VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[wombat123480808]

Does the full unlocked scenes in this cheatmod the entire scenes, or are they still limited to our chick-dik scores. Like if we are full diks, do scenes only available for chicks unlocked as well?

 

[Noelle Silva]

Does the full unlocked scenes in this cheatmod the entire scenes, or are they still limited to our chick-dik scores. Like if we are full diks, do scenes only available for chicks unlocked as well?

Every scene is unlocked

 

[OFT]

Quinn is pretty much irrelevant as it is, Maya wanting that "free tuition" that was rumored to exist is pretty much her only involvment with the general story so far. There might be a showdown between Quinn and Sage at some later point but that is not certain.

You can go through the game without any interaction with Quinn and nothing would be different in your play-trough since most of the information on Quinn we get from interlude events... which is something MC (and therefore us as players) should have no knowledge of.

That's like saying Indiana Jones was pretty much irrelevant in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yes, the movie would have ended the same if he had just stayed home, but there would have been practically no story.

 

[Ripe]

Quinn is irrelevant? Are you serious?! Quinn is the driving force behind a lot that's going to seriously impact this story, not to mention the fact that without Quinn pretty much the whole of Ep 5 wouldn't have happened because she made it happen, and the fact that it happened has created ripple effects with the DIKs, the HOTs, and most notably with Jill's storyline.

There's a reason why Quinn is included in the main banner despite not being a main LI and it's because she's the most relevant character in terms of her role and impact on the game.

She is behind a lot that might or might not affect the story but saying that without her E5 would not happen... that's giving her way too much credit. The only thing she was responsible was letting DIK's know that they will not attend their party because of the deal they made with AnO. Everything else is on DIK's being DIK's... and I'm not sure that Tommy wouldn't react the same even if they let DIK's know about them not showing in advance.

it depends on what you mean by irrelevant

are the LIs more relevant? Sage or Bella aside in their scenes how often do they appear?

all the BR's shady deals go through Quinn, present in every Diks party before the betrayal with the Preps, present in every situation involving the Hots, the restaurant, the drug trade...

Yes, all the shady deals go through Quinn but how does that affect MC at this point? Which one of her actions affected MC in any way? There is no betrayal with the Preps... there is just Quinn being a bitch and not letting Tommy and Rusty know they took a better offer. And like I said before, I'm not sure Tommy wouldn't have the same reaction even if they let DIK's know they will not show up in advance...

Sure they might be a showdown between Quinn and Sage down the road, but that is not a certainty.

That's like saying Indiana Jones was pretty much irrelevant in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yes, the movie would have ended the same if he had just stayed home, but there would have been practically no story.

And that is the same how exactly? Indiana Jones is protagonist of Raiders of the Lost Ark. He is MC of the story, not some minor side character that can be avoided and ignored.

 

[Gladheim]

Which game is this?

Family Matters

 

[Holy Bacchus]

That's like saying Indiana Jones was pretty much irrelevant in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yes, the movie would have ended the same if he had just stayed home, but there would have been practically no story.

Actually, Indy is entirely irrelevant in that film. If he hadn't been there in Nepal, then the Nazis would have got the headpiece from Marion, taken it to Egypt, found the Ark, taken it to that remote island, opened it, and then all died, just like what happened in the film. All Indy did was delay them a few times and give them a bit of aggravation.

With Quinn, she's heavily involved in a drug/prostitution scandal that could have an impact on several characters, one of them a main LI who's supposed to be in charge of the sorority, and if it wasn't for her then there would have been no crashing of the Prep party in Ep 5 and Jill wouldn't be getting blackmailed by Tybalt.

So Quinn is a key character in BaDIK, but Indy not so much, even though it's his own film.

She is behind a lot that might or might not affect the story but saying that without her E5 would not happen... that's giving her way too much credit. The only thing she was responsible was letting DIK's know that they will not attend their party because of the deal they made with AnO. Everything else is on DIK's being DIK's... and I'm not sure that Tommy wouldn't react the same even if they let DIK's know about them not showing in advance.

Quinn was the one who set up that party in the first place, so it's not "giving her too much credit" when all the credit actually does go to her. She went to Sage with the idea and had her arrange it with Tybalt because, you know, Sage is the HOT President, but it was 100% Quinn's idea. Without Quinn, it wouldn't have happened.

Yes, all the shady deals go through Quinn but how does that affect MC at this point? Which one of her actions affected MC in any way? There is no betrayal with the Preps... there is just Quinn being a bitch and not letting Tommy and Rusty know they took a better offer. And like I said before, I'm not sure Tommy wouldn't have the same reaction even if they let DIK's know they will not show up in advance...

