VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

Ahhh my friend, the last sentence is the clencher. Fluff = money, and filler due to running out of ideas to progress the actual story. Money is the One Ring to Rule Them All and all that. The longer it takes, the more he milks from patrons. If you bought the game on steam, even when done, it might cost you $49 bucks with DLC or however he will add seasons. On Patreon, a dude like DPC is raking in gawd awful amounts of cash for putting out what was a fluff filled non starter update. Had you been even a $10 supporter for those 5 months you would have paid for the whole game on steam. I get it that he needs support to make the game, but his bank must be pretty flush by now, and greed is always a great motivator.

I feel like the money aspect may be a factor, but in a different way.

It's not that they can "milk" people more by dragging things out, but more that, much like major companies producing consumer products, money talks more than people and even if their consumers have legitimate issues, complaints, etc, it matters little because they're still making a profit and even increasing their profits.

I see a lot of devs who are very receptive to their patrons, and even to the freeloading players here, when it comes to feedback and not all of it has to be taken, of course, like when people start asking for fetishes and kinks that the dev simply will not do, but they will at least listen, and I don't think DPC listens to anyone but themselves which can be a problem, and sometimes I think you need that outside voice, particularly when it's constructive and trying to help.

I wholeheartedly agree.

I don't know at what level he will respond to his patrons, but I certainly think it would carry more weight if a $30 patreon criticised something compared to a $5 one. I also believe the game is only out for the $30 tier as of now, and the earlier you strike, the less comments and the more chance he will notice and consider it. I'm on the lowest tier now, and I don't think I will increase, but the only way to promote change is on Patreon.

Well, if you do, choose your words carefully because they seem to have a very itchy ban-trigger finger when it comes to criticism. I'm also not sure what words, if any, they would respond to as they seem quite content with how things are going and are not much inclined to make big, sweeping changes to what they've already done.

 

[always86]

LOL !!!! sooo Jill here had 3 years old right? hahahahaha oh my god, his sister doesn't even look like the MC's mother



No dude, she said she could be her mother, if she had had him with 14-15 years of course

We don’t know that the picture is of Jill or her sister. We can presume it is significant to her. Could be her Mum and sister.

Also Jill would probably have been at most 2 when her sister left (presuming she is 20/21 now). We know MC was born 19 years ago. However old Lynette was before she died/ left, we know it was at least 9 months after leaving home.

Possible she left after MC was born for some reason (related to father legal trouble perhaps) she then dies a few years later, allowing Jill to be a bit older and that to be her in the photo. But that is very much putting the cart before the horse. We don’t have anything that would suggest that yet.

I think DPC likes his plot twists. I think he likes laying the seeds for them. I hope the Aunt Jill theory is wrong because I want happy endings for everyone including the main LIs on both CHICK and DIK paths. The way this chapter has gone makes me thing pure happy endings are off the cards. Which I for one think sucks. Still fingers crossed I am wrong

 

[Gladheim]

We don’t know that the picture is of Jill or her sister. We can presume it is significant to her. Could be her Mum and sister.

Also Jill would probably have been at most 2 when her sister left (presuming she is 20/21 now). We know MC was born 19 years ago. However old Lynette was before she died/ left, we know it was at least 9 months after leaving home.

Possible she left after MC was born for some reason (related to father legal trouble perhaps) she then dies a few years later, allowing Jill to be a bit older and that to be her in the photo. But that is very much putting the horse before the cart. We don’t have anything that would suggest that yet.

I think DPC likes his plot twists. I think he likes laying the seeds for them. I hope the Aunt Jill theory is wrong because I want happy endings for everyone including the main LIs on both CHICK and DIK paths. The way this chapter has gone makes me thing pure happy endings are off the cards. Which I for one think sucks. Still fingers crossed I am wrong

The youngest has the face of Jill and the older is very very similar to the current Jill

The MC mom does not look like them, maybe only in the eyes, but Bella and Maya have them almost the same too

 

[g6107419]

I have lost my Ep5 save while moving house, anyone else have a complete ep5 save?

