VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[godkingxerxes]

If Quinn was supposed to be the main villain for S1, then she was the worst villain in the history of worst villains. The problem is DPC established her as a villain, selling drugs and forcing girls to prostitution, but then decided to bank on the popular villain-to-hero trope, by trying to build a sad story for the said villain and possibly add a redemption arc in the future. It worked, but it also forced his hand to change her character and that combined with him making her incompetent by failing at everything, makes her even worse.

Personally, I feel no empathy towards Quinn, everything that happened to her she brought upon herself and only has herself to blame for it.

Quinn is not an antagonist. A rival towards Maya sure, but since Maya is not the protagonist, Quinn is not the antagonist.

 

[Hesteros]

Maya's slap is bound to raise a few questions that should by all reason make Sage investigate what's going on.

Don't forget Elena and Lily. They both care deeply for their sisters. Elena asked what was wrong right after the slap. Meanwhile Lily already knew that there was a ring going on. It wouldn't take her long to figure out about the free tuition and Burke.

 

[Casmyr]

Sucking dick in the toilet.

On her exam she's just going to write what stall she'll be in.

Tobacco rolling.

I can already see her writing a thesis on how to roll paper

 

[felicemastronzo]

If Quinn was supposed to be the main villain for S1, then she was the worst villain in the history of worst villains. The problem is DPC established her as a villain, selling drugs and forcing girls to prostitution, but then decided to bank on the popular villain-to-hero trope, by trying to build a sad story for the said villain and possibly add a redemption arc in the future. It worked, but it also forced his hand to change her character and that combined with him making her incompetent by failing at everything, makes her even worse.

Personally, I feel no empathy towards Quinn, everything that happened to her she brought upon herself and only has herself to blame for it.

If Quinn had really been an unscrupulous villain, and had really made Maya do something irreparable, the condemnation towards her would have been without appeal. instead so it's all suspended

Quinn makes the girls prostitute themselves, it's true, but in the end the girls do what they want and with whom they want.

I think that the fact that the syringes have disappeared compared to the first scenes, depends also on the fact that they don't want the issue of drugs to appear too serious, in the end if we talk about joints in college the sentence is not so inflexible, now we'll see what will happen to those unsold doses (where moreover reference is made to a specific drug)

all these contradictions make the character hard to pin down (and overall "wrong") but still interesting, Quinn could really do anything at any time, from the worst crime to the unexpected altruistic gesture

if I had to choose between spending time with Camilla (but the same goes for some LIs) and with Quinn, with the former we all know what to expect, with the latter it would still be a surprise

 

[Holy Bacchus]

It is possible the last name could have a plot point if there's a connection to the ski resort the preps go to. Albeit a minor one but could be part of the development of the details of his family history. But then again dpc could achieve the same thing if Lynette mentions the name of the hotel in the diary and there's a connection there.

There is no "ski resort the Preps go to". Dalli made that up out of thin air to try and justify a crazy theory.

Ok I just spent 5 hours updating my profile picture and creating my own signatures I'm ready to talk in the big boys thread now.

So what's up guys, what's your favorite outfit so far in game?
I don't really have saves to look at clothes but I think this one is at least up there for me
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Throwing it right back to Ep 1:

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just out of curiosity, what are the terms i need to use to figure out that DPC is currently play testing and is 2-3 weeks from release?

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absolutely agree with you
not even Neil's partial amnesia could justify MC not knowing his mother's real name,

surnames are simply not important to DPC, how many characters do we know of?

Except that it does. The MC has, a couple of times, seemingly expressed exasperation at his Dad's foggy and unreliable memory to the point where the MC seems disinterested in asking any further about his mother. Also, the MC knows how much the subject of his mother upsets his Dad so it's likely that he's never gone looking for information about his mother on his own because in digging up the past he may cause his Dad some distress.

But most of all, the MC may just not have any interest in knowing. He knows his Mom's name is Lynette, he likely knows what she looks like too, and he knows that she died in childbirth and his father is, for all intents and purposes, a good Dad who raised him in a loving and caring household. The MC even says in the opening monologue that his life with his Dad was a happy one, so he doesn't seem to have had much of a reason to want to know more about his Mom beyond what he already knows. He has his Dad and that does seem to be enough for him.

I honestly think it's entirely reasonable to assume that the MC doesn't know his Mom's family name because he's never been told and he's never cared to know.

If the MC is not on the path of Josy/Maya, Josy and Maya are applying to the Pink Rose because they need to make money?

They won't.

If there was something so important at stake, like finding out the truth about Burke (or about MC's family where I believe there is nothing to find out) I really don't think it would be tied to a specific branching part. it will be a common part for all players.

