VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ChipLecsap]

Everyone seems to get it except akdomino . You really don't understand or you just trolling

 

[Casmyr]

I think there will be a new flashback to cover some other character.

so there's no shortage of choices, and it depends on what the narrative focus of the chapter will be.
it could be Sage and her family problems, it could be Jill and her sister's death, Bella and her marriage but also Tybalt or the Burke family.

Those are all great ideas for scenes but I feel that there too early for episode 7. I have a feeling that episode 7 will open with a scene between the MC's parents, I just have a feeling because of DPC doing more with Lynette's character model and hopefully it will officially end the 'aunt' theory.

 

[sorco2003]

That's right, this is the first main choice and this affects the MC's affinity until the end of the game. (EP20)

The second main choice can be very different.
Example: Whether Josy / Maya and MC are looking for an apartment off campus or whether MC will switch to the dark side of power and become the drug lord on campus.

no my friend, not what you choose, its matematical progresion. 11 2 11... if you choose 11 major decision in same direction, this affinity its over. no matter if the decision is simple like take a beer or not take a beer. If you have only one bar of that affinity, that affinity desapair.
And, this its not a main choice, this is a major choice, like take Quinn number or fight with Troy.

 

[akdomino]

but the sense is that ChipLecsap and sorco2003 illustrated above

by playing you accumulate major decisions one way or the other.
At the end of the sixth chapter you are in the situation that if you have always chosen one way, you can no longer be the opposite. if you have always made DIK choices you can no longer be Chick, and the other way around.

but the choice of fake documents is a choice like any other, if you have always made Chick choices up to then, it won't be that choice that turns you into DIK

You're right. DPC eliminates the NEUTRAL affinity. You can either have a CHICK or a DIK affinity. This remains until the end of the game.

 

[Arigon]

in which case we'll have a big gathering in Sweden and DPC will give us what Jill refused to give us.

As I piss on his computer as I promised to do now on more than one occasion!

 

[felicemastronzo]

Those are all great ideas for scenes but I feel that there too early for episode 7. I have a feeling that episode 7 will open with a scene between the MC's parents, I just have a feeling because of DPC doing more with Lynette's character model and hopefully it will officially end the 'aunt' theory.

The mystery of Bella sooner or later must be clarified or the character, at least for me, remains unplayable. certainly among the hypotheses that I have made is the most important for the plot, or even, it would have if MC knew about it, but at least it would make us players understand the situation.

The others are just curiosities, but I don't think they'll have much of an impact on the plot (like Maya and Josy's holiday, they gave a background to their story but it wasn't that enlightening).

also a flashback on Lynette and Neil is possible, but for that the diary should be enough

 

[ChipLecsap]

you know something i really like about josy...she wears thong bikinis. yum.

She always wear thong that's one of her best habit. You have no idea how more and more, I start to dislike that in order to be with her I have to sacrifice, so many other things, and that's because Maya is holding her back.
If I could have her sex scene in ep 5 regardless of, maya, if she would spread her legs and show me her thong regardless of maya, etc. I could drop the gender class, and go to, fuck Sarah instead, and also help and fuck quinn.
oh and kiss Lily

 

[akdomino]

no my friend, not what you choose, its matematical progresion. 11 2 11... if you choose 11 major decision in same direction, this affinity its over. no matter if the decision is simple like take a beer or not take a beer. If you have only one bar of that affinity, that affinity desapair.
And, this its not a main choice, this is a major choice, like take Quinn number or fight with Troy.

I agree with you.
My statement is really just that neutrality is over. There will be no more neutrality. The player is tied to one of the two affinities. And that is calculated from the previous style of play.

I notice that we are approaching. I think I wrote a little too much around the bush.

 

[Arigon]

She always wear thong that's one of her best habit. You have no idea how more and more, I start to dislike that in order to be with her I have to sacrifice, so many other things, and that's becasue Maya is holding her back.
If I could have her sex scene in ep 5 regardless of, maya, if she would spread her legs and show me her thong regardless of maya, etc. I could drop the gender class, and go to, fuck Sarah instead, and aslo help and fuck quinn.
oh and kiss Lily

yeah but Gender class lets you have Jade, which of course blocks Josy, which of course makes me sad.

 

[Razrback16]

Everyone seems to get it except akdomino . You really don't understand or you just trolling

lol if he's trolling it's a good one, very convincing.

 

[Meushi]

My statement is really just that neutrality is over. There will be no more neutrality. The player is tied to one of the two affinities. And that is calculated from the previous style of play.

Neutrality isn't over, the code indicates you'll get locked into Neutral if you manage to remain in the Neutral zone for 17 major choices.

