VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[RC-1138 Boss]

Let me preface this by saying I love this game - my favorite on the site by far.

That said, DPC is going to have to release episodes more frequently than every 4-5 months. At this pace, the game won't be wrapped up for another 3-4 years. I'm not sure you can hold an audience's attention for that long. I know that the quality is most important, and he shouldn't compromise that, but we're talking 2024 or 2025 for a completion.

Someone correct me if i am wrong but didn't the latest update already passed the 5 months mark? Also DPC already said the current update he is working on is bigger than episode 6.

Quality is important sure but bigger doesn't always mean better. Look at how unnecessary (and boring) was this whole mansion cleaning minigame. It would be simpler and take less production time to just make a few dialogue choices to decide how to fix the DIK's house.

 

[ename144]

I didn't say anything about a "date", I said that it could be Bella and Jill who are playing tennis and Tybalt would show up uninvited, similar to the way he does when they're doing yoga in Ep 2 or the DnG game in Ep 6, and then try to impose himself upon Jill and Bella. If Bella were then to be the one who calls the MC, that doesn't negate or diminish his blackmailing of Jill because she hasn't breached the terms if someone else invites the MC. Tybalt can kick up as much fuss as he wants, but if Bella were to then threaten to leave that would upset Jill and Tybalt does seem to recognise that he needs to be on Bella's good side if he has a chance with Jill so he'd easily relent and allow him to play with them.

In this way, Bella becomes like a loophole in Tybalt's blackmail ploy because he seems to realise that Bella is an important influence on Jill's life and is trying to befriend her so this will help him with Jill, so if Bella invites the MC to things where Jill is also present, he'll have to capitulate to him being there since it's Bella's decision and he needs her on-side in his pursuit of Jill.

What loophole? If Jill is playing Bella, Tybalt would just wait until she's done then spend time with Jill himself. If he wanted a doubles game, he'd provide the 4th person himself specifically so Jill would have no excuse to include the MC; keeping her away from the MC was the entire point of his threat.

If Jill manages to include the MC just because Bella wants to, then we're back to just flagrantly defying Tybalt. After all, Jill is around Bella a lot so what practical limit is Tybalt's ultimatum putting on Jill? "You know I'd turn down the offer if I could, Tybalt, but Bella has her heart set on being a bridesmaid at MC's wedding!"

Look, the blackmail excuse was a threadbare plot hook to begin with. The only way to make it work is if Jill enforces it on herself. So she has to be actively limiting her time with the MC all on her own. It's one thing to be inadvertently roped into a D&G game including the MC. It's quite another to drag the MC into an unrelated activity purely to rub Tybalt's nose in it.

You can't keep treating Tybalt as a butt monkey while simultaneously making Jill worried about crossing him. You can do one or the other (at least in theory), but not both at once.

 

[Casmyr]

Someone correct me if i am wrong but didn't the latest update already passed the 5 months mark? Also DPC already said the current update he is working on is bigger than episode 6.

Quality is important sure but bigger doesn't always mean better. Look at how unnecessary (and boring) was this whole mansion cleaning minigame. It would be simpler and take less production time to just make a few dialogue choices to decide how to fix the DIK's house.

I liked the mansion cleaning mini game because it drove home Sage's comment about Rusty being on easy street because he's a Burgmeister and 'thats not how frats work' so it was fun I guess sending your fellow diks to do different chores or jobs.

Also its neat that he's trying to branch out into different avenues of game play like trying to set his game apart from other VN's

 

[ChipLecsap]

So, it's like this.... just don't fucking do that.... Play anything else... like literally anything.....
I give credit when it is due, and DPC is certainly near the top of the genre with his renders. By his own admission, and a lot of folk's criticisms we know that writing is NOT his strong suite... in AL it is particularly bad.

that's not how I interpreted what he said, but at least you can have the daily dose of jerking off material for the rest of you life. enjoy

 

[Kellermann]

Hmm... Some events in the game are that difficult to accept, is it that, right? Then I don't know anymore. I am quite sensitive, get fond of likable characters and hate when they suffer... or die. Surely it is for the best if I pass on this one then.