Sure they might be a showdown between Quinn and Sage down the road, but that is not a certainty.

What Quinn's doing does and will affect the MC because it will affect those around him. Quinn's actions can and have had an impact on several characters close to the MC; Maya, Josy, Sage, Jill, and the DIKs. It will also have an impact on the HOTs in general and, you know, he might actually give a damn about that too.

Even if he doesn't take her number or do anything with her, her actions will still affect him and they already have with the whole Jill situation; the MC wouldn't have had to crash that party if she hadn't made it happen. It wasn't "a better offer" because there was no offer from the Preps. Quinn thought she could get these rich boys to buy some higher-end drugs like they were Wall Street brokers from the 80s, but this plan of hers failed and just ended up causing more problems than it solved.

And that is the same how exactly? Indiana Jones is protagonist of Raiders of the Lost Ark. He is MC of the story, not some minor side character that can be avoided and ignored.

You can avoid and ignore Quinn all you want, but her chickens will come home to roost in the MC's backyard because what she's doing will impact him by way of those around him that he's close to.

 

[Ripe]

Quinn was the one who set up that party in the first place, so it's not "giving her too much credit" when all the credit actually does go to her. She went to Sage with the idea and had her arrange it with Tybalt because, you know, Sage is the HOT President, but it was 100% Quinn's idea. Without Quinn, it wouldn't have happened.

What Quinn's doing does and will affect the MC because it will affect those around him. Quinn's actions can and have had an impact on several characters close to the MC; Maya, Josy, Sage, Jill, and the DIKs. It will also have an impact on the HOTs in general and, you know, he might actually give a damn about that too.

Even if he doesn't take her number or do anything with her, her actions will still affect him and they already have with the whole Jill situation; the MC wouldn't have had to crash that party if she hadn't made it happen. It wasn't "a better offer" because there was no offer from the Preps. Quinn thought she could get these rich boys to buy some higher-end drugs like they were Wall Street brokers from the 80s, but this plan of hers failed and just ended up causing more problems than it solved.

You can avoid and ignore Quinn all you want, but her chickens will come home to roost in the MC's backyard because what she's doing will impact him by way of those around him that he's close to.

Quinn might presented the idea but it was Sage who decided to go along with it. If Sage said no, we're going to DIK's there is nothing Quinn could do. And she choose to go along with that plan because it was better offer financially (and yes, it was a better offer) compared to what DIK's offered. Problem is that Sage didn't realized that Quinn planned to steal the money they got from AnO to attend their party so she could use it for herself.

The only thing Quinn did that caused the mess is not letting Rusty and Tommy know they won't be showing up... which is something she was supposed to do and something Sage (and pretty much every other HOT) believed Quinn did and were all surprised when MC let them know that she didn't do it. Well, that and Tommy being Tommy.

As for everything else... there is a whole lot of future tense you use to describe Quinn's importance to the story. Thing that will maybe happen at some point in the future. But in the present... she is almost completely irrelevant outside of Maya's storyline. She could just as easily be a shadow character that we haven't seen yet.

 

[Darkdevil66]

She is behind a lot that might or might not affect the story but saying that without her E5 would not happen... that's giving her way too much credit. The only thing she was responsible was letting DIK's know that they will not attend their party because of the deal they made with AnO. Everything else is on DIK's being DIK's... and I'm not sure that Tommy wouldn't react the same even if they let DIK's know about them not showing in advance.

Without Quinn the whole Drugs, prostitution & Free tuition plot wouldn't exist ,which means :

• The whole Maya arc of the last 6 episodes wouldn't exist. Maya would have no reason to join the HOTs, no reason to fulfill the list, no plan to escape her father. The grinding scene, the Cumpetition, the sex scene with Maya or Josy in ep5, the whole threesome in EP6 wouldn't have happened. The MC wouldn't have given a fuck about the scavenger hunt.
• Josy wouldn't have any reason to join the HOTs either. Same thing for Ashley whom has pledged just because a girl like Maya did it first.
• The MC wouldn't have run outside naked in EP1. His whole relationship with Bella, Derek & Maya would have changed.
• The Alpha's subplot involing the pills wouldn't exist. Dawe & Chad wouldn't fear of being exposed and the whole dynamic with the DIKs would have been different.
• The whole plot involving Mona, Camila, Burke & the tuition wouldn't exist.
• No secret deals or arrangements between Quinn & Tommy which means HOts & DIKs wouldn't have so much party together (Sage herself admitted it ). So no party with Sage in EP2, no party with the HOTs in EP4. The DIKs would have called the strippers for the celebration night, so the whole issue with the preps mansion and the trashing of DIKs mansion wouldn't have happened.

