of arrangement that gives her a bit of a grace period to pay back what she owes, thus easing the pressure on her for a short while.

That would be very interesting to see how it goes Overall, it's not looking too good for her

 

[Deleted member 1396220]

I'm 100% sure that we have Rooster because sometime in the future MC will find his first girlfriend there

This! I was thinking of what it could possibly be used for and this definitely came to mind. Perhaps some shenanigans can ensue

 

[blabbolo]

Can you imagine the drama potential of the MC's birthday party though? Which lady is he going to invite? Holy Sheet Batman WORLD WAR III!

Not to sound negative but i strongly doubt that we will get separate versions of his birthday depending on who is your main Li. He will invite all the girls

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Can you imagine the drama potential of the MC's birthday party though? Which lady is he going to invite? Holy Sheet Batman WORLD WAR III!

I posted this at the start of the month:

As for the birthday, I'm thinking there could be a choice to invite along one of the LIs, except for Bella as there's the issue of what it might like look like if someone were to see them going away with each other. I also reckon we'll be able to invite both Maya and Josy together given that, on their path, they said that they should do more things together as part of the whole "seeing where things go" relationship they have. Then I reckon there will be sex scene in the MC's room with whoever he invites back.

Would also be cool if there was an additional scene for the M&J path where they all go to see Josy's dad and we meet the fabled Monica, or maybe Josy goes to see them alone leaving the MC and Maya to go to the same spot where the MC and Josy had their first date. In fact, the trip to this place could also be on the Jill and Sage paths too as kind of an homage to his date with Josy, but now it's with someone else.

That would be very interesting to see how it goes Overall, it's not looking too good for her

No, it is not.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Not to sound negative but i strongly doubt that we will get separate versions of his birthday depending on who is your main Li. He will invite all the girls

That would be even worse. 5 women that he is sleeping with (potentially by the time we get there) who know about each other or don't depending on the situation all in one location

 

[Ilhares]

If you are fuck buddies with sage relationship growth would be forced. If you are pursuing Bella and suddenly there’s no progress for months that’s bizarre. Given a large element of the game is sex outside of relationships jumping through relationship growth would be bizarre imo. I see zero reason for these large jumps.

Speaking as someone who has been in 'interesting relationships' in the past, it really wouldn't be all that unusual. Sometimes things just settle in to a reliable, (ir)regular pattern. Shortly after I finished highschool my most recent ex- became an on again/off again FwB for roughly 3 years, even though I was seeing others at the time. We cared for each other, but there were still no strings of obligation. She eventually moved out of state to attend another college and then married the first guy she hooked up with out there. They're still married and have kids. Seeing that played out real-time would be a drag, only getting very periodic updates is great. Time-skipping is sanity-saving.

I'm hoping the game story lasts for a year and a half (MC time) at least. It doesn't need to be drama and panic every other day to maintain a good story. (regular boning with your SOs is nice, must admit that)

<snip>Sara/Mel. They have some trades and deals and they really love messing around to everything they can reach. Quinn included. Its even not about parties really. They are just love сollege life that way. Like Quinn, but without massive shady business target in sight. Like i said. Pure Chaotic Evil.

Respectfully disagree. Chaotic Evil is often without reason and almost exclusively malicious. They may do things you do not find morally agreeable, but I haven't seen anything from them so far (that I can recall) that reeks of actual malice. They're party girls, out to have a good time, and they don't care about "the rules" of society. Chaotic Neutral at worst right now. Camilia borders on the edge of LE/NE. She wants to adhere to the guidelines established (lawful) by Quinn, but lacks that strength of will to adhere, resulting in her giving the MC more than he expected at the gloryhole, and later readily giving in when the MC encourages her to give the finger to Quinn's authority. I still leave her on the Evil side of the scale not for malice (a strong trait of CE) but because she's knowingly doing these unacceptable (societally) things strictly because she enjoys it and it brings personal gain. NE is a very selfish lifestyle (and there's nothing wrong with that).

It's somewhat why I dislike the D&D core alignment system, it's very untidy. The alignments of the Palladium tabletop games felt much more organic and reasonable.

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Now, obviously, murder isn't likely to be real high on the list in BaDIK, but we can't rule it out. Substitute other highly unethical/anti-social actions if needs be.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Not to sound negative but i strongly doubt that we will get separate versions of his birthday depending on who is your main Li. He will invite all the girls

If there's a party on campus, then sure, they'll all probably get an invite. But he also tells his Dad in the text that he's looking forward to coming home for his birthday, so in that scenario we may have to choose who goes with him and this could be a major relationship decision.

 

[Hrllav]

I'm 100% sure that we have Rooster because sometime in the future MC will find his first girlfriend there

that would be interesting to see

 

[blabbolo]

That would be even worse. 5 women that he is sleeping with (potentially by the time we get there) who know about each other or don't depending on the situation all in one location

That will happen no matter what, he has no reason to not invite one of the main Li, to be fair though,
bella partecipating if she dislikes you would make 0 sense.

If there's a party on campus, then sure, they'll all probably get an invite. But he also tells his Dad in the text that he's looking forward to coming home for his birthday, so in that scenario we may have to choose who goes with him and this could be a major relationship decision.