By the way, in BaDIK, Dr. Pincake warns, through Jill's message at the start of the game for new players very much in this same sense, I get. However I have found the first six episodes fun and lighthearted enough so far. (I have laughed out loud quite a few times playing this). Truth be said, I have played as a massive dik right from the start. Perhaps going another route for the protagonist would have got different and harsher outcomes.

Anyway I really hope this game does not get too dramatic. That would kill much of its fun in my humble opinion. I would hate something really bad happens to sweet Maya, my fav chick in the game. We will see, I guess...

I shouldn't discourage you from it. You may like it just as much as BaDIK. I will say that it has a much darker tone than the lighthearted Being a DIK. I also hope BaDIK doesn't go too deep on the drama in future episodes. Right now, it has the perfect balance. If DPC keeps it that way and doesn't turn it into a brooding, morose spectacle then I think all will be well.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Someone correct me if i am wrong but didn't the latest update already passed the 5 months mark? Also DPC already said the current update he is working on is bigger than episode 6.

Quality is important sure but bigger doesn't always mean better. Look at how unnecessary (and boring) was this whole mansion cleaning minigame. It would be simpler and take less production time to just make a few dialogue choices to decide how to fix the DIK's house.

Ep 6 released Nov 13th, so we're not close to 5 months yet.

What loophole? If Jill is playing Bella, Tybalt would just wait until she's done then spend time with Jill himself. If he wanted a doubles game, he'd provide the 4th person himself specifically so Jill would have no excuse to include the MC; keeping her away from the MC was the entire point of his threat.

If Jill manages to include the MC just because Bella wants to, then we're back to just flagrantly defying Tybalt. After all, Jill is around Bella a lot so what practical limit is Tybalt's ultimatum putting on Jill? "You know I'd turn down the offer if I could, Tybalt, but Bella has her heart set on being a bridesmaid at MC's wedding!"

Look, the blackmail excuse was a threadbare plot hook to begin with. The only way to make it work is if Jill enforces it on herself. So she has to be actively limiting her time with the MC all on her own. It's one thing to be inadvertently roped into a D&G game including the MC. It's quite another to drag the MC into an unrelated activity purely to rub Tybalt's nose in it.

You can't keep treating Tybalt as a butt monkey while simultaneously making Jill worried about crossing him. You can do one or the other (at least in theory), but not both at once.

I did lay this out in my earlier theory, but I'll do it again in greater detail and with bullet points:

• Bella and Jill are playing tennis
• Tybalt interrupts them, suggests playing Jill
• Bella says no because it's just supposed to be her and Jill playing
• Tybalt suggests doubles and getting a 4th to join, goes to call a Prep buddy
• Bella says she has someone else in mind, Tybalt capitulates because he's trying to befriend Bella
• Bella, unbeknownst to Jill and Tybalt, calls the MC
• The MC shows up, Jill is surprised, Tybalt is pissed
• Bella gets annoyed at Tybalt, says she'll just leave if he won't let the MC join, Jill gets upset that Bella wants to leave
• Tybalt, in order to keep Jill happy, lets the MC stay so that Bella will stay, which is what Jill wants.

In this scenario, it's Bella wanting the MC to stay because he's her guest, and Tybalt knows how much Bella means to Jill and how much he needs to keep Bella on-side, so if Jill is upset at Bella leaving, he'll capitulate because it satisfies two of his goals, being on good terms with Bella and keeping Jill happy, even if it means going against his own blackmail conditions.

 

[Casmyr]

I give credit when it is due, and DPC is certainly near the top of the genre with his renders.

For renders I bounce back and forth between the charlatan that made milfy city and DPC.

 

[rohit6458]

Hey, can somebody tell me who is the girl from N7's Profile Picture (the user who has posted this game along with many others)? Is it from a game or is it just a single render? If yes, then from what game?

Sorry if it's not the right place to ask this question, and please guide me where to ask such questions if it is indeed not.

And a huge thanks to N7 for posting this game and also giving us regular updates about what's going on with the development of the game. This is like the best adult game I've played and even maybe the best game overall with what it makes you feel. You just get attached to the story and the characters and don't want it to ever end. Everything about it is just so perfect. Especially, I really appreciate and am amazed by the wonderful soundtrack of the game. This is what makes you live the already very well written story.
Right now I don't earn but one thing is sure and it is that when I do earn, I'll be really glad to support DrPinkCake's work.

