VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[godkingxerxes]

Why would you have an ax in a toolshed?
Im not exp in gardening but i dont think u use an ax for that kinda stuff
And if you cut wood that wolda make sense but i dont see no woods xD

An axe is a tool, tools go in a toolshed. It's not a Battle Axe, she won't be using her axe to cut up dead bodies with.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

An axe is a tool, tools go in a toolshed. It's not a Battle Axe, she won't be using her axe to cut up dead bodies with.

I mean... she COULD. Axe is an axe. Choppy chop chop.

 

[duningtwo]

but where does she mine for ore???

 

[KingDick77]

Fucking he'll how is this conversation still going on, it's just repetitive and boring now, new people jumping in and saying the same things that were said yesterday that lead to multiple posts getting deleted.

But to reiterate again because I love being dragged back in, Maya is a liar, and a manipulator. These are cold facts that not even her number one fans can deny.

And because of those character traits we don't know if she's telling the truth about dear old daddy.

I 100% agree with you. Also Josy is a hypocrite too, a example of this is in ep 6 when you didn't fight Tommy and Josy kicks him in the nuts depending if you are in their relationship or not. I mean if you really are good friends with MC why didn't she do it in the friends route. Is MC just a errand boy for M&J if he is not relationships with them?

 

[godkingxerxes]

I 100% agree with you. Also Josy is a hypocrite too, a example of this is in ep 6 when you didn't fight Tommy and Josy kicks him in the nuts depending if you are in their relationship or not. I mean if you really are good friends with MC why didn't she do it in the friends route. Is MC just a errand boy for M&J if he is not relationships with them?

I think she does kick him but we don't see it if not in the relationship. There's a scene where he answers the door holding his nuts and doesn't talk about it.

 

[DavDR]

Yes, but Steve isn't hitting rock bottom because he feels bad about his actions against Josy and MC. He simply feels bad for himself. He is thinking more of how his parents break up is affecting him than his parents. I don't think he had even a sliver of self reflection concerning his own behaviour over the summer. Now MC's olive branch may be the kindness he needs to change his ways, but we don't fully know that yet. The fact remains he is guilty of greater unrepentant crimes than Dad Maya yet he is a character people are more quick to forgive. Makes you wonder why that is.

Helping Steve or not isn't a reflection of Steve's "worthiness", it's a reflection on the MC's compassion.

 

[KingDick77]

I think she does kick him but we don't see it if not in the relationship. There's a scene where he answers the door holding his nuts and doesn't talk about it.

But why it didn't show?

 

[ename144]

Fucking hell how is this conversation still going on, it's just repetitive and boring now, new people jumping in and saying the same things that were said yesterday that lead to multiple posts getting deleted.

But to reiterate again because I love being dragged back in, Maya is a liar, and a manipulator. These are cold facts that not even her number one fans can deny.

And because of those character traits we don't know if she's telling the truth about dear old daddy.

Maya withholds information, but we've only caught her saying one thing that turned out to be untrue (the fake boyfriend). I consider that lie so minor as to be irrelevant.

So could you please provide evidence that she is a compulsive liar and manipulator? Otherwise, I see no reason at this time to dismiss her account and several reasons to support it (the Episode 4 flashback and Derek's "It was secret for a reason!" line in particular).

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I 100% agree with you. Also Josy is a hypocrite too, a example of this is in ep 6 when you didn't fight Tommy and Josy kicks him in the nuts depending if you are in their relationship or not. I mean if you really are good friends with MC why didn't she do it in the friends route. Is MC just a errand boy for M&J if he is not relationships with them?

She *does* kick Tommy in the friends route; you'll see Tommy with an ice pack during the party. We just never see the flashback where it happens so the injury is never explained.

 

[skinnyft]

Ep 7 can't come soon enough because then people will finally see what a bastard Maya's Dad really is.

And they will, when maya and josy enter the room and see her father siting there

 

[duningtwo]

Maya withholds information, but we've only caught her saying one thing that turned out to be untrue (the fake boyfriend). I consider that lie so minor as to be irrelevant.

So could you please provide evidence that she is a compulsive liar and manipulator? Otherwise, I see no reason at this time to dismiss her account and several reasons to support it (the Episode 4 flashback and Derek's "It was secret for a reason!" line in particular).

she joins a sorority of sluts (her word) solely because she wants free money from them, not friends or sisterhood. mc joins a fraternity because he wants a place to live, but he finds friends and brotherhood. shows character growth on his part. maya storms out when she doesn't get paid.

