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Is everyone playing the same game?? Or are there different versions available lol.instead, every time I see all the blame being placed on MC and all the justifications on the girls. It is not so.
This part is stupid and a time waste.How do allocate this? I put randomly to everyone? Make it even?
Is there a tutorial on how to work this in the best way?
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I think it's a lot of things. Doc has broken Cathy (currently) in the storyline ("Episode 6: Destroy All Redheads").OK what's going on with the Jade & Cathy conversation at the end of ep 6? Out of curiosity I did a playthrough with no Jade sex and no Cathy sex. The conversation is exactly the same. So what was Jade mad about? What didn't Cathy know before going there? And where did she go? What IS the worst thing that ever happened? It's not sex tapes, there was no sex with those two this time.
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"undeveloped storytelling"Well, we can say this as an undeveloped storytelling. This scenario truly only works if MC is indeed involved with Josy and Maya the way it meant to be. In that Case he is also responsible for his own action, like it or not.
if you avoid them completely, then we have some plot holes, on the other hand, those peoples who not care about them, should not bitch about it , just let it drop, they are greatly rewarded, wiht Quinn, Jade and with others.
I do have to admit, I hesitant to call this whole Josy Maya thing to a fiasco. Because after a year and half, this is still one of the most talking controversial topic, if that not good writing I don't know what it is, I mean nobody talk about GoT anymore, after season 8![]()
Except that we had the date with her which revealed quite a bit about her and her personal life. They might seem like small things but we learn that she prefers flowers over chocolate as a gift, wine over beer, she's not that good in the kitchen but wanted to put in the effort to make the night special, her parents divorced after her Dad cheated on her Mom, she doesn't get on with her step-Mom or her real Mom, and we also get that moment where she bares her soul about how worried she is that she won't get in to college and what this means for her future. Compare all that to someone like Sage who we only recently found out has problems dealing with her emotions because her family aren't very open about that stuff, but we still don't know anything about her family (parent's names, siblings, etc), or about her likes and dislikes, her hopes for the future, her fears, etc.tbh I dont want her to be overly complicated and drama-laden as you put it, I love Josie's girl next door feel that's what attracted me as a player/reader to her person, I just want there to be a bit more of a nugget of character because we haven't spent much time with her outside being the 3rd wheel to the Maya/Josy relationship and I just want a bit more, not asking for much and hopefully episode 7 we get it.
Co-dependency in terms of her story and drama, sure, but I wouldn't say that Josy as a character is co-dependent on Maya. I'd actually say that Josy is a big influence on Maya and that she's a positive force in her life, so she's more the dominant one in that relationship. If she's in the game for anything, it could to be to bring more legitimacy to this "lesbian-turned-straight" aspect with Maya because most games just a have a lesbian/bi character hop on the MC's dick simply by virtue of his dick and masculine charms, whereas here Josy could be a more reasonably believable influence and the key character in guiding this throuple path.I dont agree with you there. I dont think anyone said that Josy wasnt interesting, we are saying that she is indeed interesting but the way that DPC chose to portray her made her bland and co-dependent on Maya, making it seem like Josy is just in the game to be Mayas LI, like DavDR said before.
Thats just one (of many) evidences to show that DPC seems to have a preference to Maya... But I dont want to discuss this on this post because I want to at least give Josy something that she doesnt have to share with Maya
And, to be truly honest, I think peoples opinion on Josy is being dragged down by peoples opinions on Maya and on the M&J path. Im just waiting for their eventual break up (at least on the other paths) to see what people REALLY think about Josy.
Exactly. The perception of these 2 is very much based on how you play it but it is also based on the lack of variation that DPC put in Ep 4 depending on how players approached these 2 characters. I'd also say that the reason it gets talked about so much isn't because of good writing but because of bad writing because almost all the issues some people have with these 2 could have been solved if they had been written better.Well, we can say this as an undeveloped storytelling. This scenario truly only works if MC is indeed involved with Josy and Maya the way it meant to be. In that Case he is also responsible for his own action, like it or not.
if you avoid them completely, then we have some plot holes, on the other hand, those peoples who not care about them, should not bitch about it , just let it drop, they are greatly rewarded, wiht Quinn, Jade and with others.
I do have to admit, I hesitant to call this whole Josy Maya thing to a fiasco. Because after a year and half, this is still one of the most talking controversial topic, if that not good writing I don't know what it is, I mean nobody talk about GoT anymore, after season 8![]()
Well, you can decide to not fuck Josy , and not spend any time with Maya.Is everyone playing the same game?? Or are there different versions available lol.
I seriously don't understand how people can blame MC or blame all of it on MC only.
MC said "farewell" and was planning to create some distance between him and Josy.
But Josy being Josy hugs him and says "this is not farewell, this is goodbye"......
On the date too she asks MC to stay not the other way around.
MC isn't the one "making the moves" lol, it is Josy.
MC is not in anyway perfect.Well, you can decide to not fuck Josy , and not spend any time with Maya.![]()
What peoples have to accept and understand, is to put aside for your own feeling for a second, then you will realize, The only reason why MC act like a but hurt bitch, because its Maya who is Josy's distance relationship partner, and He's other problem, is not that Maya has a secret girlfriend, but that it's Josy it is.