Yeah totally irrelevant.

 

[moskyx]

Without Quinn the whole Drugs, prostitution & Free tuition plot wouldn't exist ,which means :

• The whole Maya arc of the last 6 episodes wouldn't exist. Maya would have no reason to join the HOTs, no reason to fulfill the list, no plan to escape her father. The grinding scene, the Cumpetition, the sex scene with Maya or Josy in ep5, the whole threesome in EP6 wouldn't have happened. The MC wouldn't have given a fuck about the scavenger hunt.
• Josy wouldn't have any reason to join the HOTs either. Same thing for Ashley whom has pledged just because a girl like Maya did it first.
• The MC wouldn't have run outside naked in EP1. His whole relationship with Bella, Derek & Maya would have changed.
• The Alpha's subplot involing the pills wouldn't exist. Dawe & Chad wouldn't fear of being exposed and the whole dynamic with the DIKs would have been different.
• The whole plot involving Mona, Camila, Burke & the tuition wouldn't exist.
• No secret deals or arrangements between Quinn & Tommy which means HOts & DIKs wouldn't have so much party together (Sage herself admitted it ). So no party with Sage in EP2, no party with the HOTs in EP4. The DIKs would have called the strippers for the celebration night, so the whole issue with the preps mansion and the trashing of DIKs mansion wouldn't have happened.

Yeah totally irrelevant.

Yeah, well, but appart from that, what has she ever done for the plot?

 

[lemonfreak]

That's like saying Indiana Jones was pretty much irrelevant in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yes, the movie would have ended the same if he had just stayed home, but there would have been practically no story.

I have to disagree, any story that ends with nazis' faces melting is a story worth telling

 

[Hrllav]

i really hope zoey returns i feel like mc is gonna need a familiar face soon

 

[SenkuIshigami]

i really hope zoey returns i feel like mc is gonna need a familiar face soon

Josy’s return was traumatic enough for some people. With this post we’re reaching masochist levels.

 

[felicemastronzo]

it doesn't make sense for Zoey to show up at the Br, they could meet again only if MC went where she lives now, or at the limit to MC's hometown, but it is still very improbable

 

[Deleted member 3313072]

If Josy didn't have the story-arc between Maya, and she was just a regular character I would've advanced the plot with her, plain and simple, but in a way, she looks like she can be the sister of Megan from Acting Lessons. She can easily be a wild-card in this whole thing, and wild-cards are very unpredictable.

 

[Warscared]

Quinn might presented the idea but it was Sage who decided to go along with it. If Sage said no, we're going to DIK's there is nothing Quinn could do. And she choose to go along with that plan because it was better offer financially (and yes, it was a better offer) compared to what DIK's offered. Problem is that Sage didn't realized that Quinn planned to steal the money they got from AnO to attend their party so she could use it for herself.

The only thing Quinn did that caused the mess is not letting Rusty and Tommy know they won't be showing up... which is something she was supposed to do and something Sage (and pretty much every other HOT) believed Quinn did and were all surprised when MC let them know that she didn't do it. Well, that and Tommy being Tommy.

As for everything else... there is a whole lot of future tense you use to describe Quinn's importance to the story. Thing that will maybe happen at some point in the future. But in the present... she is almost completely irrelevant outside of Maya's storyline. She could just as easily be a shadow character that we haven't seen yet.

it was the only offer, had Rusty knew or the other HOT a decision in it then things would have went down differently, i normally dislike agreeing with Holy but truth comes before everything and i will work with anyone to uphold the truth!

she did not stole, her plan was drugs! and some meat action from Stephen and 1 or 2 other big targets, like the MC with Rhyona (Mel and Sarah cleaning themselfs in the bath makes me wonder who they boned... my money is on sage`s father, also Camilla at the bar waiting for a target)

rusty could have equaled the offer or made a better one, without it Sage had no other option to weight against! it would have been cheaper for the DIk too the ANO payed perhaps 20 orange bucks, that against the destruction on the mansion that easily beats 120 orange bucks when you add the work!

- had it went for a vote Quinn might have still won with her inner support but Elena and heather would have put one hell of a fight, had Arieth and Sage voted against Quinn`s 4 votes (Q, Mel, Rhyo, Sweet Sarah) because Arieth wants the MC dick, by keeping it only Sage and Quinn decision with Sage with too much on her plate she got the ANO party! i mean in case of a tie where do the pledges stand?