Agreed. Any significant revelations that aid the overall plot will not be consigned to branching choices or scenes.

Perhaps Stephen Burke is not Stephen Burke's real name either. What if he only took the name to get his doctor's degree?

Seriously, dalli?

Yes, I have thought about that. In the library scene in EP6, there is a woman who very suspiciously always moves away from the MC when he goes into the hallway. It could be that this woman has something to do with the real Stephen Burke and wants to expose the fraud. For example, she only needs to put a photo of the real Stephen Burke in the dissertation.

Dalli, stop thinking billboards are real characters in the game.

Quinn is not an antagonist. A rival towards Maya sure, but since Maya is not the protagonist, Quinn is not the antagonist.

From DPC's own Q&A:

Did you expect Quinn to have a decent size and loyal fanbase? From where did your inspiration for Quinn's character come?

I expected Quinn to be very polarizing. She is nowhere near a fan favorite based on polls, but she's unmatched in the game for those who enjoy a character like her. The inspiration was to create an antagonist that you'd either love to hate or hate to love. For me, Quinn is a character I love to write.

So, yes, she is an antagonist because that's what DPC says she is.

 

[Lostanddamned]

Quinn is not an antagonist. A rival towards Maya sure, but since Maya is not the protagonist, Quinn is not the antagonist.

Don't tell me you are like that one guy that hung around here claiming that everything Quinn did was honorable and with good intentions.

Quinn makes the girls prostitute themselves, it's true, but in the end the girls do what they want and with whom they want.

That adds up to her incompetence, with Camila fucking MC without asking her and Quinn throwing a fit about it.

all these contradictions make the character hard to pin down (and overall "wrong") but still interesting, Quinn could really do anything at any time, from the worst crime to the unexpected altruistic gesture

I'm not a Quinn hater and admittedly she does have positive traits, but they are mostly pushed aside by her actions. True, she betrayed the DIKs, but then when Tommy told her it's over she looked like she seriously regretted her actions. Is it just good acting skills or legit feelings, I do not know. But my gut tells me that she really regretted that.

if I had to choose between spending time with Camilla (but the same goes for some LIs) and with Quinn, with the former we all know what to expect, with the latter it would still be a surprise

If I had the choose between the two, I'd go with Camila. You can never go wrong with the Latina goddess.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Except that it does. The MC has, a couple of times, seemingly expressed exasperation at his Dad's foggy and unreliable memory to the point where the MC seems disinterested in asking any further about his mother. Also, the MC knows how much the subject of his mother upsets his Dad so it's likely that he's never gone looking for information about his mother on his own because in digging up the past he may cause his Dad some distress.

But most of all, the MC may just not have any interest in knowing. He knows his Mom's name is Lynette, he likely knows what she looks like too, and he knows that she died in childbirth and his father is, for all intents and purposes, a good Dad who raised him in a loving and caring household. The MC even says in the opening monologue that his life with his Dad was a happy one, so he doesn't seem to have had much of a reason to want to know more about his Mom beyond what he already knows. He has his Dad and that does seem to be enough for him.

I honestly think it's entirely reasonable to assume that the MC doesn't know his Mom's family name because he's never been told and he's never cared to know.

Come on...

if Neil seriously claimed not to remember Linette's surname he couldn't work on a building site and would have to be urgently admitted to some sanatorium

It's one thing to accept that details such as the exact dates are known, it's quite another not to know who the mother of his child is, the woman he had to mourn and bury.

then if the point is that MC does not care to know it, boh it seems to me also acceptable but I would not say reasonable... he may have been happy but the lack of his mother, if he did not feel it spontaneously, was made him feel it by the bullies of the school.

 

[Lostanddamned]

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Hahaha... Not Stephen, Tybalt, Quinn are the masterbrain of BaDIK.

The guy spying outside might be Nick or it might be Derek, beating his dick off while watching MC again.

 

[felicemastronzo]

The guy spying outside might be Nick or it might be Derek, beating his dick off while watching MC again.

I think it's someone who's leaving (or coming) secretly.

Why would they spy on MC?

 

[Lostanddamned]

I think it's someone who's leaving (or coming) secretly.

Why would they spy on MC?

Eh, it looks like a DIK jacket that the person is wearing. It might be Nick going out to meet Vinny. Or it might be someone trying to spy on MC for some reason. To me it looked like in the Bella blowjob scene with the angle from the outside that someone was already spying on them.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

I think it's someone who's leaving (or coming) secretly.

Why would they spy on MC?

Really, felice?

The wait really is melting brains.

 

[Lostanddamned]

Really, felice?

The wait really is melting brains.

