VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

Let's be honest here, if this story operated more on things that make sense and are closer to reality, particularly with regards to choices affecting relationships and lewd scenes, then it would probably be a lot better. There are many moments like this for me, and one such example is the decision in Ep 2 to go back to Maya or stay at the party.

By choosing to go back to Maya you don't dance with Sage which, I guess, means he sneaked past her on his way out in order to avoid her, but what's to say he couldn't also dance with Sage before going back to Maya? It's not like he's on a time limit and his chance to dance with Maya will be gone if he doesn't get back by a certain time; is he Cinderella?

Let's say that he's called over for that shot battle at around 10, it probably wouldn't take him long to get to the DIK mansion, 10-15 mins maximum, then the 3 shot battle probably takes about 5 minutes. He says he'll head back to Maya but on his way out he's grabbed by Sage who pulls him onto the dance floor and this, plus them making out, probably takes up about 5-10 minutes, which means he could be back at the dorm well before 11 and Maya would surely still be up. Hell, the MC could also fuck Sarah and have plenty of time to get back to Maya, dance with her, then finger her.

However, game logic dictates we must choose even though, realistically all these things could be done and you could simply leave it up to a different sort of player choice. Instead of automatically not dancing with Sage, the MC could be on their way out when Sage grabs them and then it's up to the player to choose to do so or not, then they encounter Sarah, or Melanie, or Riona, and once again get to choose between having sex with Sarah or not. It's a much cleaner system, in my mind, and one where you're not scratching your head so much wondering why certain things don't make sense whether you did or didn't do them.

I agree with you, but they are two different mechanisms, one thing is the choices between which relations with the LI to carry on and another those that allow certain scenes or not.

the first mechanism is central to the narrative of the game, and we have to accept that it is much more simplified and superficial, in real life the lie wins very often.

while the one with the sex scenes is simply the lure for us to play and replay and get lost in the labyrinth of possibilities.

on the first part there should be more consistency than on the second, which in the end is just fun, like collecting renders

 

[felicemastronzo]

Telling Sage you didn't want to teach her guitar was definitely a rejection, telling Jill you already promised a sick friend that you'd look after them, not so much. The worst thing is we're going to have to wait another 6 months or so to find out.

EDIT: Didn't read that properly - yeah blowing Sage off when she's sick might be a little more dangerous.

but the choice on the guitar course was more "honest"

if you are interested in Sage you have no reason to refuse, this one instead has an immediate price, so I find it similar to the famous fire

 

[shazba]

As a deviation to the current course of philosophy, did Cathy turn it up a notch with those jeans or what!



When she asked in the car if she should dress to accentuate her ass or her tits, mc stayed true to his name and went down the assman route. I thought it had influenced her new attire. Replayed and chose tits, didn't changed this scene - opportunity missed there I believe...

 

[DavDR]

If she does then it's another black mark on DPC's writing because they'd be going against their own established characterisation in order to force drama.

The MC tells her he's going to see a sick friend, this kind of thing should affirm in her mind that he's a nice guy and Tybalt is wrong about him as this is the kind of caring and compassion she should like in someone. It shouldn't make her think that him refusing her means it's not meant to be and that she should stop seeing him and not even tell him why.

This is one of my major problems with this episode.

A player on the Jill path would be inclined to keep his commitment to Sage, as we've come to expect that Jill will react favorably to such a choice.

It's the same as an additional scene in the cafeteria with Sage if you have CHIK affinity. No one who's been on the Sage path would ever suspect that you needed CHIK for Sage.

These choices just seem like unnecessary pitfalls that DPC threw in to trip up the player.

 

[shazba]

This is one of my major problems with this episode.

A player on the Jill path would be inclined to keep his commitment to Sage, as we've come to expect that Jill will react favorably to such a choice.

It's the same as an additional scene in the cafeteria with Sage if you have CHIK affinity. No one who's been on the Sage path would ever suspect that you needed CHIK for Sage.

These choices just seem like unnecessary pitfalls that DPC threw in to trip up the player.

It's just another curveball of life.

 

[TrainHardnett]

This is one of my major problems with this episode.

A player on the Jill path would be inclined to keep his commitment to Sage, as we've come to expect that Jill will react favorably to such a choice.

It's the same as an additional scene in the cafeteria with Sage if you have CHIK affinity. No one who's been on the Sage path would ever suspect that you needed CHIK for Sage.

These choices just seem like unnecessary pitfalls that DPC threw in to trip up the player.

Or you know just be Neutral affinity, dunno why so many people don't even register it as a thing that exists and you can be on for scenes to play.

 

[markyzac]

Can anyone help me which is the last chapter as of now

 

[Giaochino]

Jill feels rejected, sees how a person who begins to feel something strong prefers to go with another. She sees that as a sign of lack of interest and therefore no longer has to go through the difficult situation of talking to him about blackmail and keeping it to herself, protecting her friend and also herself from that bad moment that we remember She did not want to go through . When you go to the date with her is when you realize how bad it is to tell you about the blackmail, she does not want to go through that, she does not want to stop seeing you but she has no choice. That is why it is so interesting to see the two options.

I disliked this part. In my opinion DPC failed Jill persona with this scene.
With this forced choice Jill came out as a spoiled person, not the caring, understanding and tolerant she was in the previous episodes.
You can't show up to a friend (more of a friend at this point) who's busting his ass fixing is new "house" with no warning or previous arrangement and expect him to drop everything for a picnic date. She didn't even asked MC if he was free through a message nor tried to reschedule for later or other day.

