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Is it possible to maintain chik affinity and beat derek at the end of hells week?
So far i got it tied 7-7, and somehow derek still wins.
It is possible. Probably need to make a couple dik choices but no major choices required. I did it once and maintain a massive chick status.
 
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Is it possible to maintain chik affinity and beat derek at the end of hells week?
So far i got it tied 7-7, and somehow derek still wins.
Technically yes, no matter what you do, you'll get 2 points for :

  • The gay guard alert.
  • The sexy car wash.
No matter what your affinity and Dik statut are, you'll be able to perform the following tasks. (3 points )

  • Beers (click on the beer cooler during every free roam in EP3 & 4).
  • Final slap (help Mona & Camila with the panties in EP3 then ask for their help in Ep4 )
  • Dik Helmet ( You can't wear it the first time with Chick affinity but you'll get the point if you wore it three times.
The following ones give you DIK points but don't affect your Affinity, so you can perform it on Chick Path. (3 points )

  • Win the Cumpetition Ep2
  • Tell Derek to take pictures of you on Tybalt's bed EP2
  • Put the condom in Dawe's shaker. EP3
If you paid Magnar for the wedgie in EP4, you won't have point but you'll also prevent Derek for having the point. (-1 point for Derek)

The last ones require DIK Affinity choice. (4 points )

  • Stripper signature ( Party without limit and ask for a private dance with Envy in EP3 ).
  • Sex outdoors ( Smoke weeds with Quinn and fuck her in EP4 ).
  • Fuck Teacher & Feminist (accept Jade's advances, fuck her and show the recorded video to Derek ).
If you intend to have Chick affinity to be on M&J path you can drop Jade but if most of your previous affinity choices were Chick, you can fuck Quinn & Envy without altering your affinity.

Doesn't Derek win because he sleeps with Wendy? She's a feminist and sex outdoors
The tie-breaker is the impossible task :BootyTime:
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Ilhares

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How many scenes are there for Heather?
None, unless you count her being in the hottub while you fiddle around with Sarah and Mel at a party later in the game.
edit: Oh right, and that brief bit of her playing with herself.
 

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Highly likely that the entire story covers MC’s 1st year. Also Sage is a 4th year.
3th year. ;). but I honestly don't know why nobody asked this question during Q/A, its not a too big spoiler at all, if we get a confirmation about a time frame.
 
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Idk how american education works, I'm Canadian, but that bimbo Heather says Sage is in her 'senior year'
lmao I was hoping you didn't catch my post moskyx
 

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Are we even playing the same game bruh?

I can step to this guy tho
Yes, that's the very exact line that raises all the discussion. But every other comment in game point to her being in her last academical year at B&R - which would mean that here "next year" refers to "next calendar year" or "next semester", as we're in september/october
 

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Idk how american education works, I'm Canadian, but that bimbo Heather says Sage is in her 'senior year'
lmao I was hoping you didn't catch my post moskyx
Sage is a fourth year, you know how weird the US is, right? They use miles instead of KM etc... Apparently in college they have calendar year and "year" year like the rest of the world. Sage is in her senior year and is also getting help from bella with her essay, therefore she is a 4th year
 

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Yeah ChipLecsap I'm still riding with you, even though I'm just remembering I had this debate back in October and lost it then I won't lose it now
 

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So... you're saying Jill is moving too fast for you? ;)

More seriously, though, I don't mind the MC automatically declining encounters in theory. But in practice I wish there was a coherent rationale for his decisions. The MC will automatically turn down Cathy if he's on M&J's path, yet he's happy to bang Nora or Envy AND Sandy. On Jill's path he'll turn down N/E&S, but he's still happy to fool around with Cathy, or even Jade. And he'll turn down simply kissing Lily (purely for her scavenger hunt!) even though he could pay her for a blowjob a mere one episode before.