Wait until the update drops, this place will be like a battlefield with all the theories dropping in.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Really, felice?

if it was just voyeurism it wouldn't matter, the DIKs know that MC is alone that night, who would they expect to catch him with?

then we see a shadow pass in front of the lights, don't go near the window and he sees worse from outside than we see him from inside


to me it seems much more significant that there is a DIk who for some reason goes out secretly (for evidently personal business) in the middle of the night, not that there is someone who at every opportunity goes to spy on Mc hoping to catch him with someone, when with Bella it is optional, and that night there is clearly no one and the DIKS know this

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

if it was just voyeurism it wouldn't matter, the DIKs know that MC is alone that night, who would they expect to catch him with?

then we see a shadow pass in front of the lights, don't go near the window and he sees worse from outside than we see him from inside

Stake-outs are more than catching the person in the act. Its also a shit ton of eating donuts and waiting for the act to happen. Over days if need be. You don't just show up at the right moment. You wait until, say, a hot sexy big tittied librarian with ties to the MC arrives, and then wait for some shit to potentially happen. And if it does, snappy snap with the camera.


BUT.

I just had a tangential thought. If MC receives pictures under the door. You think we'll get an option to go to Chad and be like, clearly someone is fucking with us, we gotta fuck this fucker up?

 

[Lostanddamned]

Stake-outs are more than catching the person in the act. Its also a shit ton of eating donuts and waiting for the act to happen. Over days if need be. You don't just show up at the right moment. You wait until, say, a hot sexy big tittied librarian with ties to the MC arrives, and then wait for some shit to potentially happen. And if it does, snappy snap with the camera.


BUT.

I just had a tangential thought. If MC receives pictures under the door. You think we'll get an option to go to Chad and be like, clearly someone is fucking with us, we gotta fuck this fucker up?

If Burke receives pictures of MC and Bella from that night she helped him, we'll know that he's somehow connected to the Chad picture thing and the Cathy cluck as well.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Stake-outs are more than catching the person in the act. Its also a shit ton of eating donuts and waiting for the act to happen. Over days if need be. You don't just show up at the right moment. You wait until, say, a hot sexy big tittied librarian with ties to the MC to arrive, and then wait for some shit to potentially happen. And if it does, snappy snap with the camera.


BUT.

I just had a tangential thought. If MC receives pictures under the door. You think we'll get an option to go to Chad and be like, clearly someone is fucking with us, we gotta fuck this fucker up?

Bella's visit is optional and this scene is fixed.

and you don't see anyone spying, just someone passing in front of the lights well away from the window, from the outside lit you don't see anything in a dark room behind window and curtains

facts build theories, not the other way around.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

Bella's visit is optional and this scene is fixed.

and you don't see anyone spying, just someone passing in front of the lights well away from the window, from the outside lit you don't see anything in a dark room behind window and curtains

facts build theories, not the other way around.

Bella was just an example. Fucking is not the only thing people get in trouble for. You'll never know what sort of skeletons your target is hiding in his closet unless you spy on him.

Bear in mind, I'm not swinging one way or the other. I just found it ludicrous that you would ask why would someone spy on MC in a game where someone is fucking with the DIKS, jocks, etc. Invading privacy, stealing and sharing pictures, etc.

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

Quinn is not an antagonist. A rival towards Maya sure, but since Maya is not the protagonist, Quinn is not the antagonist.

I'm onboard this train. Besides, if Quinn were really the antagonist she would be neither out for the HOTS nor fuckable. Everything she has done has been motivated by keeping the HOTS funded. Her methods may be scrutable but anyone who says they wouldn't let her fuck them silly is lying. She is that kind of girl and guys like that. We're not talking serious relationship or marriage material here. We're talking she probably takes it in the ass and the face. She is the antithesis of, say, Jill.

 

[dalli_x]

if it was just voyeurism it wouldn't matter, the DIKs know that MC is alone that night, who would they expect to catch him with?

then we see a shadow pass in front of the lights, don't go near the window and he sees worse from outside than we see him from inside


to me it seems much more significant that there is a DIk who for some reason goes out secretly (for evidently personal business) in the middle of the night, not that there is someone who at every opportunity goes to spy on Mc hoping to catch him with someone, when with Bella it is optional, and that night there is clearly no one and the DIKS know this

Someone is dimming the lights. Probably the one who walked past the windows before. After a magnification and a little more contrast and brightness you can see that.



My interpretation of the shadow is that someone is sneaking into the house. Since it is probably a DIK, he does not want to be seen leaving and/or entering the house.

Who has the room directly above MC Library?
Wait, above MC library is not a room!
Maybe someone gets into the house through the roof or balcony?

 

[Kellermann]

she probably takes it in the ass

Oh yes indeed, mate