 

[89898hh]

Ep 6 released Nov 13th, so we're not close to 5 months yet.



I did lay this out in my earlier theory, but I'll do it again in greater detail and with bullet points:

• Bella and Jill are playing tennis
• Tybalt interrupts them, suggests playing Jill
• Bella says no because it's just supposed to be her and Jill playing
• Tybalt suggests doubles and getting a 4th to join, goes to call a Prep buddy
• Bella says she has someone else in mind, Tybalt capitulates because he's trying to befriend Bella
• Bella, unbeknownst to Jill and Tybalt, calls the MC
• The MC shows up, Jill is surprised, Tybalt is pissed
• Bella gets annoyed at Tybalt, says she'll just leave if he won't let the MC join, Jill gets upset that Bella wants to leave
• Tybalt, in order to keep Jill happy, lets the MC stay so that Bella will stay, which is what Jill wants.

In this scenario, it's Bella wanting the MC to stay because he's her guest, and Tybalt knows how much Bella means to Jill and how much he needs to keep Bella on-side, so if Jill is upset at Bella leaving, he'll capitulate because it satisfies two of his goals, being on good terms with Bella and keeping Jill happy, even if it means going against his own blackmail conditions.

Didn't Dr Pinkcake upgrade his tech ? I think i read that somewhere, could be wrong. If so hopefully it speeds up development so we wont be waiting 5 months.

 

[AchedCroissant]

Hey, can somebody tell me who is the girl from N7's Profile Picture (the user who has posted this game along with many others)? Is it from a game or is it just a single render? If yes, then from what game?

Sorry if it's not the right place to ask this question, and please guide me where to ask such questions if it is indeed not.

And a huge thanks to N7 for posting this game and also giving us regular updates about what's going on with the development of the game. This is like the best adult game I've played and even maybe the best game overall with what it makes you feel. You just get attached to the story and the characters and don't want it to ever end. Everything about it is just so perfect. Especially, I really appreciate and am amazed by the wonderful soundtrack of the game. This is what makes you live the already very well written story.
Right now I don't earn but one thing is sure and it is that when I do earn, I'll be really glad to support DrPinkCake's work.

Is Jill Valentine

 

[Malicre]

For renders I bounce back and forth between the charlatan that made milfy city and DPC.

What do you consider a render? Because personally i think ToN has some of the best renders/animations/cutscenes ever seen in a porn game, like that dev should be working on real triple a titles in the gaming industry.

DPC doesn't excel in one aspect, games like LoF and ToN do certain things better but what he does do is make a good overall product.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Didn't Dr Pinkcake upgrade his tech ? I think i read that somewhere, could be wrong. If so hopefully it speeds up development so we wont be waiting 5 months.

It's already sped up his development as his status updates have said he's been able to produce more renders and animations at a quicker pace, but he's still got all the back-end stuff to do like coding, plus he's still writing the dialogue, and this episode is going to be bigger than Ep 6, so 4-5 months is still likely to be the norm even with the upgraded tech.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Hmm... Some events in the game are that difficult to accept, is it that, right? Then I don't know anymore. I am quite sensitive, get fond of likable characters and hate when they suffer... or die. Surely it is for the best if I pass on this one then.

By the way, in BaDIK, Dr. Pincake warns, through Jill's message at the start of the game for new players very much in this same sense, I get. However I have found the first six episodes fun and lighthearted enough so far. (I have laughed out loud quite a few times playing this). Truth be said, I have played as a massive dik right from the start. Perhaps going another route for the protagonist would have got different and harsher outcomes.

Anyway I really hope this game does not get too dramatic. That would kill much of its fun in my humble opinion. I would hate something really bad happens to sweet Maya, my fav chick in the game. We will see, I guess...

If you know yourself to be sensitive, I can't recommend you the Acting Lessons. it involves cancer , abuse, and death, and yes regarding of the likeable characters. many player suffer some kind of PTSD after that game, and is heavily infected their view on DPC and the Badik game.
my advice is that I don't think that game is for you

 

[Casmyr]

What do you consider a render? Because personally i think ToN has some of the best renders/animations/cutscenes ever seen in a porn game, like that dev should be working on real triple a titles in the gaming industry.