What if we don't get the chance to invite someone home with us?

 

[RonWeasleyJr]

In regards to Jill/Sage graduating next year, I really hope this game isn't like Roommates where the ending reveals that the MC and his love interest drifted apart after graduation as their different desires led them down different paths in life.

I'd rather DPC go for a more ambiguous "I don't know what the future will bring, but we'll face it together" ending.

Realistic? No, but a game where you can potentially have sex with four different women in a 2-hour window without any consequences isn't necessarily going for total realism.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

What if we don't get the chace to invite someone home with us?

Then we don't and he goes home alone.

I'm just saying that this could be an interesting choice for DPC to include.

In regards to Jill/Sage graduating next year, I really hope this game isn't like Roommates where the ending reveals that the MC and his love interest drifted apart after graduation as their different desires led them down different paths in life.

I'd rather DPC go for a more ambiguous "I don't know what the future will bring, but we'll face it together" ending.

Realistic? No, but a game where you can potentially have sex with four different women in a 2-hour window without any consequences isn't necessarily goi g for total realism.

Jill is a 3rd year and Sage is a 4th year, so only Sage would be graduating.

 

[murphy88]

My point is simply that the script does not care how many RP you have with Bella. You could probably start a new game with -100 RP for each of the main LI and still could do (almost) everything you can do in a normal game. It's only certain actions that matter and they have their own flags. Some actions also give RP but since the game (except for the cases mentioned earlier) never looks into the RP-variables, their RP-values have no effect.

For the Bella talking nicely about mc event you mentioned :
RP doesn't matter. The script only checks the variable ep3_bella_came_around.

if ep3_bella_came_around:  
    isa "He's been unlucky...or chosen his friends poorly, I should say."
    ji "Huh?"
    ji "I thought you didn't like him."
    ji "¿Qué te hizo cambiar de opinión, de repente?"  
    isa "Tuve una conversación con él".  
    ji "¿Y? ¿Te gusta ahora?" 
    isa "No. En absoluto". 
    ji "Pero?"  
    isa "Pero no todo es malo".  
    ji "No todo es malo?"
    ji "Sabes, eso es lo mejor que has dicho sobre un chico".  
    es un "..."
    ji "Creo que podrías tener razón".  
    isa "Bien. Entonces, adelante". 
    ji "Adelante y ... ¿hacerse amigo de él?" 
    isa "Sí, eso o salir con él. Lo que sea".  
    ji "¿Salir con él?"
más:  
    isa "No solo es desafortunado como tú, Jill. Está buscando problemas activamente".
    ji "¿Eh?"  
    isa "Tuve una conversación con él ... quería darle una oportunidad, ya sabes, para ti".
    isa "Pero la forma en que está actuando ..."  
    isa "Esperaba que fuera diferente, pero como es, ahora mismo ..."
    isa "... sigue siendo solo un niño".  
    ji "¿Le diste una oportunidad ... por mí?"
    ji "¿Por qué?" 
    isa "Quería asegurarme de que fuera lo suficientemente bueno para ti ..."
    isa "Para hacerse amigo ... o para salir ... o lo que sea". 
    ji "¿Hasta la fecha?"
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I will not keep repeating myself because it seems that you do not understand it, if you want to verify what I say do it yourself, play a game where Bella rejects you (she speaks badly of you to jill), for not fulfilling the event that you point out to me, save game just before the conversation with jill and upload the RP with the console, you will see how the conversation changes and speaks well of you, just check it for yourself, so we will not continue arguing forever

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

That will happen no matter what, he has no reason to not invite one of the main Li, to be fair though,
bella partecipating if she dislikes you would make 0 sense.

What if we don't get the chace to invite someone home with us?

Yeah but "at a party" setting would be acceptable, take at the DIK's house for example. It would be a lot less intimate than a trip back home to meet Dad. Still it could, potentially, be fraught with risk anyway. Add in alcohol on top of it. Imagine girl 1 kisses MC and girl 2-5 plus all the side chicks see it. OH MY JESUS!

It is customary to introduce a significant other to parents eventually.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Then we don't and he goes home alone.
I'm just saying that this could be an interesting choice for DPC to include.
Jill is a 3rd year and Sage is a 4th year, so only Sage would be graduating.

And that's assuming that it's only a 4 year degree. There are a ton of degrees that require more than that. So who knows. Even though I think I remember Sage specifically saying that she wouldn't be here next year.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

Based on the classes that they took so far, DPC is using American college system or Swedish college system or are they the same? How many years would it take for a student to graduate? I am not familiar.

 

[mindern]

Yeah but "at a party" setting would be acceptable, take at the DIK's house for example. It would be a lot less intimate than a trip back home to meet Dad. Still it could, potentially, be fraught with risk anyway. Add in alcohol on top of it. Imagine girl 1 kisses MC and girl 2-5 plus all the side chicks see it. OH MY JESUS!

It is customary to introduce a significant other to parents eventually.

As long as we can Sixteen Candles it up with Jill after because she didn't wanna come to a DIK party I don't care what happens.