VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[moskyx]

I believe that premise is only due to the complaints made for AL, so DPC has taken precautions

I sincerely believed he was referring to sentimental dramas, refusals, relationships that become impossible, misunderstandings, betrayals etc ... and I don't see why there should be anything else in a school drama

and if so it's fine with me

and for now, although I didn't like how the first cycle with Maya and Josy ended, I'm satisfied
...

But it doesn't necessarily mean we'll get the kind of tragic, deadly ending we got with AL, as some people seem to think it could mean. After all, this game already has things like cheating, drug use and drug dealing, heartbreak, death of a parent (MC's Mom), death of a sibling (Jill's sister), strained family relations due to sexual orientation (Maya), all things that some people could find to be sensitive issues if such things have affected them personally. Even if people haven't experienced things like this in their lives, they could still be affected by the feelings and emotions expressed and the events that unfold, and if you're "not in a good place" then it could hit even harder.

There are still plenty of ways that DPC can play with peoples emotions that would warrant that warning at the beginning without having to kill off a character, and after what happened with AL, I really don't think they'll do that again.

There are lots of VN with those "soft" although serious conflicts and nobody ever complains about that. If DPC was going to stick to that kind of conflicts, he had 2 options: either swear BaDIK wouldn't be anything similar to AL, or to say nothing at all. Yet he stated this game could not be suitable for those in a dark situation in their lives. And I'd bet we all thought the worst when we read that.

I mean, coming from AL experience, anything softer would have been welcomed by everyone, there was no need to make that disclaimer if that was going to be the case. And, honestly, I think we all can already see potential sources of tragic moments for every LI in story (most of them Quinn-related). I sure hope he won't force players to make THE DECISION once again, but I'm almost sure our choices through the game will affect some characters in a dreadful way (OK, maybe not killing them, but destroying their lives and maybe MC's). Time will tell.

But this thoughts about 'how would he dare to do that again?' are part of the fun, aren't they?

 

[ZeusG]

Maya, Josy, and the MC could get put through the ringer, face all sorts of adversity and even stigma over their relationship should people find out, but they could still end up together in a happy relationship.

Who the hell wants this?
Hope there's an option to just cut both off them off soon.

 

[flippityflop]

Who the hell wants this?
Hope there's an option to just cut both off them off soon.

Plenty would want that.
Surprise! Not everyone on the planet shares your views and sentiments.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Who the hell wants this?

I do.

Hope there's an option to just cut both off them off soon.

There won't be. More likely that there will be chances to start things up again with one of them because they will still feature at various points in the game.

 

[felicemastronzo]

There are lots of VN with those "soft" although serious conflicts and nobody ever complains about that. If DPC was going to stick to that kind of conflicts, he had 2 options: either swear BaDIK wouldn't be anything similar to AL, or to say nothing at all. Yet he stated this game could not be suitable for those in a dark situation in their lives. And I'd bet we all thought the worst when we read that.

I mean, coming from AL experience, anything softer would have been welcomed by everyone, there was no need to make that disclaimer if that was going to be the case. And, honestly, I think we all can already see potential sources of tragic moments for every LI in story (most of them Quinn-related). I sure hope he won't force players to make THE DECISION once again, but I'm almost sure our choices through the game will affect some characters in a dreadful way (OK, maybe not killing them, but destroying their lives and maybe MC's). Time will tell.

But this thoughts about 'how would he dare to do that again?' are part of the fun, aren't they?

personally "the decision" on AL did not bother me, and if you remove the drama of the moment it doesn't change much since you choose between two LIs, abandoning the route of one of the two

for many players when we tell Derek if we still have feelings for Maya or Josy, that would already be "a farewell"

the problem is the unsolicited special effects

 

[Maviarab]

Who the hell wants this?
Hope there's an option to just cut both off them off soon.

Plenty of us want that.