DPC doesn't excel in one aspect, games like LoF and ToN do certain things better but what he does do is make a good overall product.

ToN?

And I consider a render to be like a character model or scene from a game like a still

 

[Holy Bacchus]

ToN?

And I consider a render to be like a character model or scene from a game like a still

Treasures of Nadia by NLT Media. The renders are good and the female characters are hot, but they have overly exaggerated proportions and rubbery looking skin. BaDIK at least has a good mix of characters that look a little bit more realistic with just a few who have exaggerated proportions.

 

[Conklingc]

ToN?

And I consider a render to be like a character model or scene from a game like a still

Treasure of Nadia, he uses older Daz models (Gen2) but has excellent animated scenes.

Edit: was posting as Bacchus was answering.

 

[Kellermann]

Ep 6 released Nov 13th, so we're not close to 5 months yet.



I did lay this out in my earlier theory, but I'll do it again in greater detail and with bullet points:

• Bella and Jill are playing tennis
• Tybalt interrupts them, suggests playing Jill
• Bella says no because it's just supposed to be her and Jill playing
• Tybalt suggests doubles and getting a 4th to join, goes to call a Prep buddy
• Bella says she has someone else in mind, Tybalt capitulates because he's trying to befriend Bella
• Bella, unbeknownst to Jill and Tybalt, calls the MC
• The MC shows up, Jill is surprised, Tybalt is pissed
• Bella gets annoyed at Tybalt, says she'll just leave if he won't let the MC join, Jill gets upset that Bella wants to leave
• Tybalt, in order to keep Jill happy, lets the MC stay so that Bella will stay, which is what Jill wants.

In this scenario, it's Bella wanting the MC to stay because he's her guest, and Tybalt knows how much Bella means to Jill and how much he needs to keep Bella on-side, so if Jill is upset at Bella leaving, he'll capitulate because it satisfies two of his goals, being on good terms with Bella and keeping Jill happy, even if it means going against his own blackmail conditions.

I'd rather them do something else. I feel the same way about tennis as I do about D&G. First time is fun. Second time, not so much. Unless it turns into a dream sequence fuckfest on the court, I could probably get into that. The problem is I believe Jill said it was part of her regular routine (tennis, yoga, gym, etc.), so we're probably getting a second/third helping. The issue is you really can't get much variety with tennis and yoga. We've already done pretty much all the standard porn game yoga tropes. Tennis is what it is...you smack some balls around (no not that kind you perverts). I had more fun in the shower with Jill blue balling me than I did with the tennis game itself. At least with D&G you can have different quests, but again I want to see new things.

 

[ename144]

Ep 6 released Nov 13th, so we're not close to 5 months yet.



I did lay this out in my earlier theory, but I'll do it again in greater detail and with bullet points:

• Bella and Jill are playing tennis
• Tybalt interrupts them, suggests playing Jill
• Bella says no because it's just supposed to be her and Jill playing
• Tybalt suggests doubles and getting a 4th to join, goes to call a Prep buddy
• Bella says she has someone else in mind, Tybalt capitulates because he's trying to befriend Bella
• Bella, unbeknownst to Jill and Tybalt, calls the MC
• The MC shows up, Jill is surprised, Tybalt is pissed
• Bella gets annoyed at Tybalt, says she'll just leave if he won't let the MC join, Jill gets upset that Bella wants to leave
• Tybalt, in order to keep Jill happy, lets the MC stay so that Bella will stay, which is what Jill wants.

In this scenario, it's Bella wanting the MC to stay because he's her guest, and Tybalt knows how much Bella means to Jill and how much he needs to keep Bella on-side, so if Jill is upset at Bella leaving, he'll capitulate because it satisfies two of his goals, being on good terms with Bella and keeping Jill happy, even if it means going against his own blackmail conditions.

Why would Jill allow Bella to do that? If she's worried about Tybalt's threat (which we know she is, thanks to her idiotic subplot in Episode 6), she should be worried about pissing Tybalt off. That's the fundamental problem with your scenario: Jill isn't stringing Tybalt along until she can outmaneuver him, she thinks she has to give up the MC for his own good. Bella would need to fool her too, and that's a lot harder.

