VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[AchedCroissant]

Is it only me or does the app take like 2 mins to load?

Thanks

I never had that problem since it loads me fast in Windows 10 and Ubuntu 20.04

 

[Projekt Night]

Hey, you know some codes to change affinity on console?

affinity = u'DIK'
affinity = u'CHICK'
affinity = u'NEUTRAL'

 

[Klinex]

Wow, i completely missed the release of EP 6.

Just finished it, and it was pretty great.

That little talk with Sage in her bed is probably my favorite scene this far. That was amazing.

 

[JagsFan84]

That's a genuinely bad render of Sarah. She looks very mannish in that wallpaper.

 

[ename144]

Not really hating on the drama. Just feel that much drama needs a proper disclosure...

AL is a game I played once, and I’m perfectly content never picking it up again. I respect it for what it is, but I don’t see the value in revisiting the story/characters again.

I’m fully aware people feel differently though.

I never played any alternate routes in AL either, which is unusual for me. And while there are things I'm still curious about in the game (like Melissa), given the misery I'd have to go through to get to the end I doubt that will change. It's just not worth it.

I think I understand what he was going for and why he wanted it to come as a surprise, but I don't think the end result was good. An audience needs some idea of what they're getting into when they start a game, and AL deliberately misled them.

I really hope DPC got all that out of his system in AL.

My point there was when the MC is given the option to “go see Bella” after asking Jill out. Personally, I would “go see Bella” every time - to thank her for her vote of confidence in me. The problem is that, while that scene starts as expected, it transforms into the make out session without any option for the MC to stop it.

A simple “it’s moving to fast for me” option would’ve been very welcome here. That way players who want to genuinely thank Bella can do so without fear of it evolving into something else.

The entire scene is skippable, yes. I still feel like an asshole for not even properly thanking Bella though, and that really should have been an option - especially for a CHICK MC.

Remember in this situation we are thanking her for trusting us to ask Jill out...

As for the staying with her, I feel that route isn’t too “romantic” to be prohibitive, but since the library scene is a requirement for that option DPC had different ideas there.

The drunk scene I can forgive - we were drunk...

Preach on! Bella is the one LI I just don't like romancing. I've compared it to insisting a recovered alcoholic go out clubbing with you. The MC is, overall, a decent guy even on a DIK run. But for some reason he is just obsessed with getting into Bella's pants even when it's blatantly obvious that she is really uncomfortable with that. It gets even worse if the MC skips staying with Bella in Episode 4, because then the "relationship" goes from her sobbing that she's married in the library to the MC's full-court press in the sauna without skipping a beat.

Like you, I wound up skipping the whole scene just to avoid leching on poor Isabella, and I don't understand why it works that way. I get the need to keep branching to a sensible level, but given that the MC can miss the entire scene you'd think it would be minimal effort to give the MC a clear choice to make a move on Bella or not. I can't think of anything in that scene prior to the make-out session that would be a game changer if the MC saw it and then passed on Bella.

So yeah, it's just a very weird and uncomfortable bit in a game that stands out all the more for how well done most of the LI relationships are (Maya & Josy's reconciliation in the other library notwithstanding).

It's interesting that Episode 6 finally had some closure to this: MCs who visited Bella in the library but then turned down her offer to help clean up will explicitly note that they don't want to take things further with Bella. Late in coming, but perhaps we can finally spend time with Bella without treating her as a future bedpost notch.

 

[Malicre]

Preach on! Bella is the one LI I just don't like romancing. I've compared it to insisting a recovered alcoholic go out clubbing with you. The MC is, overall, a decent guy even on a DIK run. But for some reason he is just obsessed with getting into Bella's pants even when it's blatantly obvious that she is really uncomfortable with that. It gets even worse if the MC skips staying with Bella in Episode 4, because then the "relationship" goes from her sobbing that she's married in the library to the MC's full-court press in the sauna without skipping a beat.

Like you, I wound up skipping the whole scene just to avoid leching on poor Isabella, and I don't understand why it works that way. I get the need to keep branching to a sensible level, but given that the MC can miss the entire scene you'd think it would be minimal effort to give the MC a clear choice to make a move on Bella or not. I can't think of anything in that scene prior to the make-out session that would be a game changer if the MC saw it and then passed on Bella.

