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Kellermann

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I don't think we are ever going to go back to 3-month developments for episodes. As the equipment improves and income grows, so does each episode's ambition. I believe DPC wants to constantly add new things, whether they are more phone apps, more mini-games, more redesigns, more non-lewd animations, or just longer animations in general. All of that is not necessarily a bad thing, but I do think the short turnarounds are gone forever.
 

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I don't think we are ever going to go back to 3-month developments for episodes. As the equipment improves and income grows, so does each episode's ambition. I believe DPC wants to constantly add new things, whether they are more phone apps, more mini-games, more redesigns, more non-lewd animations, or just longer animations in general. All of that is not necessarily a bad thing, but I do think the short turnarounds are gone forever.
there is a physiological reason for the growth of the episodes, in the first season most of the scenes were for all players, the more we go on the more we lose content, so to make the average play time long enough, the overall length of the episode has to increase. and for this we can only be grateful to DPC.


instead for minigames and mobile updates... less, much less grateful
 

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there is a physiological reason for the growth of the episodes, in the first season most of the scenes were for all players, the more we go on the more we lose content, so to make the average play time long enough, the overall length of the episode has to increase. and for this we can only be grateful to DPC.


instead for minigames and mobile updates... less, much less grateful
Oh the GBs when this is all said and done. The poor laptop. Yeah, mobile phone apps, *sigh* DPC doesn't have to be Apple and give us constant phone upgrades. I liked the basics we had at the beginning. Everything we needed without all the bloat.

Anyway, I guess I can get used to 4 months between episodes (what choice do I have?), but I will be sad if it's always 5-6 months.
 

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Oh the GBs when this is all said and done. The poor laptop. Yeah, mobile phone apps, *sigh* DPC doesn't have to be Apple and give us constant phone upgrades. I liked the basics we had at the beginning. Everything we needed without all the bloat.

Anyway, I guess I can get used to 4 months between episodes (what choice do I have?), but I will be sad if it's always 5-6 months.
Now I'm going to say something very hypocritical, but I take responsibility for it.

for how it works Patreon, DPC has no motivation to shorten production time, absolutely none

if tomorrow he could release the seventh chapter, but a sudden attack of diarrhea made him postpone the publication of 24 hours, he would have gained $$$$$$$$ more. without doing anything.

it's a hypocritical consideration because having never donated a $ to any developer i have no right to complain, but the situation is this

to lengthen too much the time could make him lose some impatient patreon, but to shorten them he has really nothing to gain.
 

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Now I'm going to say something very hypocritical, but I take responsibility for it.

for how it works Patreon, DPC has no motivation to shorten production time, absolutely none

if tomorrow he could release the seventh chapter, but a sudden attack of diarrhea made him postpone the publication of 24 hours, he would have gained $$$$$$$$ more. without doing anything.

it's a hypocritical consideration because having never donated a $ to any developer i have no right to complain, but the situation is this

to lengthen too much the time could make him lose some impatient patreon, but to shorten them he has really nothing to gain.
I doubt he is going to lose many patreons at this point. He loses more by kicking people out than by people getting frustrated and leaving. We are all hooked and in it for the long haul. But yes, the longer it goes the more money to be made. I think secretly that is one reason he was so quick to state he wasn't focusing on shorter dev times after he got his upgrades. Partly because he wants to expand and genuinely make each episode better, but partly because it helps the bottom line.
 

