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Phynix

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I forgot the Josy sex scene, good call. As for Sage and her RP, it's a few points at most. Given the req's for the others, I really can't see it making any differnce personally. as you don't lose a lot of points.

As a side-note, this will annoy the dik lovers, but have you noticed a pattern yet? Bella does 'prefer' a chick, Jill's content is behind Chick affinity, Maya&Josy are Chick/Neutral....all of Sages content be got by Chick also....there is no LI (yet) where content is purely needs Dik. Just the side girls.
Until DPC decides to cut off the majority of Jill and Bella content on DIK path, i'm not starting a new playthrough. :LOL:
 

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Please don't quote opinion as fact. Please tell me how Sage's route is 'easier' being a dik, because it isn't. Still do everything with her, even still go to the movie night if not staying with her.
Sage route is easy, PERIOD?

The only reason I care about RP now is because I don't want to have to restart the game again IF DPC decided to open a can of whoop ass on us and take RP into account. I care about Sage.
 

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I have three routes
DIK = Sage and the bitches
Neutral = Josy and Maya
Chick = Jill and Bella
Some routes exclude others, for example if you make out with Sage at the DIKs party you can't go to see a movie with Maya.
 

zoyle

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I forgot the Josy sec scene, good call. As for Sage and her Rp, it's a few points at most. Given the req's for the others, I really can't see it making any differnce personally. As a side-niote, this will annoy the dik lovers, but have you noticed a pattern yet? Bella does prefer a chick, Jill's content is behind Chick affinity, Maya&Josy are chick/Neutral....all of Sages content be got by cchick also....
Maya and Josy content is really weird and contradictory. The Ep 1 Josy scene has extra scenes for DIK chars, not chick. The ep 3 Maya scene is different for MASSIVE DIK -or- MASSIVE CHICK vs any other status, or you get everything based on the RP threshold.

As a whole, it makes a lot of sense that early interactions and impressions and willingness to do stuff, or stuff with people who don't know MC well, is governed primarily by DIK/CHICK status, and that long-term interactions are governed by RP. But then you have Maya in particular oscillating around between all of them. I guess you could say that's due to her emotional turmoil or something, but it's probably just due to DPC trying different stuff out. Overall it seems like in Season 1, Maya/Josy were intended to reward 'neutral' affinity characters (with Isabella/Jill for Chick and Sage/all the casual sex encounters for DIK), but in Episode 5, Maya and Josy are definitely also in the chick column.

I think with a system like RP, it makes sense to use it more later in the game to reward consistent behavior. The early thresholds have mostly been easy to reach (Ch 3 Maya probably the most difficult? and still not hard), but the things they've changed have also been pretty minor - tweaks to sex scenes, a kiss, etc. If the decisions/options using RP are more pivotal down the road (and you'd think that's the reason of tracking how much various people like the MC), you would probably expect the thresholds to rise.

Honestly I think this is pretty good as a development plan. I recently played City of Broken Dreamers, which is really excellent! But one thing that really stood out to me is that there are so few opportunities to interact with many characters that achieving certain thresholds ends up coming down to one very specific decision or another. In Being a DIK, those kinds of options are usually governed by DIK/CHICK status, which you get a lot of opportunities to modify. Waiting for RP to accumulate to significant levels before utilizing it in a significant way makes sense, because it prevents situations from boiling down to "Did you choose option A or option B 4 chapters ago? If you chose yes, you can see scene X. If you did not, nope." Stuff makes more sense in storytelling and is more rewarding when it's a reward for consistency - CHICK/DIK works because you're constantly given the option to influence the score, and then you constantly get feedback based on what the score does for you. It works a lot better than individual-character affinity system until you have a LOT of history with a given character, when it starts to make more sense for that character to judge the protagonist based on their personal history rather than your recent public behaviors.

Just for example, imagine if there's some kind of scene where MC is trying to tell Sage what's going on with Quinn. It would make a lot more sense for how much Sage personally likes and trusts MC (her RP) to govern whether she chooses to trust him than his DIK/CHICK status. It's not hard to imagine hypotheticals for the others of similar impact where having RP be the governing factor simply makes more sense. There have not, thusfar, been very many situations where that is appropriate. As characters know each other longer, RP makes more and more sense as a game mechanic. You can also particularly imagine situations that use RP but where the RP threshold differs depending on DIK or CHICK status. A DIK character might need a higher proportion of available RP to convince Jil than a CHICK one, whether that be from reputation or a reflection of the way that MC's dialogue is different based on their DIK/CHICK score.
 
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true.

theoretically having voice acting would seem a great improvement, but to the test of the facts they always brought mediocre results (perhaps the best was on Awakening)
He already deactivated the voices of Jill and Bella from chapter one no? If anyone is still interested in finding out, just unren the voice files or replay the warning scenes.
 

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I think people just click on the Patreon link, see 7000+ Patrons and what the donation thresholds are and assume he's banking 6 figures monthly even though it almost certainly doesn't work that way.
6 figures no but 5 for sure and not in the lowest five if you get me...
 

zoyle

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Agreed that would make more sense yes in the long term as usually in a relationship, consistancy matters. Also as you say and what I said earlier, it's so easy to clear the RP threshold, what you lose with Sage being a Chick I don't think is enough to make a difference. However, if that continues into the future that may end up being more relevent.

And yes, CoBD is a top quality game indeed.

Thusfar the thresholds have been low, but also what they get you has mostly been low. I would expect the threshold for a major event or decision to be higher, especially if MC is asking someone to do something they would otherwise definitely not want to do.

I made the CoBD reference though to illustrate how games with very few available points make what seem like relatively minor choices much more significant. You have various Victoria content available only if you have 4+ points with her, and there are only like 5 points available, and one of them is in a swing choice (where you get -1 favor for +1 lust), so if you chose wrongly on exactly that one choice, you lose the option. The game is good anyway and most of the characters have enough interaction that that stuff doesn't pose a major issue, but it sort of shows where the holes can be in that kind of a system, and by using CHICK/DIK for the first half or whatever of the game, Being a DIK gets to skip over those problems.
 

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He already deactivated the voices of Jill and Bella from chapter one no? If anyone is still interested in finding out, just unren the voice files or replay the warning scenes.
There are playthroughs of the game with VA in PornHub, or at least there used to be.
:oops::oops::eek:

Were there any scenes being played?
or are you referring to the prologue?
Epidode 1 used to be fully voiced. Now it isn't, but the voices are still in the game files.
 

Wizard_Shiryuu

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:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Bella's voice !!!!!




how do i hear it? where do i find it?
Don't get too excited, it's not very good. I'm trying to find some videos right now, but I can't find any...
I pretty much always turn all the volumes to mute on adult games, though people keep saying this one has a pretty good soundtrack, I've never heard it.
That's a shame, it's really fitting with the game. Voice acting was bad, but the music is really good.
 

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Careful felice, if it's not what you imagined it may have consequences as to how you potray her.



Same. I can't stand half of the sound effects in games....mostly because usually they are cheap (and act badly when skipping dialogue on re-runs). Music in badik 'is good'...but again annoying after a while imo. Certainly better and more fitting than most VN's though for sure.
if you advise against it, I will leave it alone, in case I will recover it after her murderous rage explodes ..

BADIK's soundtrack is great, cinematic quality, I think you're missing something

normally the music of these games annoy me too
 
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I have three routes
DIK = Sage and the bitches
Neutral = Josy and Maya
Chick = Jill and Bella
Some routes exclude others, for example if you make out with Sage at the DIKs party you can't go to see a movie with Maya.
I have 20 routes.
 
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