Had Sage decided to go against Q that would open an useless feud that Sage can do without and Quinn does not wish, Quinn is of the shadows anything that draws attention to her puts her at risk! So no Sage could not have just said no and Quinn would not stir up a fight had she said no but there would be consequences!

Without it no mansion trashing no full out fire on the Jock vs DIK feud no tysbits blackmail, and as i stated there was plenty of very expensive stuff in that mansion so the priçe has to be settled by someone! I suspect that tydbits even stole a painting or 2 claiming it got destroyed to line up his bank account (now that is a plot twist...)!

Quinn is already a shadow character what we know and what she is is osculated in a game of smoke and shadows! or as i stated half drunk "where the light shines bright the shadows will/can not protect you"

moskyx me encanta esa referencia!

 

[Kellermann]

If Josy didn't have the story-arc between Maya, and she was just a regular character I would've advanced the plot with her, plain and simple, but in a way, she looks like she can be the sister of Megan from Acting Lessons. She can easily be a wild-card in this whole thing, and wild-cards are very unpredictable.

Yep, that's one of the reasons I call Megan from AL, Discount Josy. An uglier version of Josy and DPC used his same idea of assuming I'd immediately be in love with a girl just because she's there. It took many more episodes and Josy coming to B&R before I put her on my yes list. However, the character Megan never worked for me.

I never liked the AVN strategy of starting out with a girlfriend or LI. The writer is assuming I'll be in love with her from the beginning. But what if I'm not? That pretty much blows the entire narrative out of the water (especially in AL). Thankfully, I warmed up to Josy later, but that's a risk DPC seems to like taking in his stories.

 

[duningtwo]

I never liked the AVN strategy of starting out with a girlfriend or LI.

yes, poor trend, too commonplace.

I warmed up to Josy later

i hope bella warms josy up in a house fire.

 

[Deleted member 3313072]

I actually find Megan better just because of her personality, but that's just me. But it's like I said earlier, I was also biased because of the real girl named Megan in my life. Maybe if Josy's route was different from the beginning I would've changed how I think about her. I have no intention on going that route even when I finish the game after the pure Jill route I'm on. The ONLY way I would chase Josy is if, down the line, her single route becomes available, but it would take a lot of willpower for me to do that knowing she interacts with Jill in the later episodes.

Yeah it's like a game I played last week (A Mother's Love) where you start off with an LI (Chloe) who I couldn't personally stand and couldn't wait to drop her like a potato sack and just focus on Nicole (her mother.)

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yep, that's one of the reasons I call Megan from AL, Discount Josy. An uglier version of Josy and DPC used his same idea of assuming I'd immediately be in love with a girl just because she's there. It took many more episodes and Josy coming to B&R before I put her on my yes list. However, the character Megan never worked for me.

I never liked the AVN strategy of starting out with a girlfriend or LI. The writer is assuming I'll be in love with her from the beginning. But what if I'm not? That pretty much blows the entire narrative out of the water (especially in AL). Thankfully, I warmed up to Josy later, but that's a risk DPC seems to like taking in his stories.

not quite the same situation

Josy more than being MC's girlfriend, the chosen one, is in fact his ex right away.
They basically just say goodbye to each other at every opportunity (goodbye, I'm going to college, goodbye, I'm not going to college, goodbye, you're a liar, goodbye, Maya is scared).

 

[Kellermann]

yes, poor trend, too commonplace.

i hope bella warms josy up in a house fire.

Yeah it's like a game I played last week (A Mother's Love) where you start off with an LI (Chloe) who I couldn't personally stand and couldn't wait to drop her like a potato sack and just focus on Nicole (her mother.)

One of the most important choices an AVN can give a player is the choice of which LI(s) to romance (or not). In almost every game I play that starts me out with a girlfriend, I immediately look for ways to dump her or cheat on her. I'd rather be the master of my own romantic destiny thank you. A big reason AL didn't affect me emotionally is I didn't give a damn about Megan and was quite happy to leave her at the BBQ.

not quite the same situation

Josy more than being MC's girlfriend, the chosen one, is in fact his ex right away.
They basically just say goodbye to each other at every opportunity (goodbye, I'm going to college, goodbye, I'm not going to college, goodbye, you're a liar, goodbye, Maya is scared).

Girlfriend/LI/Ex, no matter. The point is DPC assumes I am already in love with Josy at the start of the game when in fact I, the player, am not.