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I doubt he is going to lose many patreons at this point. He loses more by kicking people out than by people getting frustrated and leaving. We are all hooked and in it for the long haul. But yes, the longer it goes the more money to be made. I think secretly that is one reason he was so quick to state he wasn't focusing on shorter dev times after he got his upgrades. Partly because he wants to expand and genuinely make each episode better, but partly because it helps the bottom line.
supporters have a very strong inertia, there are dead games that are not abandoned by them anyway....

but in my opinion a significant delay (2-3 months more) would lead to losses among patreons (maybe minor ones) even for DPC.

probably the fact of giving constant updates would limit the damages
 
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supporters have a very strong inertia, there are dead games that are not abandoned by them anyway....

but in my opinion a significant delay (2-3 months more) would lead to losses among patreons (maybe minor ones) even for DPC.

probably the fact of giving constant updates would limit the damages
2-3 months more, you mean like a 6+ month dev time? Wow, well then yes I believe you might start to get some rage-quitters. I don't think I could handle a gap in the action of that long. There is a limit to every man's patience. Even Jill wouldn't hold out on us for that long.
 

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Now I'm going to say something very hypocritical, but I take responsibility for it.

for how it works Patreon, DPC has no motivation to shorten production time, absolutely none

if tomorrow he could release the seventh chapter, but a sudden attack of diarrhea made him postpone the publication of 24 hours, he would have gained $$$$$$$$ more. without doing anything.

it's a hypocritical consideration because having never donated a $ to any developer i have no right to complain, but the situation is this

to lengthen too much the time could make him lose some impatient patreon, but to shorten them he has really nothing to gain.
I was a patron of DPC, and only DPC, as I really think he's masterful in every aspect of this genre. But a wait THIS long was a bit too much for me (I do appreciate the content and the quality of it, don't get me wrong, but I can wait a bit longer to get it without paying every month for a weekly progress update for months)
 

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I don't think we are ever going to go back to 3-month developments for episodes. As the equipment improves and income grows, so does each episode's ambition. I believe DPC wants to constantly add new things, whether they are more phone apps, more mini-games, more redesigns, more non-lewd animations, or just longer animations in general. All of that is not necessarily a bad thing, but I do think the short turnarounds are gone forever.
Think about what all of this is going to do to the size of the episode's too.
 
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supporters have a very strong inertia, there are dead games that are not abandoned by them anyway....

but in my opinion a significant delay (2-3 months more) would lead to losses among patreons (maybe minor ones) even for DPC.

probably the fact of giving constant updates would limit the damages
I'd wager a lot of the patrons, especially the cheaper ones, don't really care too much. Once you make the 10-20 buck commitments, it's too much effort to cancel it.

I end up subscribing to services that I barely use but yet keep it for months on end.

I don't patron games though because even though I understand that you're supporting the developer the idea of paying so much for a game doesn't commute.
 

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Oh the GBs when this is all said and done. The poor laptop. Yeah, mobile phone apps, *sigh* DPC doesn't have to be Apple and give us constant phone upgrades. I liked the basics we had at the beginning. Everything we needed without all the bloat.

Anyway, I guess I can get used to 4 months between episodes (what choice do I have?), but I will be sad if it's always 5-6 months.
depending when you started playing the basic varies greatly! evreryone agrees with you nobody agrees on what the concept of basic is!

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it was a facepalm consider it a facepalm i keep my promises today and perhaps tomorrow all your posts will get a facepalm!

Now I'm going to say something very hypocritical, but I take responsibility for it.

for how it works Patreon, DPC has no motivation to shorten production time, absolutely none

if tomorrow he could release the seventh chapter, but a sudden attack of diarrhea made him postpone the publication of 24 hours, he would have gained $$$$$$$$ more. without doing anything.

it's a hypocritical consideration because having never donated a $ to any developer i have no right to complain, but the situation is this

to lengthen too much the time could make him lose some impatient patreon, but to shorten them he has really nothing to gain.
but you loose in growth, every new project you get that reaches a new demographic or market brings in more people! DIk brings a certain crowd Al brought another and his next project will bring another crowd so the faster you finish your projects for as long as you do no compromise in quality means wealth increase! just because he makes green bucks does not mean once he reaches 25k patrons he will not be making the orange bucks!