Spoiler: def updateAffinity():

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[akdomino]

lol if he's trolling it's a good one, very convincing.

I am not interested in trolling.
I just wanted to illustrate my point and was overwhelmed by the discussion. I should have been more specific from the start.

 

[akdomino]

Neutrality isn't over, the code indicates you'll get locked into Neutral if you manage to remain in the Neutral zone for 17 major choices.

Spoiler: def updateAffinity():

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Impressive. I've never looked at the code before. I derived my statements from the official instructions alone.

But that's interesting. I should look at the code.
I am curious how DPC will implement the neutral branch in the code from EP7 onwards.

I'm glad because the neutral affinity gives multiple options in the game.

 

[Razrback16]

She always wear thong that's one of her best habit. You have no idea how more and more, I start to dislike that in order to be with her I have to sacrifice, so many other things, and that's becasue Maya is holding her back.
If I could have her sex scene in ep 5 regardless of, maya, if she would spread her legs and show me her thong regardless of maya, etc. I could drop the gender class, and go to, fuck Sarah instead, and also help and fuck quinn.
oh and kiss Lily

ya i agree completely. i think wearing thongs is something any woman who takes care of herself should be doing. my wife wears thongs about 95% of the time and that's how it should be. i frequently compliment her on them so she knows i appreciate it.

with josy, i agree with you, her sexy underwear is a very good trait. i am really hoping she becomes available in this upcoming episode - in my playthrough i told derek i still had feelings for josy and have tried to compliment her at every turn as an investment for later. she could have a really nice romance arc once she is available solo - gonna suck for maya, but i look forward to getting one on one time with her where MC can tell her he has feelings for her and get that door opened up again.

 

[Zidane3299]

is there a possibility that this might be ported to mobile ver.?

 

[rj677]

The screenshot shows that your choices are limited. They have no DIK or NEUTRAL affinity. They only have the CHICK affinity.
If you had a NEUTRAL affinity, both options would be open.

Since they had the affinity CHICK at that time, they couldn't change it.
It was because of the way you played. Up to FakeID, you have the option to change your affinity through your play style.

For example, I play affinity-neutral until the FakeID decision and with the FakeID decision I only commit to an AFFINITY (hopefully EP50) for the rest of the game.


With the FakeID decision, DPC removes such options.
You commit to AFFINITY.

As mentioned earlier, as a CHICK, you can still make DIK decisions that cannot be attributed to affinity, and vice versa.

I know this issue as already been debated heavily, so Im gonna keep my post short

You say this choice in particular is a Main Choice because it will make you commit to an AFFINITY, so Im gonna ask you 2 questions:

1- Do you think a player with Full DIK or Full CHICK choices up until that point (10 vs 0) (which are the only players that can be "locked" as of the Fake ID choice (Where Im included since Im a Full DIK choice player) ) really is bothered with the fact that he is locked? Do you think it isnt just "another day at the office" for them?

2- Im curious... Why do you play the Neutral path? (I know why a lot of people do it, I just want to see if you know deep inside your head why you are doing it )

PS: Actually, its 3 questions

 

[akdomino]

I know this issue as already been debated heavily, so Im gonna keep my post short

You say this choice in particular is a Main Choice because it will make you commit to an AFFINITY, so Im gonna ask you 2 questions:

1- Do you think a player with Full DIK or Full CHICK choices up until that point (10 vs 0) (which are the only players that can be "locked" as of the Fake ID choice (Where Im included since Im a Full DIK choice player) ) really is bothered with the fact that he is locked? Do you think it isnt just "another day at the office" for them?

2- Im curious... Why do you play the Neutral path? (I know why a lot of people do it, I just want to see if you know deep inside your head why you are doing it )

PS: Actually, its 3 questions

As you can see on the screenshot, you have a choice (DIK affinity or NEUTRAL affinity) (CHICK affinity or NEUTRAL affinity).

It follows that with DIK affinity or CHICK affinity you cannot really make a choice.

However, both options involve a NEUTRAL affinity. This enables a choice between the two options, as both options are activated by the NEUTRAL affinity.

I play (try to play) NEUTRAL affinity as my MC has more options to choose from.

 

[akdomino]

I know this issue as already been debated heavily, so Im gonna keep my post short

You say this choice in particular is a Main Choice because it will make you commit to an AFFINITY, so Im gonna ask you 2 questions:

1- Do you think a player with Full DIK or Full CHICK choices up until that point (10 vs 0) (which are the only players that can be "locked" as of the Fake ID choice (Where Im included since Im a Full DIK choice player) ) really is bothered with the fact that he is locked? Do you think it isnt just "another day at the office" for them?