 

[ename144]

she joins a sorority of sluts (her word) solely because she wants free money from them, not friends or sisterhood. mc joins a fraternity because he wants a place to live, but he finds friends and brotherhood. shows character growth on his part. maya storms out when she doesn't get paid.

Isn't that a case of Maya herself being manipulated? Quinn lied to her, so Maya slapped Quinn and left. I doubt the MC would have been anywhere near as eager to rebuild the mansion if Rusty been saying all DIKs get rooms only to renounce that once Hell Week was over.

 

[Deleted member 6239]

Finished ep6 now. I just wanna say... fuck.

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[DavDR]

Isn't that a case of Maya herself being manipulated? Quinn lied to her, so Maya slapped Quinn and left. I doubt the MC would have been anywhere near as eager to rebuild the mansion if Rusty been saying all DIKs get rooms only to renounce that once Hell Week was over.

That's really shifting the moral responsibility. Maya made the decision to join the HOT's based upon a rumor that she would get free tuition. It was her intent to join strictly for monetary gain. She decided to use the HOT's, Quinn's behavior had nothing to do with it.

 

[Deleted member 6239]

I doubt the MC would have been anywhere near as eager to rebuild the mansion if Rusty been saying all DIKs get rooms only to renounce that once Hell Week was over.

Well to be fair I don't see Rusty backstabbing like that, but even if he went back on his word about DIKs getting rooms I'm sure he would've had a good explanation and then MC could've probably stayed with Bella. Bella even mentioned that she didn't want MC to not have a place to live when they talked and she was working out.

 

[duningtwo]

Isn't that a case of Maya herself being manipulated? Quinn lied to her, so Maya slapped Quinn and left. I doubt the MC would have been anywhere near as eager to rebuild the mansion if Rusty been saying all DIKs get rooms only to renounce that once Hell Week was over.

she made her decision to join the hots based on a rumour, not anything quinn told her. nevermind her stupidity for believing it in the first place, her singular reason for joining was incredibly disingenuous and when she didn't get what she wanted she freaked out like a child and (seemingly, i guess it's not 100% yet) abandoned the sorority. you're focusing on her leaving instead of why she joined, which was under false pretenses aka a lie. she was manipulating the sisters and situation for her personal gain. she didn't want to be a member.

 

[Kellermann]

Helping Steve or not isn't a reflection of Steve's "worthiness", it's a reflection on the MC's compassion.

Then the question becomes why does the player feel their MC should show compassion for Steve and not for Dad Maya when neither one has expressed any contrition for their evil acts?

I say they are both bad. But it's interesting to me that so many are quick to let Steve off the hook but not Dad Maya.

 

[playa2]

linear or choice based ?

 

[duningtwo]

Finished ep6 now. I just wanna say... fuck.

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is telling jill after the tennis date you're not the right guy for her not making that decision earlier? after that she seems firmly friendzoned based on the chapter end summary. seems to me in a super dik playthrough in which you shoot down jill and bella and choose friendship with maya and josy that all four of those trains are off the tracks. would be bizarre for any of them to return to love interest status later.

 

[Deleted member 6239]

is telling jill after the tennis date you're not the right guy for her not making that decision earlier? after that she seems firmly friendzoned based on the chapter end summary. seems to me in a super dik playthrough in which you shoot down jill and bella and choose friendship with maya and josy that all four of those trains are off the tracks. would be bizarre for any of them to return to love interest status later.

Actually yea, you are probably right. I meant it in CHICK playthrough context, where you play as the guy who doesn't wanna hurt anyones feelings and let things develop naturally. Like if you are given the option of ending it yourself and continuing you still pick continue but for me it felt like Sage/Jill decision was you pick one and the other isn't pursuable. I could be wrong though.

 

[DavDR]

Then the question becomes why does the player feel their MC should show compassion for Steve and not for Dad Maya when neither one has expressed any contrition for their evil acts?

I say they are both bad. But it's interesting to me that so many are quick to let Steve off the hook but not Dad Maya.

I agree with you there, I'd choose to show compassion for both of them. But if Steve is guilty of sexual assault for touching Josey isn't Maya also guilty of sexual assault?