He does not give a fuck that Sage is in love with Chad, He does not give a Fuck that Bella say no to him, He keep pushing her, until she likes it. HE is a hypocrite bitch, who end up sitting in the floor between two chair![]()
all that is fine but why the fuck he is still forced to involve in maya problems . It does not make any senseMC in not in anyway perfect.
No one is claiming that.
He is how YOU (i.e. the player) wants to be.
"The only reason why MC act like a but hurt bitch, because its Maya who is Josy's distance relationship partner, and He's other problem, is not that Maya has a secret girlfriend, but that it's Josy it is."
Again this is because of poor writing.
You are literally forced to go after Josy and Maya in first 3 chapters.
there is no other way.
You can ignore them all you want but the scene still plays the same way.
Well, you can decide to not fuck Josy , and not spend any time with Maya.![]()
What peoples have to accept and understand, is to put aside for your own feeling for a second, then you will realize, The only reason why MC act like a but hurt bitch, because its Maya who is Josy's distance relationship partner, and He's other problem, is not that Maya has a secret girlfriend, but that it's Josy it is.
He does not give a fuck that Sage is in love with Chad, He does not give a Fuck that Bella say no to him, He keep pushing her, until she likes it. HE is a hypocrite bitch, who end up sitting in the floor between two chair![]()
I think the biggest problem regarding of them is not really the writing, although as I said, if you avoid them the scenario still play out the same way which is bad, definitely bad.Exactly. The perception of these 2 is very much based on how you play it but it is also based on the lack of variation that DPC put in Ep 4 depending on how players approached these 2 characters. I'd also say that the reason it gets talked about so much isn't because of good writing but because of bad writing because almost all the issues some people have with these 2 could have been solved if they had been written better.
I'd love to have this option frenall that is fine but why the fuck he is still forced to involve in maya problems . It does not make any sense
atleast give an option to skip them
The same reason you are forced in other scenes. They are part of the story, and MC is still friend with them Maya is still Derek sister, and Josy is still Josy. By this logic, we could complain about every scene we dont like.all that is fine but why the fuck he is still forced to involve in maya problems . It does not make any sense
atleast give an option to skip them
When you've tried your best to distance your MC from both girls (not having sex with Josy, not making any move on Maya and maybe even having a threesome with Quinn and Riona just moments before Josy arrival) and still get the same reaction, yes, you feel MC's reaction blaming both girls for not tellling him they were together is waaay over the topI've avoided commenting on the MC's behavior when he find's out about Maya and Josy because I had a very different reaction. Maybe I misread the situation, or maybe it was the path I was on, but I didn't think the MC's reaction was over the top, and I don't think he was mean, he was hurt in a way that was purely emotional and illogical. I looked at his reaction as "Why did it have to be Josy? This situation is fucked up and I can't deal with it right now." And I don't think that's unfair. In my interpretation it wasn't the cheating that bothered him, it was the sudden realization of the insane complexity and duplicity of the situation. I looked at the MC as someone that was mad at something intangible like fate- the fate that put him in the middle of a love triangle. He moved out for a few days (which was the right thing to do) and didn't say anything too hurtful or aggressive.
At least that's how I remember it. I don't remember thinking that I was too angry at either girl, just that it was best for the MC to disengage for a while and put some distance between himself and the girls. Reading some of the responses about how badly the MC behaved, I don't know if my read on the situation was just that much different or if it played out differently because of the decisions I made.
This is not an RPG, this is still a novel ,a book, we merely can decide what page we want to read, based on some of our actions. but even in RPG there is a Main storyline, even there your options are limited. Even in RPG games there is a Perfect playstile, a way how the game meant to be played to achieve the desired outcome.I'd love to have this option fren
All these problems are due to two things, poor writing and lack of freedom.
You are forced to take decisions you don't want.
It would also have been nice if we got the option to beat Troy again and kick his ass out of the room instead of going with Maya
thats what i am saying that if for the friend zone thing it would have done at the starting only . It does not make sense after all things happened .I'd love to have this option fren
All these problems are due to two things, poor writing and lack of freedom.
You are forced to take decisions you don't want.
It would also have been nice if we got the option to beat Troy again and kick his ass out of the room instead of going with Maya
"we could complain about every scene we dont like."The same reason you are forced in other scenes. They are part of the story, and MC is still friend with them Maya is still Derek sister, and Josy is still Josy. By this logic, we could complain about every scene we dont like.
Why my MC wanted to impress Bella? I don't care about Bella, Why MC ask Jill out on a date? Why I have to be involved in the hell week, Why I have to join to the Diks . See how this plays?
We can go and on and on about it , if anything, Josy and Maya are are lacking since ep 4
Yeah, I can see that being a big issue. I didn't know that threesome was even possible.When you've tried your best to distance your MC from both girls (not having sex with Josy, not making any move on Maya and maybe even having a threesome with Quinn and Riona just moments before Josy arrival) and still get the same reaction, yes, you feel MC's reaction blaming both girls for not tellling him they were together is waaay over the top