VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Cndyrvr4lf]

MrFriendly Cndyrvr4lf
The thing with Quinn, for me, is that, as heinous as her actions are, she's like one of those villains/anti-heroes that you can't help but like even if they've done some pretty terrible things, like Harley Quinn, or Loki, or Vegeta. All characters who've done a lot of bad things including killing people, but other aspects of them, redemptive moments, 180 character arcs, have made them fan-favourites despite once being very villainous characters. Of course, Quinn hasn't had any redemptive moments yet, but I think she could go that way and that's part of the reason I somewhat like her.

I think so. I think it would suck if not going down the Jill path and getting her ending meant that we completely break her heart, so it might be better if we could sort of set her up with Rusty in a kind of "this is the man for you, not me" kinda way, because then at least she could be happy.

The reason she hasn't had and redemptive moments is because she keeps going deeper and ignoring those above moments. Riona has told her that they should stop, her own common sense has got to be telling her that she's in to deep. She is literally stealing from her sisters and her sorority to fund her own bullshit. So even the girls not whoring are now at risk as well.

I dont watch a lot of tv, watch most modern movies or read comic books so I don't get the reference to HQ, Loki or Vegata so hard to judge. I know Loki as a Norse God and he is evil incarnate without a lot of redeeming features. Sorry

 

[MrFriendly]

The reason she hasn't had and redemptive moments is because she keeps going deeper and ignoring those above moments. Riona has told her that they should stop, her own common sense has got to be telling her that she's in to deep. She is literally stealing from her sisters and her sorority to fund her own bullshit. So even the girls not whoring are now at risk as well.

I dont watch a lot of tv, watch most modern movies or read comic books so I don't get the reference to HQ, Loki or Vegata so hard to judge. I know Loki as a Norse God and he is evil incarnate without a lot of redeeming features. Sorry

Yep! She is diving head first into shit creek and it feels more like she is going to end up either in jail, dead, or looking to the MC to help her get out of trouble (because game logic). I am fine with letting her drown in her own shit. She's never been more than an ass to my MC. I know others have had different interactions but in my game she is an irredeemable POS.

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Holy Bacchus I guess I don't understand how you can label Quinn as a Anti-Hero. Lets see if we can find a common ground, I'm guessing your younger than me but I could be wrong. Blade, The Crow to me are Anti-Heroes. They kill people, torture, maim etc. etc. but they do it to protect others. They are bad guys killing other bad guys to make the world a better place. Quinn doesn't do that. She whores out the people she should protect as the VP of the Hot's all to serve her own selfish needs. There is nothing anti-hero involved in that.

 

[StarWulf]

Exactly how I feel. Quinn is not redeemable to me. I just can't be "okay" with someone profiting off the pimping out of another person, especially someone they are supposed to be "sisters" with and watch out for. If Sage knows, which I am still not clear on, it will make Sage a no go for me too. And I love me some Sage.

Blasphemy!!! Sugar Tits is redeemable. She just needs love, care, and a baseball bat full of love. Without the Taser.

 

[ename144]

Exactly how I feel. Quinn is not redeemable to me. I just can't be "okay" with someone profiting off the pimping out of another person, especially someone they are supposed to be "sisters" with and watch out for. If Sage knows, which I am still not clear on, it will make Sage a no go for me too. And I love me some Sage.

Sage is disappointed if the MC remembers Lily as a Pink Rose dancer (as opposed to saying she's a DIK recommendation). Given that, and the way Quinn tends to stop talking about the business when Sage arrives, I'm inclined to think Sage does not know about the restaurant.

 

[Raplion]

I guess I don't understand how you can label Quinn as a Anti-Hero. Lets see if we can find a common ground, I'm guessing your younger than me but I could be wrong. Blade, The Crow to me are Anti-Heroes. They kill people, torture, maim etc. etc. but they do it to protect others. They are bad guys killing other bad guys to make the world a better place. Quinn doesn't do that. She whores out the people she should protect as the VP of the Hot's all to serve her own selfish needs. There is nothing anti-hero involved in that.

boy, if people here are disgusted with some character, it is because the writer is doing a good writing in the story, where people can express love, anger, sadness, repudiation by the attitudes, I like Maya even after her hesitation, others here hate her, this is what makes this game great, each choice is a consequence and follows a different path, whether someone likes it or not .... Quiin even I don’t like her, I want her away from my MC. Even Riona and others are better than her. XD

 

[Cndyrvr4lf]

Sage is disappointed if the MC remembers Lily as a Pink Rose dancer (as opposed to saying she's a DIK recommendation). Given that, and the way Quinn tends to stop talking about the business when Sage arrives, I'm inclined to think Sage does not know about the restaurant.

Honestly hope so. Sage is one of my top 3.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Honestly hope so. Sage is one of my top 3.

I'm sure Sage doesn't know the full extent of it. But how much does she know? That conversation during the Sexy Car Watch looked to me like she knew something.

 

[Dashxp4k]

I have a theory That Bella locked room is her own room. since, her teenage years because it's her parents home. Look at Bella boots!

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[Dashxp4k]

I have a theory That Bella locked room is her own room. since, her teenage years because it's her parents home. Look at Bella boots!

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[Wizard_Shiryuu]

I have a theory That Bella locked room is her own room. since, her teenage years because it's her parents home. Look at Bella boots!