Maybe that's what DPC is going for, the MC putting the full court press on bella and she having a major psychological breakdown after they sleep together. Who knows honestly, all we can do is theorize.

 

[Razrback16]

I wonder if, for those of us who break off pursuit of Bella by telling her we don't need help cleaning, in order to drive the drama for another chunk of episodes, DPC will write in that Bella gets semi obsessed with MC and starts stalking him around, or if she'll truly just become like a buddy in the game that will help you "woo" Jill against Tybalt.

Edit - just to add here, one of the reasons I was wondering about this is back in Episode 5 at Bella's place after they have pancakes, Jill goes to the bathroom and MC says to Bella that he doesn't have to take her class if it'll be awkward and she basically tells him to stop it, and he makes a comment about how "there's something between us" and that's not an optional comment, it is canon, so it just made me think about it a bit.

Loved her Rooster post during MC & Jill's date where Tybalt won't shutup about who took the photo of Jill and finally Bella goes "I took it, now stop bothering her" or something along those lines.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

Maybe that's what DPC is going for, the MC putting the full court press on bella and she having a major psychological breakdown after they sleep together. Who knows honestly, all we can do is theorize.

We kind of almost got there after the ep6 scene. But then MC washed it away by hugging her in his sleep. At this point, I am fully expecting a mental breakdown of some sort, though.

 

[ename144]

Maybe that's what DPC is going for, the MC putting the full court press on bella and she having a major psychological breakdown after they sleep together. Who knows honestly, all we can do is theorize.

Oh, I'd put money on that. The question is why it's still possible to opt out of Bella entirely but not just the full court press.

It could be that DPC wants to offer more options than are realistic, so he plays the odds and hopes the player will pick the 'right' option. That would explain why some scenes make much more sense in certain playthroughs like Maya's "No Strings Attached" speech if the MC sleeps around, or Tybalt's blackmail if the MC punched him in full view of the fraternity. If that's the case, the odds are certainly stacked in DPC's favor on this one.

As you say, we can only guess.


EDIT:

I wonder if, for those of us who break off pursuit of Bella by telling her we don't need help cleaning, in order to drive the drama for another chunk of episodes, DPC will write in that Bella gets semi obsessed with MC and starts stalking him around, or if she'll truly just become like a buddy in the game that will help you "woo" Jill against Tybalt.

Edit - just to add here, one of the reasons I was wondering about this is back in Episode 5 at Bella's place after they have pancakes, Jill goes to the bathroom and MC says to Bella that he doesn't have to take her class if it'll be awkward and she basically tells him to stop it, and he makes a comment about how "there's something between us" and that's not an optional comment, it is canon, so it just made me think about it a bit.

Loved her Rooster post during MC & Jill's date where Tybalt won't shutup about who took the photo of Jill and finally Bella goes "I took it, now stop bothering her" or something along those lines.

I'm guessing turning down Bella will end the romance chance (at least for the foreseeable future). The MC will explicitly note that he didn't accept Bella's offer because he was afraid it might go too far:

That sounds like a clear indication the inexplicable infatuation is over. Admittedly, I'm not sure how this would tie into a future breakdown if that happens. Perhaps it's just more hedging: the game certainly makes it easy to accept Bella's 'help.'

 

[Malicre]

Oh, I'd put money on that. The question is why it's still possible to opt out of Bella entirely but not just the full court press.

It could be that DPC wants to offer more options than are realistic, so he plays the odds and hopes the player will pick the 'right' option. That would explain why some scenes make much more sense in certain playthroughs like Maya's "No Strings Attached" speech if the MC sleeps around, or Tybalt's blackmail if the MC punched him in full view of the fraternity. If that's the case, the odds are certainly stacked in DPC's favor on this one.

As you say, we can only guess.

Honestly the Bella route has always been kind of weird, don't get me wrong she's hot at fuck but she never really felt like a teacher to me and to make matters worse she does some of the dumbest shit i've ever seen a teacher do like sleeping in the MC's room at the frat house and not leaving early.

At least Jade has some common sense and tries to keep things between them a secret and i know i know but there's a difference between one person finding out and an entire fraternity.