I do however agree that both options should exist, with even possibly a third, where you actively stay friends but help them to stay together, as once again, despite me being flamed for this comment (where funninly enough no one else is for the same opinion, must be a newvie member thing I guess), the MC's reaction is ridiculous as he acts like a husband finding out his wife has been screwing his brother for 10 years.

So there should be an option (and should have been better writing) where you're perfectly happy and accepting of them being together without you and help them when needed. Everyone gets what they want then. That however, also adds three times the amount of work, and as I've also said before, peoples own personal opinions on betrayal and such rubbish is them projecting their own issues onto the characters. We are not playing us, we are playing a pre-definied character within a pre-defined storyline where Maya and Josy are one of the main storyline elements. Deal with that or don't.

The MC does a lot of dumb shit I don't agree with, but such as it is if I want to play the game.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Plenty of us want that.

I do however agree that both options should exist, with even possibly a third, where you actively stay friends but help them to stay together, as once again, despite me being flamed for this comment (where funninly enough no one else is for the same opinion, must be a newvie member thing I guess), the MC's reaction is ridiculous as he acts like a husband finding out his wife has been screwing his brother for 10 years.

So there should be an option (and should have been better writing) where you're perfectly happy and accepting of them being together without you and help them when needed. Everyone gets what they want then. That however, also adds three times the amount of work, and as I've also said before, peoples own personal opinions on betrayal and such rubbish is them pushing their own issues onto the game. We are not playing us, we are playing a pre-definied character within a pre-defined storyline where Maya and Josy are one of the main storyline elements. Deal with that or don't.

The MC does a lot of dumb shit I don't agree with, but such as it is if I want to play the game.

I doubt that DPC will ever give players the option to outright tell M&J to "F off" or to even tell them he doesn't to be around them again. Most likely there will be moments where, on the non-M&J path, there will be interactions with them that could lead to separate relationship paths, and if players continue to rebuff them there would be a some dialogue at the end of the game along the lines of, "I lost touch with Maya and Josy after college, but I hear they're both doing fine."

 

[ZeusG]

I doubt that DPC will ever give players the option to outright tell M&J to "F off" or to even tell them he doesn't to be around them again.

There is a *good* chance that one or both will get eliminated from the story

 

[felicemastronzo]

I doubt that DPC will ever give players the option to outright tell M&J to "F off" or to even tell them he doesn't to be around them again. Most likely there will be moments where, on the non-M&J path, there will be interactions with them that could lead to separate relationship paths, and if players continue to rebuff them there would be a some dialogue at the end of the game along the lines of, "I lost touch with Maya and Josy after college, but I hear they're both doing fine."

do you think all LIs will accompany MC until the end of the game?

I don't think, sooner or later drastic choices will come, then of course we can cross them around in college, but without interacting in an important way

especially for the two paired Maya / Josy and Jill / Bella, in my opinion it is likely that at some point to try to get to one we will have to greet the other

 

[Maviarab]

I doubt that DPC will ever give players the option to outright tell M&J to "F off" or to even tell them he doesn't to be around them again. Most likely there will be moments where, on the non-M&J path, there will be interactions with them that could lead to separate relationship paths, and if players continue to rebuff them there would be a some dialogue at the end of the game along the lines of, "I lost touch with Maya and Josy after college, but I hear they're both doing fine."

Suits me just fine haha....love them both, but if was forced to pick (on what we currently know about them/interaction) then Josy would win out....at the moment. But, that all comes down to how DPC fleshes them out further in the future.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

do you think all LIs will accompany MC until the end of the game?

I don't think, sooner or later drastic choices will come, then of course we can cross them around in college, but without interacting in an important way

especially for the two paired Maya / Josy and Jill / Bella, in my opinion it is likely that at some point to try to get to one we will have to greet the other

At the rate we're progressing with the story and these relationships, it's possible that some of them may come to a halt long before the end, but I'm hoping they'll be able to last until at least 2-3 episodes before the end so we can get the most out of them.

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

do you think all LIs will accompany MC until the end of the game?