It's hard to see pattern connecting those dots. Jill's path at least includes a monologue where the MC will call himself out for sleeping around, so it's possible he'll be more consistent now that he has that polaroid. But then again, Jade doesn't even come up in the monologue so maybe not. Maya & Josy is even worse, since the MC will brazenly say they agreed to an open relationship if Derek asks about Bella; can't very well claim he needed to turn down Lily, can he?

So yeah, I understand the need to keep the options to manageable level but I wish DPC would either give us bit more choice or stick with a more consistent explanation for the MC's choices.
This is the thing; narrative and character inconsistencies. Aside from what the MC can do before that Cathy non-decision, it's also contradicted by the fact that he can then have casual trysts with as many as 3 other women in the very next episode when he's still with M&J.

It doesn't even seem to be about managing options but more about managing storylines to avoid lots of branching and/or to avoid issues where certain plot threads won't be compatible later on down the line, but it doing so it creates these seemingly inexplicable inconsistencies in other aspects of the game.

I've been browsing that site, the DAZ one, how much do you think DPC has dropped on this game? In his post he said the game's expensive and I don't know how the music thing works but some of the prices on that site are crazy like character models and clothing
DPC might have paid for their assets, but there are websites where you can get literally hundreds of them for free, so any dev, both established and starting out, could get assets from these sites and it would save them a lot of money. The biggest expense is in the hardware because that's what's most necessary to produce high quality renders as quickly as possible.

I'm pretty convinced that these sudden dead ends are related to future situations in the game.

i.e., that at some point MC can't be both tied to Cathy and M+J, or Jill and Nichole, or Quinn and M+J (and maybe Jill and Sage).

and then to avoid this situation DPC places blocks earlier in the story

otherwise there would remain some really very arbitrary plot choices as you were pointing out.
It's possible these roadblocks are being put in place to prevent incompatible plot points and storylines later on, but if that's the case I'd say that's pretty poor planning on DPC's part.

What they'd essentially be doing here, if this is the case, is saying that there's something about being able to pursue something with Cathy that interferes with the M&J path in such a major way that they, the dev, have to take away your ability to choose to take things further with Cathy because they either haven't figured out how to make it work on the M&J path or have elected not to make it work, whether this would work out good or bad.

In either case, I think it reflects very poorly on them as a dev because aside from the fact that even lesser quality, choice-based VNs are able to make multiple paths compatible with each other, even if that compatibility means there's a consequence for your earlier decisions and for being on different paths, it also creates narrative inconsistencies as we've seen where he has no problem plowing his way through several girls at the party and will have a threesome with 2 strippers, but draws the line at Cathy for some reason.

I doubt it. Especially at the pace of the story, Holy Bacchus gave a pretty good time line of events happening in the game but who's to say there won't be a time skip.
This?

Doing this little chart reminds me that I made a post a while ago showing just how much the MC has and can get up to during his time at college but I hadn't updated it with the events of Ep 6...until now. ;)
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Sage is a fourth year, you know how weird the US is, right? They use miles instead of KM etc... Apparently in college they have calendar year and "year" year like the rest of the world. Sage is in her senior year and is also getting help from bella with her essay, therefore she is a 4th year
Well, I was wrong then. it happens, DPC fault, be more transparent :ROFLMAO:
 
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Sage is a fourth year, you know how weird the US is, right? They use miles instead of KM etc... Apparently in college they have calendar year and "year" year like the rest of the world. Sage is in her senior year and is also getting help from bella with her essay, therefore she is a 4th year
she also said she will graduate next year so she'll have a hard time managing HOTs at the same time. And she began working on that thesis of hers earlier than she should, again she said that herself. Well anyways, anyone can believe anything they want to here, because it's been discussed by the same group of people thinking the exact same thing.
 

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Well, I was wrong then. it happens, DPC fault, be more transparent :ROFLMAO:
DPC eat's rotten shark (it's a delicacy in his country thank you poodiepie) so it's DPC's fault that we got btfo'd

Holy Bacchus That was the post, and there was another one I think where you made a graph or something but I could have been mistaken.
 
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