I do understand the need for this choice though. Jill and Sage had no common ground on campus, they never interact with each other so it came down to a single choice. But I would have liked it to be later in the game and more "organic" when MC is either chick or dick without a two way choice. if MC is "chick" Jill shows up, if "dick" MC go to Sage.

 

[Gladheim]

I disliked this part. In my opinion DPC failed Jill persona with this scene.
With this forced choice Jill came out as a spoiled person, not the caring, understanding and tolerant she was in the previous episodes.
You can't show up to a friend (more of a friend at this point) who's busting his ass fixing is new "house" with no warning or previous arrangement and expect him to drop everything for a picnic date. She didn't even asked MC if he was free through a message nor tried to reschedule for later or other day.

I do understand the need for this choice though. Jill and Sage had no common ground on campus, they never interact with each other so it came down to a single choice. But I would have liked it to be later in the game and more "organic" when MC is either chick or dick without a two way choice. if MC is "chick" Jill shows up, if "dick" MC go to Sage.

If I remember correctly it was the weekend and it was a surprise, a surprise cannot be warned

As a deviation to the current course of philosophy, did Cathy turn it up a notch with those jeans or what!

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This changes during classes, at least in my case Chaty wears a very short and very revealing dress

 

[boogiecookie]

does anyone know how to get 100% for maya & josy's scene outdoors? i only get 50% & i'm on the neutral path - dunno where i went wrong.

 

[Giaochino]

If I remember correctly it was the weekend and it was a surprise, a surprise cannot be warned

"Hey are you free tomorrow afternoon?"
"Something came up. Can be free for late afternon I guess. Why?"
"Excellent. Will be there!"

I mean it's not difficult checking someone schedule.

 

[TrainHardnett]

does anyone know how to get 100% for maya & josy's scene outdoors? i only get 50% & i'm on the neutral path - dunno where i went wrong.

From what I understood in episode 3 you should not help maya with her tasks.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

does anyone know how to get 100% for maya & josy's scene outdoors? i only get 50% & i'm on the neutral path - dunno where i went wrong.

Go to the threesome with Riona and Quinn instead of staying with Maya in Ep 3 as this avoids getting a thighjob from Maya which Josy will do here in Ep 6 to fulfill that requirement for the list.

 

[boogiecookie]

From what I understood in episode 3 you should not help maya with her tasks.

thank you!

i'm so reluctant to replay though, the free roams in the beginning are so grindy

 

[boogiecookie]

Go to the threesome with Riona and Quinn instead of staying with Maya in Ep 3 as this avoids getting a thighjob from Maya which Josy will do here in Ep 6 to fulfill that requirement for the list.

thank you!

i'll replay after i take a break - i've been playing the past few nights trying to buy different portraits from jacob & the library book free roam is giving me recurrent nightmares

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

In the third date, as she says on the first date, the third date is when you are supposed to have sex, in Jill's words.

In that same quote it's implied that she doesn't like that rule. She'll do it when she's ready, and I think she's been ready since the MC stayed with her at Bella's.

 

[shazba]

"Hey are you free tomorrow afternoon?"
"Something came up. Can be free for late afternon I guess. Why?"
"Excellent. Will be there!"

I mean it's not difficult checking someone schedule.

Lots of girls love doing something nice and spontaneous for their guy. It didn't work out this time, she took it well.

"Oh... Yeah, of course. I understand."
"I didn't plan anything big. It was spontaneous."
"You're allowed to have other plans. Haha..."
"So, uh. Happy birthday."

She just got caught off guard:

"(I can't blurt it out now... Crap...)"
"(Maybe it's a sign?)"
"(Maybe it's best to not even tell him...)"

That afterthought was immediately after she was momentarily disappointed. I'm sure it will all be fine.

Imagine if we analysed every conversation in real life the way we do this game!

 

[Gladheim]

Lots of girls love doing something nice and spontaneous for their guy. It didn't work out this time, she took it well.

"Oh... Yeah, of course. I understand."
"I didn't plan anything big. It was spontaneous."
"You're allowed to have other plans. Haha..."
"So, uh. Happy birthday."

She just got caught off guard:

"(I can't blurt it out now... Crap...)"
"(Maybe it's a sign?)"
"(Maybe it's best to not even tell him...)"

That afterthought was immediately after she was momentarily disappointed. I'm sure it will all be fine.

Imagine if we analysed every conversation in real life the way we do this game!

Actually she had prepared something "big" and that is why it hurts so much to reject her on other routes ... poor jill

P.D: In real life we cannot read the thoughts of women, if that were the case now I myself would be married with 5 children and a harem of lovers behind, well the latter maybe not xd

 

[shazba]

Actually she had prepared something "big" and that is why it hurts so much to reject her on other routes ... poor jill

P.D: In real life we cannot read the thoughts of women, if that were the case now I myself would be married with 5 children and a harem of lovers behind, well the latter maybe not xd

If you could read the thoughts of women you'd be sleeping with one eye open!

 

[moskyx]

Lots of girls love doing something nice and spontaneous for their guy. It didn't work out this time, she took it well.

"Oh... Yeah, of course. I understand."
"I didn't plan anything big. It was spontaneous."
"You're allowed to have other plans. Haha..."
"So, uh. Happy birthday."

She just got caught off guard:

"(I can't blurt it out now... Crap...)"
"(Maybe it's a sign?)"
"(Maybe it's best to not even tell him...)"

That afterthought was immediately after she was momentarily disappointed. I'm sure it will all be fine.

Imagine if we analysed every conversation in real life the way we do this game!

Well, in real life we can choose what to say exactly to avoid this kind of misunderstandings. Most of us would have given more details about our plans, ths reducing the chances of Jill feeling plainly rejected. Of course, we don't have that insight of her thoughts afterwards