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That's acually the most likely theory I've heard so far, considering that now we know it used to be her parents' house.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

I will not invest anymore affection into Quinn until DPC reveals more of her backstory, of how she's so hell bent to earn money in anyway possible, of how she becomes like this. Something or some event shaped her, just like Bella. I am currently reading Legendary Moonlight Sculpture and in some ways she is like Weed.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

I have a theory That Bella locked room is her own room. since, her teenage years because it's her parents home. Look at Bella boots!

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That's acually the most likely theory I've heard so far, considering that now we know it used to be her parents' house.

Now we could take it to its most logical follow-up question. What could have happened to make Bella seal away her childhood/late teen years' room in that way?

 

[drcynic22]

Yeah, I'm on the opposite end of that one, buddy. I see Quinn as something of a tragic character, someone who has a veneer of being this tough, callous, manipulative person, but is hiding some deep emotional trauma underneath and using this veneer to shield herself from both dealing with it and other people seeing it. She probably hates herself more than anybody else does and while what she's done is wrong, I feel she deserves a 2nd chance if she can change her ways.

I think you've probably got the more likely interpretation. Quinn is almost certainly designed to be a tragic character that the MC can rescue. Of course not everyone can be entirely tolerant of her attitude. She may certainly hate herself and maybe she has a tragic backstory that we can sympathize with, but I've steered my MC far clear of her. She can only bring him long term trouble with drugs and pimping. She also might not necessarily be redeemable. This being a DPC story, there could be a swerve with her with regards to a redemption arc. She could end up getting one of the other HOTs killed or jailed (or maybe even herself). It's just a risk I'm personally not willing to take, though I can understand others who are willing to.

 

[Kodek]

I have a theory That Bella locked room is her own room. since, her teenage years because it's her parents home. Look at Bella boots!

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Man that would be logical and actually would agree with Bella's character. Shame it wouldn't have too much to do with her husband or maybe it would...?

I was thinking other day and maybe Bella's best friend in her college years was Jill's sister and she either hooked up and/or liked each other and that caused some troubles for both, that could explain why she's so awkward with Jill while laying together in the bed and why she said that line about never let anything happen with a friend again (don't remember the line or where it was said exactly, think it was something like that) or (diving in the probably not side of the idea) she blames herself for the sister's death?

 

[lemonfreak]

Now we could take it to its most logical follow-up question. What could have happened to make Bella seal away her childhood/late teen years' room in that way?

She decided to make her old room a nursery for her child but then either had a miscarrage or worse, she had a baby and it died from SIDS, causing her to lock that room.

Given that scenario, the way Bella reacted to Jill snuggling up to her may have nothing to do with a past lesbian encounter and instead be a memory of a time when her boobs leaked on Jill shortly after the miscarrage/child death.

 

[Ilhares]

Well now, this one poses a challenge.

JC
Say you return to the college after your birthday
and the entire campus is on fire. Who would you save? (and DPC don't you dare )

On the one hand, there is the emotional/lustful decisions, and on the other are the logic-fueled thoughts.

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Honestly a bit surprised you put Riona up against Camila, and not her regular tag-team menace, Mona. Though without more character development, I would have had to let her burn until I find something significant about her.

 

[Kodek]

About the Quinn drama:

Quinn is one of my favorite characters, but she is fucked up. She doesn't deserve much sympathy and no matter what tragic event happened in her past, it wouldn't justify her actions towards the HOTs. She isn't that much of a tragic character for me, at least for now without a backstory.

But regarding the redemable part, she has a fucking lot of potential on that. Like truly, she can be redemed and become a fucking awesome character, that's one of the reasons she's one of my favorites (the other one would be the fact that i absolutely love an acidic, sarcastic arsehole like her).

But of course, the road she driving right now? Fucking dangerous, it could escalate reaaaaalllly fast. Either she calms the fuck down or someone needs to take her down.
I *really* don't want to see her pushing things to far with the drugs or forcing way too much in the prostitution thing. And when i say forcing i say arranging some guy to actually rape Maya or any other daughter who isn't on the prostitution gig... the main problem is that i can see her doing it.

 

[Lightaces]

Selling narcotics on college campuses is a serious felony so yeah realistically speaking she'd be screwed if caught.

No matter the state, selling outside the legally allowed framework is gonna be an issue, but if she stuck to weed a lot of places would, if not look the other way, have a certain level of leniency. Heroin is another thing all together, of course, but academics tend to be comfortable with marijuana. Using her position of power to pimp out her sisters is the one which will probably get her in the most trouble.

 

[RonWeasleyJr]

Did a replay of episode 4 last night, and I'm starting to think that Sage's "Rusty is living in a bubble" speech will end up applying to Sage herself.

She trusts Quinn and lets her run the HOTs, assuming that Quinn will always do the right thing and is running a clean operation. But in the flashback to her conversation with Tommy, basically every current member of the HOTs is either a client of Quinn's, or they're aware of the fact she sells weed and runs a prostitution ring.

So Sage is also in a "bubble" and doesn't realize that practically all of the senior HOTs are plotting against her. DPC appears to be setting Sage up for a hard fall.

You have to wonder if the HOTs will survive, with Sage "starting over" with Arieth and the new recruits, or if she'll choose to let the HOTs disband.