 

[.Black Panther.]

Believe me, in the very very very strange case that Jill was my ( MC ) aunt, having lived all my life without knowing it and having fallen in love with her, I would not care, you do not choose who you love.

Another thing is to have lived your life knowing her as your aunt, that is already incest and in real life it would be weird

All I know is that DPC is unpredictable. will be surprised exactly when you do not expect it or do not even think about it. He knows how to play with emotions.

 

[moskyx]

Story should always take precedent over everything else and the features that were in this game through the first 5 episodes were already on a level that no other game has reached, and I certainly don't think anyone was bored of them as to require the kind of features we have now.

When it comes to the mansion repair, I really don't think we needed this level of involvement. The MC could have simply spoken to Rusty or even gathered all the DIKs to explain the plan moving forward, then we get in to the free-roam portion and the MC could have gone to each of their rooms just as we did, only this time he can offer to help them clean up and he can only do it so many times per free-roam, but by the end of the episode all rooms will have been fixed up. There could even be some mini-games here like the "painting" mechanic, but that's all that was really needed.

As for the DnG game, it almost feels as though it was so big as to quiet those who liked the first one and were apparently asking for more. Perhaps DPC did it this way so that people won't ask again, or if they do he can ignore them because he gave them what they wanted, but it was still unnecessary to devote such a large chunk of the game to something so inconsequential.

Also, is that much you have to pay to be able to PM DPC on Patreon?

You probably know what happens with almost every game somewhat succesful. People start to ask for their favourite fetish and gameplay to be included. It seems that, at first, DPC tried to satisfy both "classic, story-based VN" and "freeroam/openworld" lovers, and he kind of did it, plus all the minigames (brawler, puzzle, drink games and class tests) as a bonus. Now, what are the other big gaming niches that hadn't been touched? Resource management and RPGM. That's what we have now. It's obvious to me that he's now aiming for an "all-in-one" game that can be liked for absolutely every kind of gamers and that means his development time can't be as story-focused as it may have been in the first chapters. That's not what you and me might like but surely numbers prove both of us "wrong". He can afford "losing" some VN players if at the same time he's expanding his player base into other directions. Of course that means it's possible that what could have been a 9'5 VN may end like a 7'5 VN, but it would be a solid 8'5 overall game. At least, that's his goal, in my opinion.

 

[godkingxerxes]

And i didn't imply people can't take criticism. All i said that theory is still up for debate yet a lot of people believe it's 100% not happening which is funny to me

It is 100% not happening though. We've seen Jill's dad, he's not in his 60s, he doesn't have a daughter that would be in her 40s.

Lynette and Jill are not siblings.

Now I'm not saying they can't be related or connected in some way because Lynette comes from a rich family and since her family name has been kept from us, when it is revealed it will most likely be connected to some other character. Whether that's Jill and the Royce's, Rusty and the Burger's, Sage and her equally wealthy but as yet unnamed family, or just some random rich family that has a preppy member.

 

[Nobodyforrealbro]

Guys I try to use the 6.1 patch and I did exactly as the instructions told me to. I copied and pasted the files into the game folder, but the version on the main menu still says 5.2. When I try to start ep. 6 the first scene starts, but as soon as the dialogue shows up it gives me an error.

 

[moskyx]

Guys I try to use the 6.1 patch and I did exactly as the instructions told me to. I copied and pasted the files into the game folder, but the version on the main menu still says 5.2. When I try to start ep. 6 the first scene starts, but as soon as the dialogue shows up it gives me an error.

If you downloaded 5.2 from here you'll have to download the full 6.0, the patch won't work over that version

 

[Arigon]

I feel like the money aspect may be a factor, but in a different way.