2- Im curious... Why do you play the Neutral path? (I know why a lot of people do it, I just want to see if you know deep inside your head why you are doing it )

PS: Actually, its 3 questions

I missed a question.
With the FakeID decision based on your previous style of play (DIK, CHICK, NEUTRAL (thanks to Meushi)), your affinity will remain constant throughout the game. It's permanent.

Since I have no way of knowing how DPC writes its code in terms of affinity in EP7, it is difficult to predict anything.

 

[DavDR]

Those are all great ideas for scenes but I feel that there too early for episode 7. I have a feeling that episode 7 will open with a scene between the MC's parents, I just have a feeling because of DPC doing more with Lynette's character model and hopefully it will officially end the 'aunt' theory.

'Officially end the Aunt theory' Noooo, say it isn't so!

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Did Josy actually leave the HOTs? I think she's still going to be in the sorority. That preview we saw showed her in what appeared to be the pool at the HOT sorority.

Josy went to go comfort Maya after she slapped Quinn and stormed out, but it doesn't necessarily mean she won't still join the HOTs. You'd think that she shouldn't, that she should show solidarity with Maya and not join, but Josy does kinda seem to do her own thing every now and then and it seems like, even without the whole "tuition" stuff, she wants to be a HOT.

However, I think Josy staying with them will be more a matter of convenience than it is her choosing the HOTs over Maya.

In my mind because of what's going on with Maya's dad, the girls will likely decide Josy has to go somewhere else, so she'll move into the HOTs. That separation will likely open up solo routes with the girls and drive a wedge between them. MC will still have options to help Maya though I would imagine if the player wants to (hope nothing is forced).

I could see this. Something happens at the beginning of Ep7 and they decide that it's better for Josy to have a place at the HOT house to have plausible deniablility.

I see there being 1 of 3 potential scenarios:

1. They have a confrontation with her Dad when all 3 enter the room
2. Maya enters the room first and either Josy or Josy and the MC are waylayed allowing for Josy to be kept from going in the room
3. Maya's Dad isn't in the room when they get back.

The first scenario is certainly what I'm sure most people would want to see; a confrontation to end this sub-plot and let Maya move on and support herself without worrying about her Dad. It seems the simple, easy solution to end this part of the M&J story, but with so many episodes to go and DPC being very much big on drama, I think it's more likely that it won't end here and that the "Dad drama" will continue.

With the 2nd scenario, this seems like a likely way to stretch the drama out because if the Dad doesn't discover Josy, then this keeps that pressure up because now that they know the Dad can show up at any time, and it's not safe to be in the same room. Since Josy hasn't burned her bridges with the HOTs, she'll likely go stay with them, and even though they will still have classes together, it will still put strain on their relationship because Maya won't be welcome at the HOTs (Quinn will likely lay down that rule) and Josy can't spend time with Maya in her room in case her Dad shows up. Josy may even be pressured by certain HOTs to not hang our with Maya socially either, leading to more strain.

Finally, the 3rd scenario may seem "anti-climactic" to some, but I think it has the biggest potential for a dramatic twist because if they're all unaware of the fact that Maya's Dad can show up at any time, then their guard is very much down, and if he were to return when either all 3 of them are together or it's just Maya and Josy, this will be extremely bad for Maya to be caught in the act and her Dad is likely to go ballistic. The tension of knowing he could show up again would keep players on edge as you won't know when to expect it, and the fallout from this could be severe (not fatal, hopefully) leading to some very emotional and tense drama.

The other plausible outcomes seem to other subplots until the crisis is resolved) or else her dad has to back off his ultimatum (which badly undercuts his threat going forward). If he leaves before the trio arrives, it makes the cliffhanger a very unsatisfying anti-climax and still forces the MC to spend a bunch of time strategizing with the girls. If he falls for the old 'fake boyfriend trick' it plays out as a less plausible version of one of the previous options.

I don't know about the whole 'fake boyfriend' thing, at least not as a universal constant for all paths. If you're on the M&J path, then it may be that it happens automatically, much like the Cathy rejection in Ep 5 if you're on that path, but if you're not on the M&J path then it may be a choice and by choosing to say that you're Maya's boyfriend, that could start you down a Maya solo path. Whereas choosing not to and just saying you're her 'friend' would keep you in the friend zone but possibly be part of a Josy path since you didn't declare yourself "Maya's boyfriend".

My amigos, the past 3 episodes have started with a scene taking place in the past. Episode 4, M&J. Episode 5, Rusty and Tommy. Episode 6, Buddy and Rox.
What do you think episode 7 will open with?

Maya's Dad getting sexually assaulted by his priest when he was an altar boy which explains why he hates gay people.