VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Pendrell]

I see the whole "Quinn isn't a LI she's a side girl" discussion has cycled round again! Not sure why some are still so hung up on emphasising the distinction. If it's an attempt to diminish Quinn's importance I think it fails, honestly. She's arguably a more significant character in the story than many of the official LIs, the MC is effectively building a relationship with her already with several flags and triggers needed to get her scenes, and it seems possible that there will be an ending with her (or at the very least a "Quinn path", to some degree). I think you could even make a case that she's in a unique category of her own - beyond the LI/side girl nomenclature. I guess my point is: if she eventually generates RP and has an episode ending recap, great - I guess I'd like to see it just to see the reaction of the naysayers! If not, I don't see that it matters much in terms of the story or her contribution to it.

 

[alex13_zen]

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After some talk with the big man himself. Quinn will be promoted to love interest definitely. And all you doubters are dumb dumbs doubting the majestic pussy of this white haired Queen among Queen. (Still below the goddess KRJ). And while the rest of you chase two cheaters, a psychotic adultress, and a slut, I will get the true happy end with Queen Quinn.

Wait why are you calling Bella psychotic?! I assume she's the adulteress but I don't remember her doing anything crazy. Except maybe for having a mysterious locked door in her home
And speaking of ranking the queens, maybe you forgot she's the Ice Queen. She was seriously badass in that Dungeons and gremlins game

 

[Lostanddamned]

Here's an interesting question; if you could replace all 5 main LIs with side girls, who would you pick?

For me, in no particular order:

1. Nicole
2. Quinn
3. Camila
4. Lily
5. Cathy

1. Camila
2. Jade
3. Mona
4. Sarah
5. Cathy

 

[Darkmetal]

People forgetting that this render was released just 2 months-ish ago?

...but that's not MC lying there on the floor. Someone with an ice pick screwdriver and not afraid to use it sounds like a pretty useful lady to have to me.

 

[lemonfreak]

I see the whole "Quinn isn't a LI she's a side girl" discussion has cycled round again! Not sure why some are still so hung up on emphasising the distinction. If it's an attempt to diminish Quinn's importance I think it fails, honestly. She's arguably a more significant character in the story than many of the official LIs, the MC is effectively building a relationship with her already with several flags and triggers needed to get her scenes, and it seems possible that there will be an ending with her (or at the very least a "Quinn path", to some degree). I think you could even make a case that she's in a unique category of her own - beyond the LI/side girl nomenclature. I guess my point is: if she eventually generates RP and has an episode ending recap, great - I guess I'd like to see it just to see the reaction of the naysayers! If not, I don't see that it matters much in terms of the story or her contribution to it.

I can't speak for others but the reason I make the distinction is that, without agreed upon terms, any discussion is much harder to have; if you substitute banana for table, you know what you mean but you can't expect everyone else to.

It might seem pointless to get into semantics over LI vs side girl but when people use the terms interchangably it invites confusion and arguements. So, for simplicity if nothing else LI = Bella, Jill, Josy, Maya and Sage. Side girl = every other girl with a sex scene. Are some side girls are more important that others? Yes, of course and in the movie adaptation the actress playing Quinn might be up for 'best leading' rather than 'best supporting' at the golden globes but, within the game's mechanics, she's a side girl and has been from the very start.

 

[bobby677]

So is Quinn just getting updated it will Bella and jill be updated to?
Thanks

 

[Pendrell]

I can't speak for others but the reason I make the distinction is that, without agreed upon terms, any discussion is much harder to have; if you substitute banana for table, you know what you mean but you can't expect everyone else to.

It might seem pointless to get into semantics over LI vs side girl but when people use the terms interchangably it invites confusion and arguements. So, for simplicity if nothing else LI = Bella, Jill, Josy, Maya and Sage. Side girl = every other girl with a sex scene. Are some side girls are more important that others? Yes, of course and in the movie adaptation the actress playing Quinn might be up for 'best leading' rather than 'best supporting' at the golden globes but, within the game's mechanics, she's a side girl and has been from the very start.

In truth though most discussions about this distinction are not simply a labelling exercise to clarify what people are referring to, are they? They're often being used to try and limit expectations about what is possible with certain characters. And I think the issue is that the definitions of LI and side girl are being blurred by the game itself, through the behaviour and interactions with that character.

 

[lemonfreak]

In truth though most discussions about this distinction are not simply a labelling exercise to clarify what people are referring to, are they? They're often being used to try and limit expectations about what is possible with certain characters. And I think the issue is that the definitions of LI and side girl are being blurred by the game itself, through the behaviour and interactions with that character.

They really aren't, there are 5 girls with RP who appear in EOC summaries and everyone else, the fact that Quinn is a major character and has more time 'on screen' than some of the LIs on some routes doesn't alter that fact.

Some people just like Quinn more than any of the other girls, fine, I get that but then go into denial about her role in the game because of it.

It is entirely possible that there will be an ending that sees the MC with Quinn and not one the LIs but, for me at least, that would have to be some form of bad ending. The way I would do that is to implement 3 possible endings for each of the 5 LIs, Love, Happy and Bad. Love is obvious, Happy sees them (Maya and Josy are together, Bella and James reconcile etc) and Bad would be the result of the MC being a negative influence on the LIs lives (Sage, as HOTs president, gets held partially responsible for Quinn's activities and is kicked out of B&R, Jill ends up dating Tybalt)

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

So I'm recreating my saves after I deleted them like a dunce. Doing my CHICK save right now, and I'm in episode 3. And you know, after how heavily Maya has been shit on (admittedly by me too) for chasing the tuition, its kind of funny that she actually comes to her senses in episode 3. Hears Quinn's "wide hips get tips" spiel, sees how degenerate and against her principles the Scavenger hunt is, and makes the level headed decision to give it all up. And just deal with the guillotine her dad has placed above her head.