I don't think, sooner or later drastic choices will come, then of course we can cross them around in college, but without interacting in an important way

especially for the two paired Maya / Josy and Jill / Bella, in my opinion it is likely that at some point to try to get to one we will have to greet the other

I think all LI will be a major part of the story until the end.

 

[chocolatemilkgames]

Plenty of us want that.

I do however agree that both options should exist, with even possibly a third, where you actively stay friends but help them to stay together, as once again, despite me being flamed for this comment (where funninly enough no one else is for the same opinion, must be a newvie member thing I guess), the MC's reaction is ridiculous as he acts like a husband finding out his wife has been screwing his brother for 10 years.

So there should be an option (and should have been better writing) where you're perfectly happy and accepting of them being together without you and help them when needed. Everyone gets what they want then. That however, also adds three times the amount of work, and as I've also said before, peoples own personal opinions on betrayal and such rubbish is them projecting their own issues onto the characters. We are not playing us, we are playing a pre-definied character within a pre-defined storyline where Maya and Josy are one of the main storyline elements. Deal with that or don't.

The MC does a lot of dumb shit I don't agree with, but such as it is if I want to play the game.

I don't think his reaction was necessarily in the wrong. People have a tendency to get more emotionally involved in something than expected, and when things don't turn out well they get hurt, even if they themselves can acknowledge that it's ridiculous that they are hurt, it doesn't negate it. I mean shit, look how much everybody here seems to hate Maya and Josy, and they don't even exist! People project their own feelings consistently, and if you wanna really look at it from a broad spectrum, his hurt feelings towards Maya and Josy could just as easily be his feelings towards his ex being brought up again, but not knowing how to acknowledge them.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I think all LI will be a major part of the story until the end.

It's funny, I'll often say that "DPC won't repeat what they did in AL", but yet I do sometimes think they'll repeat certain things, like if you're pursuing all LIs you'll be able to hold on to them all until near the end of the game. I also see the Bella/Jill situation possibly going the same way as the Melissa/Megan situation in that Jill will accept Bella and the MC doing things together because she can see that he is a good influence on her and is bringing her out of shell. Of course, that's also wishful thinking because I'm still hurting from that game.

 

[Madness-101]

At the rate we're progressing with the story and these relationships, it's possible that some of them may come to a halt long before the end, but I'm hoping they'll be able to last until at least 2-3 episodes before the end so we can get the most out of them.

What are you basing that on exactly? You don't know that nobody does only Pink himself knows that you will get the most out of them on each of their own routes so plenty for their relationships to go on.

 

[Ennoch]

Of course, that's also wishful thinking because I'm still hurting from that game.

Softy I'm already practicing digging graves at night in case my precious Bella turns out to be a serial killer. I wouldn't mind but she has to promise she would be careful!!

 

[-VQueS-]

I don't think his reaction was necessarily in the wrong. People have a tendency to get more emotionally involved in something than expected, and when things don't turn out well they get hurt, even if they themselves can acknowledge that it's ridiculous that they are hurt, it doesn't negate it. I mean shit, look how much everybody here seems to hate Maya and Josy, and they don't even exist! People project their own feelings consistently, and if you wanna really look at it from a broad spectrum, his hurt feelings towards Maya and Josy could just as easily be his feelings towards his ex being brought up again, but not knowing how to acknowledge them.

These "men" will hate everyone by the end of the game

 

[felicemastronzo]

I think all LI will be a major part of the story until the end.

for now the story is proceeding very slowly.

MC can only consider himself in a relationship with Maya & Josy, and not in all games
everything is suspended with the other 3 girls.

sooner or later the circle will have to tighten.
in AL (but equally in most games) there is no reverse, at some point the inside or outside is triggered.

then I repeat: they are all in college so they will meet often, but as friends, as fellow students, nothing more

 

[AchedCroissant]

GOTY first time playing and dude this is a Epic like Milfy City quality btw i love Maya

 

[Sculp]

does anyone know when the next episode will be? it is so good drpinkcake is a f***king legend