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What's to say that her husband didn't cheat on her / leave her, or that perhaps she did? Didn't she says she 'forgave him' or something along those lines?
I'm quite sure Bella's husband only left but isn't dead. She's alluded to "when will he return?" at least once. This being DPC, something that important can't be a mistake.
I agree... I was just joking because of the 'dead husband' theories. Relax. :)

That said... if she was crazy enough to murder her husband with an axe, she certainly could be crazy enough to be in denial about it...
 
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Funnily enough, I get the feeling this game is slowly but steadily trying to steer away from those established norms.
At least that's the impression I got from some of MC's inner monologues and conversations he has with some of the characters.
I don't believe the game will ever prevent or block you from pursuing all LIs, as well as all existing side girls, but I sure as fuck hope there will be consequences to that.
If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.
 

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If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.
What happened in AL was just... lazy, for the lack of a better word.

By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.
 

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If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.
My assumption is that if there will be consequences for all the MC's whoring around (at least in the form of very, very angry LIs) we'll get fair warning first. So far, we've had no indication from any of the girls that the MC needs to stop 'dating around'. Maya and Josy give the MC a free pass while they're 'exploring' whatever the throuple is going to turn into, Jill and the MC talk about the fact he's seeing other girls before the tennis date, Sage obviously isn't going to throw a fit at this point since she's trying to pretend that its purely a sexual relationship, and Bella... well... Bella is a married woman, so she doesn't really have a leg to stand on as far as the MC being 'faithful' once they reach the point where they get physical.

At some point late in the story we may have to choose one relationship (monogamous or polyamorous), and at that point I'd expect the girls to make it very clear that they expect the MC to be faithful. If he's not after that, then, yeah.. bring on the consequences. I just don't see us being 'blindsided' with consequences before that point. Hell, you're probably right that even after a fair warning, the consequences might not be that severe because... porn game... but the various good/bad relationship endings of AL make me think otherwise.
 

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If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.
starting from the premise that in these games the concept of "perceived" NTR seems to be a very diluted version, it seems to me practically impossible that the game can end without it.

if MC fails with Maya and Josy there will be 99% NTR (not 100% because I believe the couple could break out anyway, but I remain humble)

if MC fails with Bella there will most likely be NTR

if MC fails with Sage there will probably be NTR

at present only with Jill there is no risk of this scenario, but the suitors are not lacking

and personally it also seems right to me, otherwise the girls we don't care about or with whom we fail should disappear into oblivion
 

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What happened in AL was just... lazy, for the lack of a better word.

By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.
I'm pretty sure Bacchus was talking about the relationship consequences in AL, not 'the choice' (which we get it... you hate). More relevant is whether you bang the bar sluts, the nurse, and/or your ex. At the end, the LI you're with finds out... some get upset about it, some don't, and with certain girls it can lead to exactly what you're talking about, with your chosen LI doing precisely what you said... 'telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants'.

So, DPC has absolutely already set that precendent.

The Derek thing I could absolutely see happening, too... and yes, it would bet a total gut-punch, especially if you chose him to stay with in Ch4.
 
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What happened in AL was just... lazy, for the lack of a better word.

By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.
I’m curious to see degree of choice impacts outside of who MC ends up with.
 

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Funnily enough, I get the feeling this game is slowly but steadily trying to steer away from those established norms.
At least that's the impression I got from some of MC's inner monologues and conversations he has with some of the characters.
I don't believe the game will ever prevent or block you from pursuing all LIs, as well as all existing side girls, but I sure as fuck hope there will be consequences to that.
This is surely not a harem game, dont worry, there will consequences, no doubt about it. and the game is already preventing you from, one specific path. the threesome, or polygamy path with Josy and Maya. whether there will be optional solo route for them, is yet to be seen, but i won't be surprised, if the "let's just be friend", and later confirming your decision to derek, about that "you moved on", decisions is in fact a dead end for Josy and Maya. Acting Lessons, allowed the player to close down relationships, I don't see reason to believe Badik would be different. However, AL was a much shorter game, so I can see that Badik will allow the player to be more flexible, and these permanent decision will come out later, after all we are still in early stage, as much as a surprise for some people, considering that we soon to be at ep6 . :D
 

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By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.
I can definitely see this happening eventually. But as I said, not this early. Right now I'm more worried about the Chick/Dick meter, if in every episode we have a major decision, soon there will be no decision left.
it would be nice to see an answer about this from DPC.
 

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By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.
We had that in AL too when Leah reveals all the stuff the MC has done with other girls and it obliterates any chance at a relationship with Megan or Melissa, and that didn't go down well either.