And its motherfucking MC who decides to push her back in. You either be like "hey man, I'll fuck you for your list, don't give up" or "hey man, don't give up. go chase that shit".

MC goes from "NO! Don't trust Quinn! Talk to Sage!" to "o-oh, so Sage said no? Well, shit, guess you gotta go be a whore then". And still doens't warn her. Imagine how differently Maya would be viewed if MC didn't talk her out of standing for her principles and ideals.

 

[RustyCooter]

Bad ending for Jill would be she decides she will not have any form of sex til she's married. Good ending she may give the MC a blowjob. This would make Jill fans cry rivers. I love it.

 

[lemonfreak]

Bad ending for Jill would be she decides she will not have any form of sex til she's married. Good ending she may hold the MC's hand. This would make Jill fans cry rivers. I love it.

FTFY

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

FTFY

 

[Jill_Royce]

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After some talk with the big man himself. Quinn will be promoted to love interest definitely. And all you doubters are dumb dumbs doubting the majestic pussy of this white haired Queen among Queen. (Still below the goddess KRJ). And while the rest of you chase two cheaters, a psychotic adultress, and a slut, I will get the true happy end with Queen Quinn.

Is what Cas told me to say. Go facepalm bomb his posts.

Now I can sleep peacefully.Yeah let's facepalm Cas' posts.

 

[Jill_Royce]

Bad ending for Jill would be she decides she will not have any form of sex til she's married. Good ending she may give the MC a blowjob. This would make Jill fans cry rivers. I love it.

 

[felicemastronzo]

So I'm recreating my saves after I deleted them like a dunce. Doing my CHICK save right now, and I'm in episode 3. And you know, after how heavily Maya has been shit on (admittedly by me too) for chasing the tuition, its kind of funny that she actually comes to her senses in episode 3. Hears Quinn's "wide hips get tips" spiel, sees how degenerate and against her principles the Scavenger hunt is, and makes the level headed decision to give it all up. And just deal with the guillotine her dad has placed above her head.

And its motherfucking MC who decides to push her back in. You either be like "hey man, I'll fuck you for your list, don't give up" or "hey man, don't give up. go chase that shit".

MC goes from "NO! Don't trust Quinn! Talk to Sage!" to "o-oh, so Sage said no? Well, shit, guess you gotta go be a whore then". And still doens't warn her. Imagine how differently Maya would be viewed if MC didn't talk her out of standing for her principles and ideals.

the fact that Mc doesn't talk to anyone about the restaurant remains one of many examples of the lack of communication that holds up the BADIK narrative.

anyway the scene you're talking about refers to the case where Mc proposes to help her (which could actually be seen as a selfish attempt to have sex with her taking advantage of the list), but we know that even without wanting to help her nothing changes

but above all it all starts from the umpteenth confused declaration of Maya, who suddenly finds acceptable, possible to go on without free tuition (which is completely in contrast with what she tells us in the sixth chapter... where her life will be ruined forever!!!!!!!)

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

the fact that Mc doesn't talk to anyone about the restaurant remains one of many examples of the lack of communication that holds up the BADIK narrative.

anyway the scene you're talking about refers to the case where Mc proposes to help her (which could actually be seen as a selfish attempt to have sex with her taking advantage of the list), but we know that even without wanting to help her nothing changes

but above all it all starts from the umpteenth confused declaration of Maya, who suddenly finds acceptable, possible to go on without free tuition (which is completely in contrast with what she tells us in the sixth chapter... where her life will be ruined forever!!!!!!!)

I understand her reaction in ep6 as opposed to ep3. By ep6, Josy was living with her, her father had openly started surveillance much more (derek and the random visits), and Maya thought she finally succeeded.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

tell me how to deal with cheats, they are not displayed, but from the archive I did everything according to the instructions and the game bugs when you click on the cheats

Ask the guy making the cheats, my dude. There's a reason its in an entirely different thread.

 

[Jimayo]

Why haven't they seen or talked to each other in month's? They live in town's a half hour train ride away. Also your'e wrong they do talk on social media regularly in that time.

Well at first it was because maya was still living at home with her christian conservative father and not allowed to see josy. And now, if they get caught, maya is screwed, since her dad co-signed her tuition loans and therefore can cut them off which means she no longer gets to go to university. Because he's that shitty of a father that he would ruin his kids life for being a lesbian.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I understand her reaction in ep6 as opposed to ep3. By ep6, Josy was living with her, her father had openly started surveillance much more (derek and the random visits), and Maya thought she finally succeeded.

so we can say that it is Josy's presence that forces Maya to participate in the scavenger hunt, which Maya does with and without MC's help. correct?


For me, the idea that Maya thought she was pretending to be heterosexual and meanwhile hiding all her romantic relationships throughout college still seems terrible, but given her personality it's believable.

 

[Jimayo]

so we can say that it is Josy's presence that forces Maya to participate in the scavenger hunt, which Maya does with and without MC's help. correct?


For me, the idea that Maya thought she was pretending to be heterosexual and meanwhile hiding all her romantic relationships throughout college still seems terrible, but given her personality it's believable.

It's a weirdly common trope in this type of game. Gay people act like it's the 50's and if they don't hide their sexuality everyone is going to be against them. I mean homophobia still exists but it's not nearly as common as it used to be and homosexuality is frequently acceptable, specially in cities, but they all act like they'll completely ostracized by everyone, if anyone finds out. It's pretty ridiculous.