 

[Casmyr]

The difference between Jade and Bella is that Bella wants the world to know that MC is her man. Bella gives no fucks.
You think Bella gives a fuck? She has her dead husband locked up in room beside the bathroom.

 

[Malicre]

The difference between Jade and Bella is that Bella wants the world to know that MC is her man. Bella gives no fucks.
You think Bella gives a fuck? She has her dead husband locked up in room beside the bathroom.

Yup so its Leah all over again, she's just playing hard to get this time. Wonder how shit would go down on these forums if Bella stabbed Jill over who gets the MC.

 

[Casmyr]

Yup so its Leah all over again, she's just playing hard to get this time. Wonder how shit would go down on these forums if Bella stabbed Jill over who gets the MC.

Jill's gonna tell Bella that they didn't use protection and MC jr is growing inside her belly right, that's when Bella trips her down the stairs.

 

[Razrback16]

The difference between Jade and Bella is that Bella wants the world to know that MC is her man. Bella gives no fucks.
You think Bella gives a fuck? She has her dead husband locked up in room beside the bathroom.

lol ya, I will say it's funny, the song that plays during the Bella scene in MC's room has a chorus that goes something like "gunnin' for #1" and it feels almost like a personal competition for Bella between herself and Jill (and possibly other girls).

 

[ChipLecsap]

Oh, I'd put money on that. The question is why it's still possible to opt out of Bella entirely but not just the full court press.

It could be that DPC wants to offer more options than are realistic, so he plays the odds and hopes the player will pick the 'right' option. That would explain why some scenes make much more sense in certain playthroughs like Maya's "No Strings Attached" speech if the MC sleeps around, or Tybalt's blackmail if the MC punched him in full view of the fraternity. If that's the case, the odds are certainly stacked in DPC's favor on this one.

As you say, we can only guess.


EDIT:

I'm guessing turning down Bella will end the romance chance (at least for the foreseeable future). The MC will explicitly note that he didn't accept Bella's offer because he was afraid it might go too far:
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That sounds like a clear indication the inexplicable infatuation is over. Admittedly, I'm not sure how this would tie into a future breakdown if that happens. Perhaps it's just more hedging: the game certainly makes it easy to accept Bella's 'help.'

The official walkthrough say this much. It's seem like episode 6 is where the Romance can start with both Jill and Bella, interestingly its also can end it for Bella. .

 

[felicemastronzo]

Oh, I'd put money on that. The question is why it's still possible to opt out of Bella entirely but not just the full court press.

It could be that DPC wants to offer more options than are realistic, so he plays the odds and hopes the player will pick the 'right' option. That would explain why some scenes make much more sense in certain playthroughs like Maya's "No Strings Attached" speech if the MC sleeps around, or Tybalt's blackmail if the MC punched him in full view of the fraternity. If that's the case, the odds are certainly stacked in DPC's favor on this one.

As you say, we can only guess.


EDIT:

I'm guessing turning down Bella will end the romance chance (at least for the foreseeable future). The MC will explicitly note that he didn't accept Bella's offer because he was afraid it might go too far:
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That sounds like a clear indication the inexplicable infatuation is over. Admittedly, I'm not sure how this would tie into a future breakdown if that happens. Perhaps it's just more hedging: the game certainly makes it easy to accept Bella's 'help.'

for purely economic reasons, I believe that Mc will still be involved in Bella's collapse.

it is a scene that DPC has to create and it will be a scene with a great emotional impact, at which point to exclude it from the game of some players would be "a waste".

I give an example, not what I believe happens, just to make the speech concrete. let's say that Bella's breakdown is linked to her husband's return, directly or indirectly MC will be involved, she could ask for help from him directly Bella (as Sage does with the breakup with Chad) or indirectly, through for example Jill

if DPC has to tell that story he will show it to us, naturally with a different involvement and with different consequences

Honestly the Bella route has always been kind of weird, don't get me wrong she's hot at fuck but she never really felt like a teacher to me and to make matters worse she does some of the dumbest shit i've ever seen a teacher do like sleeping in the MC's room at the frat house and not leaving early.

At least Jade has some common sense and tries to keep things between them a secret and i know i know but there's a difference between one person finding out and an entire fraternity.

an accumulation of no sense ...

all supported by mysteries just hinted at

 

[Malicre]

Another thing on my own account.