Upsetting the established order of the MC's life and essentially giving players a "jerk MC" ending, even if he has objectively been a bit of a jerk, is a low blow for people who want to have a little bit of their cake and eat it too. Even if they can't get everyone, they at least want to get someone and without having a massive blowup with the ones they don't get. It may not accurately reflect real life, but it's not meant to and that's what makes these games so appealing.
 

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starting from the premise that in these games the concept of "perceived" NTR seems to be a very diluted version, it seems to me practically impossible that the game can end without it.

if MC fails with Maya and Josy there will be 99% NTR (not 100% because I believe the couple could break out anyway, but I remain humble)

if MC fails with Bella there will most likely be NTR

if MC fails with Sage there will probably be NTR

at present only with Jill there is no risk of this scenario, but the suitors are not lacking

and personally it also seems right to me, otherwise the girls we don't care about or with whom we fail should disappear into oblivion
To be fair he did it with Rena in AL so hardly should be big issue
I’d like to see character epilogues for main and side
So etc Jill/mc(positive), Jill set up with rusty(positive), Jill lonely (slightly sad)
 

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This is surely not a harem game, dont worry, there will consequences, no doubt about it. and the game is already preventing you from, one specific path. the threesome, or polygamy path with Josy and Maya. whether there will be optional solo route for them, is yet to be seen, but i won't be surprised, if the "let's just be friend", and later confirming your decision to derek, about that "you moved on", decisions is in fact a dead end for Josy and Maya. Acting Lessons, allowed the player to close down relationships, I don't see reason to believe Badik would be different. However, AL was a much shorter game, so I can see that Badik will allow the player to be more flexible, and these permanent decision will come out later, after all we are still in early stage, as much as a surprise for some people, considering that we soon to be at ep6 . :D
such a situation is acceptable for the linearity of the game, and it is likely to be so

but I wouldn't talk about consequences, cause and effect

the player could be forced to accept the path of friendship only (it is not that the refusal gives pleasure), and also letting go of the confusion of the moment, why should he confess to the brother of one of the two girls what he feels?
 

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To be fair he did it with Rena in AL so hardly should be big issue
I’d like to see character epilogues for main and side
So etc Jill/mc(positive), Jill set up with rusty(positive), Jill lonely (slightly sad)
You forgot 'Jill set up with Derek'. Now THAT would be hilarious.
 
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oh and one more thing, peoples also have to understand one simple thing, this is not an actual RPG! .it has elements of it no doubt, but The decisions and consequences will be limited in some degree, we basically reading a book, or an old fashioned pen and paper and dice, Role-Playing book. The story was set in the stone, you just see different chapters, based on how lucky you were with the dice, and with some of your choices.

"There is a crossroad in front of you, if you want to go left, go to page 136. if you want to go right, go to page 231. ".

in my opinion, this is the closest description of Badik.
 
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He's talking about conversations that already happened in Chapter 5...
me too...

Why would MC trust Derek 100% in that case?

if he had an interest in Maya would he be sure Derek wouldn't tell her something and put her on the defensive? and likewise for Josy

Couldn't trusting Derek also have consequences?
 

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me too...

Why would MC trust Derek 100% in that case?

if he had an interest in Maya would he be sure Derek wouldn't tell her something and put her on the defensive? and likewise for Josy

Couldn't trusting Derek also have consequences?
Okay... I think I'm not understanding your point here... because (depending on your conversation choice) the MC already did exactly that at the end of chapter 5, telling Derek he's moved on. Are you questioning the MC's motivation for doing so, after he's already (potentially) done it?

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To be fair he did it with Rena in AL so hardly should be big issue
I’d like to see character epilogues for main and side
So etc Jill/mc(positive), Jill set up with rusty(positive), Jill lonely (slightly sad)
I think that's what we're going to see depending on the choices we make; one happy ending for each LI with the MC, a happy ending for each LI without the MC, and a sad/not so great ending for each LI without the MC, then the ending a player gets will be a mixture of these. For example, the MC gets a happy ending with Sage, Jill gets a happy ending, M&J get separate sad endings, and Bella gets a sad ending, or the MC gets a happy ending with Josy, Sage and Jill get sad endings, and Maya and Bella get happy endings, etc, etc.
 

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such a situation is acceptable for the linearity of the game, and it is likely to be so

but I wouldn't talk about consequences, cause and effect

the player could be forced to accept the path of friendship only (it is not that the refusal gives pleasure), and also letting go of the confusion of the moment, why should he confess to the brother of one of the two girls what he feels?
Because He is his best friend?! it is a way for player to confirm his decision. If it's Rejection, well then your earlier decision set you to that direction in the first place. In that regard, I do have to admit I don't have knowledge, I was not rejected, so I dont know how and what way the conversation with Derek changed , but it is not excluded it will have effect in that way too for the future. and that is the purpose of the conversation, I assume.
 
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