ofc he will need to find a new angle, perhaps a buddy cop comedy or a Beta life to reach his new market, so the longer he takes to finish or update the staler his brand becomes and fewer and fewer clients he will find going forward! there`s a reason why companies like Netflix Tesla Uber or Google spent at least 1 decade not giving profit and eating up investment money! its called growth the moment you choose to act on the profit your growth potential pays... but the moment you turn 1 billion users into 100 million 10$ payers the 250 to 500 millions you lost you recover in 1 year and then some moving forward! if you fallow the other path after 10 years you´re making 10-50 millions a year and every new customer as an higher price to make market penetration!

the dangers of such strategies is if your moats to entry into the market you just created is not enough to keep competition at bay for long enough for you to make the turn around such as whats happening with Youtube, every time they try to a turnaround a new competitor appears and a few clients abdicate the service and get Disney+ or Netflix! but i attribute it to their monetization system being run by great marketeers (the best that money can buy) and not really creative people like me!

Kellermann do not underestimate the power of blueballs mountain queen many a Mark takagi have suffered by such assumptions

as for me paying as a patreon is not for me i use steam by giving a friend the money and he buys it for me as a present, do not trust the interwebs with your wallet!
 
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I don't understand what role Lucas should have according to you?
As a means of convincing Jill that a) there was no fire, and b) the MC was neither responsible for a fire or setting off the sprinklers.

Josy said she knew Lucas from one of her classes and they seemed at least friendly enough that he gave her a wave in the cafeteria, so if the MC were to loop Josy in on what's going on with Jill with regards to the Tybalt situation, she could maybe leverage this acquaintance with Lucas to help the MC by talking to Jill.

This seems to be the prevailing theory.


There's a big lewd scene in particular that I spent 2.5 days working on. This branching lewd scene is my biggest one yet. It has 69 animations and more than 200 static renders.
I wonder when they say, "branching lewd scene" if they mean that the lewd scene itself with be branching depending on the path you're on, or if it's just one large lewd scenes on a particular branch? :unsure:

Still, 5000+ renders is just insane. If every update from now is anywhere near that size then I don't see how there will be 15+ episodes.
Oh, there can still be 15+ episodes because it all depends on exactly what these renders and animations cover in terms of the overall story and the in-game timeframe. This episode could easily be 20% story progression and 80% filler if DPC wanted it to be and make very little progress with all the plotpoints and story threads. So just because there's a high render and animation doesn't mean that there will be a lot of progress in the story, just look at Ep 5 and 6. Both episodes have barely moved the story very much and have included long sections of content that feel like filler; Prep party, yoga with Bella and Jill, pancake flipping, the mansion repair mini-game, and DnG.

Quinn/Riona/Sage here I come. That scene is going to be hype.

Jade was my second choice for wallpaper. Quinn next week.
I still have very serious doubts that that preview will lead to anything lewd/sexual, at least one that involves all 4. People felt like there was a real departure from Jill's established character in Ep 6 for giving in to Tybalt's empty threat, if Sage were to have a foursome with 2 of her HOT sistes and her FWB/the guy she's falling for, this would equally seem a real departure of Sage's character too.

Nothing we've seen up until this point would seem to indicate that Sage is this type of girl, not simply her having any bisexual tendencies, but being someone who is willing to share a guy that she's seeing/hooking up with. It would honestly feel like pandering to include a lewd scene with the 4 of them because there really doesn't seem to be anything about Sage that feels as though this is something she would do and would just feel like DPC is ruining their own creation by making out-of-character lewd scenes just to give people more fap material.
 
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Kellermann do not underestimate the power of blueballs mountain queen many a Mark takagi have suffered by such assumptions
Oh believe me I know.
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ofc he will need to find a new angle, perhaps a buddy cop comedy or a Beta life to reach his new market
I'm curious what everyone thinks DPC's next game will be? He said it will be set in modern times. A college sex game will be difficult to top. Let's hope he doesn't go back to house fires and fatal illnesses.
 
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