But more importantly, what does your scenario achieve for the audience? If the point is to enjoy humiliating Tybalt again, then we're directly undercutting the whole point of letting Tybalt blackmail Jill in the first place. Tybalt has been a punching bag from day one. We already know the MC is better than him. We know that Jill knows the MC is better than him. We even know that Tybalt knows the MC is better than him (though he'll obviously try to deny it). Illustrating it yet again is a) dull and b) incompatible with Tybalt becoming a genuine obstacle to Jill's romance.

There are only two ways to make this work: either Jill decides the MC is right and she will resume her relationship with the MC (openly or in secret), or the match allows Tybalt to get the better of the MC (something along the lines of the scenario you laid you, but then Tybalt insists Jill leave for their date and she agrees without meeting the MC's eyes).

I don't consider the former tenable because we're back to having no brake on the Jill romance. If the two of them like each other, there's no reason not to get together; even if it's in secret at first, the mere passage of time will eventually render Tybalt's threat moot.

I do consider the latter option viable, but it sure as hell wouldn't be fun.

 

[AchedCroissant]

I'd rather them do something else. I feel the same way about tennis as I do about D&G. First time is fun. Second time, not so much. Unless it turns into a dream sequence fuckfest on the court, I could probably get into that. The problem is I believe Jill said it was part of her regular routine (tennis, yoga, gym, etc.), so we're probably getting a second/third helping. The issue is you really can't get much variety with tennis and yoga. We've already done pretty much all the standard porn game yoga tropes. Tennis is what it is...you smack some balls around (no not that kind you perverts). I had more fun in the shower with Jill blue balling me than I did with the tennis game itself. At least with D&G you can have different quests, but again I want to see new things.

Jill routine

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Why would Jill allow Bella to do that? If she's worried about Tybalt's threat (which we know she is, thanks to her idiotic subplot in Episode 6), she should be worried about pissing Tybalt off. That's the fundamental problem with your scenario: Jill isn't stringing Tybalt along until she can outmaneuver him, she thinks she has to give up the MC for his own good. Bella would need to fool her too, and that's a lot harder.

But more importantly, what does your scenario achieve for the audience? If the point is to enjoy humiliating Tybalt again, then we're directly undercutting the whole point of letting Tybalt blackmail Jill in the first place. Tybalt has been a punching bag from day one. We already know the MC is better than him. We know that Jill knows the MC is better than him. We even know that Tybalt knows the MC is better than him (though he'll obviously try to deny it). Illustrating it yet again is a) dull and b) incompatible with Tybalt becoming a genuine obstacle to Jill's romance.

There are only two ways to make this work: either Jill decides the MC is right and she will resume her relationship with the MC (openly or in secret), if the match allows Tybalt to get the better of the MC (something along the lines of the scenario you laid you, but then Tybalt insists Jill leave for their date and she agrees without meeting the MC's eyes).

I don't consider the former tenable because we're back to having no brake on the Jill romance. If the two of them like each other, there's no reason not to get together; even if it's in secret at first, the mere passage of time will eventually render Tybalt's threat moot.

I do consider the latter option viable, but it sure as hell wouldn't be fun.

If by "Why would Jill allow Bella to do that?" you're referring to Bella calling the MC, well obviously she wouldn't know that's who she's calling. We also know that Jill is a people pleaser and doesn't enjoy confrontation, so if Bella wants the MC to be there then she's not going argue against it because it's Bella's choice. Also, she didn't exactly have a problem hanging out with him in the library and Tybalt even saw them together, so why would she have a problem here? Perhaps she thinks that the conditions only apply to seeing him alone and not in social interactions where there are other people around, in which case a doubles tennis match qualifies. Also, she might see this as an opportunity to mend the rift between the MC and Tybalt and thus make Tybalt rescind his ultimatum/blackmail.

Yes, Tybalt has been the butt of many a joke, but that's the point. He is that archetypal upperclass twit who thinks he's better than the blue-collar protag, but the protag keeps getting one over on him in various comical and humiliating ways, and that's Tybalt's role here. He's not likely meant to be any sort of serious contender or antagonist, he's meant to be the joke and it can it happen as many times as it wants. In Wile E Coyote cartoons, you always know he's going to get humiliated at every turn, but it never stops being funny, and that's Tybalt.