I know myself very well and I know that sometimes I become too direct and determined.

If someone has the feeling that this is exactly what I am doing about them, I apologize and it is not meant to be.

I like it here on the thread, the people are great and I enjoy the discussions. If I ever go overboard, I will apologize in advance. I'm just a bit impulsive at times.

Translated with Google

Oh trust me, this fanbase is WAY better then some other ones iv recently been to.

 

[Lostanddamned]

for purely economic reasons, I believe that Mc will still be involved in Bella's collapse.

it is a scene that DPC has to create and it will be a scene with a great emotional impact, at which point to exclude it from the game of some players would be "a waste".

I give an example, not what I believe happens, just to make the speech concrete. let's say that Bella's breakdown is linked to her husband's return, directly or indirectly MC will be involved, she could ask for help from him directly Bella (as Sage does with the breakup with Chad) or indirectly, through for example Jill

if DPC has to tell that story he will show it to us, naturally with a different involvement and with different consequences



an accumulation of no sense ...

all supported by mysteries just hinted at

All of you make valid points, but I think the mysteries surrounding Bella will unravel in chapter 7 with the ultimate reveal coming in as a cliffhanger of chapter 8. In fact I think that the ending of chapter 8 will answer a lot of questions - Bella, Chad, Maya's dad, Burke, the blackmailer.

Here's what I think: the DIKs are at the mansion, celebrating the repair of the mansion, they are talking about how things were going and as they talk we'll see scenes of what happens with the other characters.

• Chad and Troy as it turns out are roommates now and both of them are delighted about the situation. We get a small scene of them talking in their room.
• Maya, having learned that there's no such thing as a free tuition and having been told by Quinn what she has to do for it, has a huge fight with her dad. She doesn't want to let go of Josy, but her dad puts up an ultimatum. Maya and Josy try to talk it out, with Josy trying to comfort her but it turns things only worse, with them having a huge fight and Josy leaving the room and possibly this is the end of the relationship.
• Sage is in her room, working on her thesis to graduate, when someone slides a letter beneath her door. The letter says that it's "from a friend" and when she opens it she finds pictures of Troy and Chad together and she finally figures everything out.
• Burke is sitting at the desk in his office and someone knocks on the door. Stephen tells him to come in and when the person does come in we don't see who it is. The person walks over to his desk and slides pictures to him and a usb, Burke smiles and the blackmailer leaves. Burke looks at the pictures and they are pictures of MC and Bella, from the night she helped him clean his room. Then he checks out the usb and finds a video of MC and Jade together in the storage room. Stephen smiles satisfiedly and says "well I guess it's time to cut some loose ends".
• Jill and Tybalt are attending a party together, due to the blackmail situation she has no choice but to comply with his wishes to save the MC.
• Quinn and Riona are under huge pressure, being way behind payments and the drug sales have slowed down. Quinn is also threatened by Burke that he will pin everything on her if their ring is revealed and he doesn't want to be known that he is involved in the prostitution ring and possibly the drug sales. Quinn and Riona are doing drugs together when Riona accidently overdoses and dies. Quinn breaks down crying.
• Bella's at her house, reading a book. The door bell rings and she thinks it's the MC, coming to see her. She goes and opens and it's James, he says "Hello, Isabella." as tears fall down a shocked Bella's face.
• End of Episode 8 and we get a black screen.

 

[shazba]

Another thing on my own account.

I know myself very well and I know that sometimes I become too direct and determined.

If someone has the feeling that this is exactly what I am doing about them, I apologize and it is not meant to be.

I like it here on the thread, the people are great and I enjoy the discussions. If these negative characteristics occur, I will apologize in advance. I'm just a bit impulsive at times.

Translated with Google

Dude, don’t worry about how you’re being translated, it comes across fine. You come across as an enthusiastic friendly person; I don’t think you’re upsetting anyone here; I think people are enjoying your posts.

 

[Malicre]

Then he checks out the usb and finds a video of MC and Jade together in the storage room.

Problem with that is that this scene isn't cannon and it depends on player actions.

Honestly the only cannonical stuff in this game is the early M&J stuff and now Maya's dad right?

EDIT: By cannonical i mean content everyone experiences regardless of affinity/rp/routes/alignment.