It's not that they can "milk" people more by dragging things out, but more that, much like major companies producing consumer products, money talks more than people and even if their consumers have legitimate issues, complaints, etc, it matters little because they're still making a profit and even increasing their profits.

I see a lot of devs who are very receptive to their patrons, and even to the freeloading players here, when it comes to feedback and not all of it has to be taken, of course, like when people start asking for fetishes and kinks that the dev simply will not do, but they will at least listen, and I don't think DPC listens to anyone but themselves which can be a problem, and sometimes I think you need that outside voice, particularly when it's constructive and trying to help.



Well, if you do, choose your words carefully because they seem to have a very itchy ban-trigger finger when it comes to criticism. I'm also not sure what words, if any, they would respond to as they seem quite content with how things are going and are not much inclined to make big, sweeping changes to what they've already done.

Definitely true. I got ZERO warning insta ban, but then my opinion was flagrant, detailed, and non-complimentary.

 

[moskyx]

Definitely true. I got ZERO warning insta ban, but then my opinion was flagrant, detailed, and non-complimentary.

I'm guessing that also repetitive?

 

[Nobodyforrealbro]

If you downloaded 5.2 from here you'll have to download the full 6.0, the patch won't work over that version

Please tell me I'll still have my saves.

 

[Arigon]

LOL !!!! sooo Jill here had 3 years old right? hahahahaha oh my god, his sister doesn't even look like the MC's mother



No dude, she said she could be her mother, if she had had him with 14-15 years of course

Bella is 36.
During her OMG discussion with Jill and MC, she states she was a freshman 18 years ago. Ergo- 18 year old freshman + 18 years ago = 36

 

[Arigon]

I'm guessing that also repetitive?

topic varied but gripes, there were a few

 

[asad135]

And also with swyper Nicole & Nora?

how do I get the Nora scene? I’m at macallens bar but don’t see her anywhere?

i edited it with the save editor adding "ep5_done"

You must be registered to see the links

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Definitely true. I got ZERO warning insta ban, but then my opinion was flagrant, detailed, and non-complimentary.

That's why you have to finesse these things, no matter how strongly you feel about them; be critical, but also measured.

 

[AL.d]

We got it, pirate, you're after his games and his $$$ for nothing at all. Keep it up and break a leg! Not an easy task, I guess.

Calling someone a pirate with insulting undertones in a.... pirate forum. Like going into a mob gathering to call them out for not being perfectly lawful good citizens. Gave me a chuckle.

By the way someone who has purchased a game, is by definition not a pirate of said game.

 

[Arigon]

Choosing between sage (sick time) & jill (birthday date) was very hard. Why the hell there is no option to postpone a date to later time.

Because the process to limit your choices has already begun long since. You can not hope to have them all (no harem), and DPC will let you choose your poison occasionally, so in this case, your Chik/Dik didn't choose for you, you did.

 

[DatBoit]

Well, if you do, choose your words carefully because they seem to have a very itchy ban-trigger finger when it comes to criticism. I'm also not sure what words, if any, they would respond to as they seem quite content with how things are going and are not much inclined to make big, sweeping changes to what they've already done.

I'm not too worried about that particular aspect; I'm confident I would find a way to word it that makes it constructive criticism. Although, like you, I don't think it would necessarily lead to something, but writing directly on his Patreon page might be the crucial step in giving it the chance at least.

Unfortunely, DPC strikes me as quite stubborn and wants things to be exactly the way he wants. For example, with his resources, it seems ridiculous that he hasn't hired anyone to help him with development at this point. Ignoring the content of the last update, time between episodes is the one thing he can improve on, if you ask me.

 

[.Black Panther.]

Bella is 36.
During her OMG discussion with Jill and MC, she states she was a freshman 18 years ago. Ergo- 18 year old freshman + 18 years ago = 36

Who would have thought that there was a relationship between Maya and Jesse ?!
All I know is that DPC is unpredictable. will be surprised exactly when you do not expect it or do not even think about it. He knows how to play with emotions.