VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

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shazba said:
Even though Jill likes the MC, she knows he's hanging with the wrong crowd (in her opinion), she has already written off the DIKs based on her experience with Rusty and seeing the others' behavior. So when Tybalt gives her these stories, it only fuels her concerns.

She's torn between what she feels and what she thinks is the truth (as told to her by Tybalt).

She's preoccupied in the auditorium and focuses on her music concerns before intending to talk about the Tybalt issue but then loses her window - she kinda procrastinates about it (who wants to have that kind of conversation anyway). The fact that he showed up with a black eye didn't help his cause much...

She unintentionally meets him at the library and the Tybalt conversation is not one to have in front of friends.

She enjoys his company on the picnic but the Tybalt conversation would have been hanging over her head the whole time. She knew she had to initiate it but she would have been dreading it. When the MC goes to kiss her she fucks up her entire approach to the subject and even admits it came out wrong. Then she tells him and he reacts.

In her consistent motherly fashion, she was trying to protect the mc from trouble, trouble that she believes he caused and he even admits to.

There's nothing wrong or poorly written about any of this. She's a 21 year old woman falling in love but the target of her affections is setting off red flags all over the place. Is he a trouble maker or is he a victim? But she wants him! Emotions can be motherfuckers, making it hard to see straight and to think straight.
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by making an effort, we can accept everything.

but it's not like Jill to cover up a crime without even hearing the other version IMMEDIATELY!
not even the excuse of blinding love is valid, because she does it anyway, whatever her relationship with MC is.

but even with the justification of love, it makes no sense. it is an extreme sacrifice that is unrealistic. Jill would decide to lose MC (not dating him, not talking to him again means giving up on him) for fear of losing him, it makes no sense. it's drama to have drama
all the more so since it's a decision that doesn't last a minute after Jill has expressed it


if Jill believed Tybalt, as it seems, it would be much more real that she no longer wants to deal with MC
 
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felicemastronzo said:
it's a bit like the fate of all threats here

the same goes for Burke

absolutely it would also be acceptable in the context of a "comedy", but then it is inevitable not to take seriously the threat they should represent.
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This isn't a comedy though. As Kellerman pointed out, DPC is going to throw darkness into anything he does. And the juxtaposition of the dark threat with the buffoonish comedy just doesn't work. Viable antagonist would also eliminate the need for these awful plot contrivances, leaving the story much stronger.
 
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This isn't a comedy though. As Kellerman pointed out, DPC is going to throw darkness into anything he does. And the juxtaposition of the dark threat with the buffoonish comedy just doesn't work. Viable antagonist would also eliminate the need for these awful plot contrivances, leaving the story much stronger.
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Unfortunately

it's the double context that doesn't work

Burke cannot be the cockolded husband and simultaneously the criminal mastermind of the BR.

Tybalt can't be the one who snacks with his sex toy watermelon and a serious threat to MC and Jill's relationship at the same time.

no one in the game takes them seriously and should I take them seriously as a player?
 
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DavDR said:
This isn't a comedy though. As Kellerman pointed out, DPC is going to throw darkness into anything he does. And the juxtaposition of the dark threat with the buffoonish comedy just doesn't work. Viable antagonist would also eliminate the need for these awful plot contrivances, leaving the story much stronger.
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Except we don't know that. DPC hasn't written 5 games that all end in tragedy, he hasn't written 3 games that end in tragedy, he hasn't even written 2 games that end in tragedy... He's written one game that had a singular, unavoidable tragic element.

The dark threat has been invented by the people on this board. It's a comedy drama, you gotta stop flinching at your shadow and enjoy it for what it is (or don't enjoy it depending on taste), but to keep fearing calamity where it is not is only ruining your own experience (unless you get off on the adrenaline rush, in which case, fear away).

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no one in the game takes them seriously and should I take them seriously as a player?
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The answer is, no, don't take it so seriously. Enjoy it for what it is, a comedy with over-the-top drama. Fuck as many women as you can and get out before the house burns down! :p

And if you're in to necro, go back and fuck the charred corpses. :eek:
 
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Kz87 said:
The main antagonist is Vinny, imho. The scenes, where both him and MC stand on the stairway in the DIKs house in front of everyone, hints about it.
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Either that or DPC just reused the scene backround to save time.
 
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Kz87 said:
With exact same stance and narration? Hardly coincidence.
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Narration? They weren't at all similar. The stance just means that all he has to do is insert the MC, with no additional posing. I've noticed the same technique used several times in the game.
 
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Holy Bacchus said:
Derek just seems so cartoonish to me that it's hard for me to like him much. His buffoonish and clownish behaviour doesn't entertain me because it seems too outlandish and I'm honestly a bit tired of these idiot savant best friend/wingman of the MC characters in these games.
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I really don't like the character, what he does and what he says

if he was a real person it might be fun to meet him every now and then, but not more than once a week between meals

sure that if now he goes from funny to depressed I don't know how he can go on
 
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Jill Royce said:
TWEVLE?????
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Yeah, I was born in '72. Been around a few years, just haven't had as many birthdays. The downside to this is people making jokes about the game being updated on my birthday, as was demonstrated in this thread. For most folks, that's really a trivial affair. For some of us.a nightmare. ;)
 
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N7 said:
Happy Holidays!

It's been a very weird and possibly dark year for all of us.
But even when things are dark in our lives, we should appreciate the things that aren't and find something that keeps us going.
For me, creating this game has been a way to get through 2020. It's brought me a lot of joy through all the ups and downs.
Thank you all for the support you've shown me this year.
I remember by this time, last year, I was scared as hell for jumping ship to work on this game full-time.
You're literally the reason I can keep doing this for a living and I hope my past, current, and future efforts will show you how much your support means to me.
It's not taken for granted and it never will be.



Cheers to all of you maggot brothers and HOT sisters!
Merry Christmas and Happy holidays!
And if you're not checking in until 2021, have a wonderful new year!

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Would you look at that... Even DPC agrees that Sage is the Best and Only Girl worthy of being beside the MC and touching him :sneaky:
 
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felicemastronzo said:
I really don't like the character, what he does and what he says

if he was a real person it might be fun to meet him every now and then, but not more than once a week between meals

sure that if now he goes from funny to depressed I don't know how he can go on
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This is a very fair point. Someone like this would be nearly intolerable in real-life. In a game he works because of suspension of disbelief, but he does push that. I'm actually hopeful that his one-night stand with the feminist will help balance him out as a character.
 
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gingersweetgirl said:
This is a very fair point. Someone like this would be nearly intolerable in real-life. In a game he works because of suspension of disbelief, but he does push that. I'm actually hopeful that his one-night stand with the feminist will help balance him out as a character.
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actually I happened to know someone very similar to Derek in reality, and I confirm that it was pleasant only if taken in very small doses.

in the game I can't trust him, neither for the important things nor for the nonsense
 
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