VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

No, I fully understand the concept of most of these games, which is to take the story in any direction necessary to reach the end game for each character. It's called argument from conclusion and it's bad writing. I realize a lot of people would be perfectly OK with an ending where the MC is the pivot man in a circle jerk involving all of the female characters but I keep returning to the underlying fact that DPC has kept everything thus far within the realm of reality. To go in the direction of LTR with several of the characters he has to go entirely away from the reality he has spent a huge amount of time constructing. I'm not sure why that would make sense to him or to anyone else.

A relationship with an older woman, even a teacher, is not impossible or unrealistic, nor is a relationship with 2 girls at the same time or a relationship with someone who was in a lesbian relationship but either is, or realises they are, bi. You just lack the imagination to see it.

Granted, I cannot discern how exactly the relationships with Bella, Maya, and Josy will unfold or what the endgame will be, but I know for a fact that they will have endings, no matter what obstacles are in their way and that they will make perfect sense within the context of the game. It's a not a 1:1, 100% perfect depiction of the real world, so some things in the story might bend believability (like a drug and prostitution ring being run out of a sorority), but all LIs will have endings if you make the right choices and will work perfectly fine in the world DPC has created.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

Imagine reaching a point where one chapter releases per year

To be fair, if its because the amount of content is getting bigger and bigger. I'm fine with that. One episode worth 2-3 episodes is the same as 2-3 episodes, imo.

 

[godkingxerxes]

Imagine reaching a point where one chapter releases per year

Honestly wouldn't surprise me, it's not like Pinkcakes is in his 20s looking at this has a long term career. He's an old man, DIK is his swan song and he's aiming to go out on top. Rushing episodes to get more out isn't going to benefit his legacy.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Honestly wouldn't surprise me, it's not like Pinkcakes is in his 20s looking at this has a long term career. He's an old man, DIK is his swan song and he's aiming to go out on top. Rushing episodes to get more out isn't going to benefit his legacy.

You don't know his age. None of us do.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Oh fuck, I just had a horrible image of DPC making all paths conclude with one true ending...and it's with...*gulp* Zoey.
Deep Breath...I think I'm having a panic attack. imma pass out.
#StayAwayZoey
#Don'tComeBack
#FuckOff

A provocation: is the ending really that important?

Let's compare two theoretical matches:

1) one in which you insisted until the end on all the LIs you were interested in, a situation which then eventually blew up in your face

2) another one, in which good or bad at a certain point you chose according to what you had seen up to that moment, you avoided every temptation and arrived at the perfect ending, with MC and his LI hand in hand watching the sunset

are you sure that the second one is the best game? forget about playing it again 1,000 times, but as a single game experience doesn't the first one give more emotions?

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

A relationship with an older woman, even a teacher, is not impossible or unrealistic, nor is a relationship with 2 girls at the same time or a relationship with someone who was in a lesbian relationship but either is, or realises they are, bi. You just lack the imagination to see it.

Granted, I cannot discern how exactly the relationships with Bella, Maya, and Josy will unfold or what the endgame will be, but I know for a fact that they will have endings, no matter what obstacles are in their way and that they will make perfect sense within the context of the game. It's a not a 1:1, 100% perfect depiction of the real world, so some things in the story might bend believability (like a drug and prostitution ring being run out of a sorority), but all LIs will have endings if you make the right choices and will work perfectly fine in the world DPC has created.

The only way to accomplish that is to start closing doors now. There's no way to get to the end of this game and still have every female character as an option. A lot of them don't even like each other and they would lose interest in the MC if they knew he was even associating with them. Up til now nothing has been a fatal error and that is going to have to change, even if the story lines go places they can't go in real life. And some of them are tied together, so screwing up with Jill should mean Bella is out, screwing up with Maya should mean Josy is out, etc.

 

[Kellermann]

Every episode will be bigger than the last.

This is Pinkcakes retirement fund he's building up, he's not going to speed up while the dough is flowing.

With world wide inflation coming, having a pile of cash won't be enough. DPC needs a constant influx from now until death's sweet embrace in order for him to maintain his wifey's now expected lavish lifestyle.

A provocation: is the ending really that important?

Let's compare two theoretical matches:

1) one in which you insisted until the end on all the LIs you were interested in, a situation which then eventually blew up in your face

2) another one, in which good or bad at a certain point you chose according to what you had seen up to that moment, you avoided every temptation and arrived at the perfect ending, with MC and his LI hand in hand watching the sunset

are you sure that the second one is the best game? forget about playing it again 1,000 times, but as a single game experience doesn't the first one give more emotions?

I just don't like Zoey

 

[godkingxerxes]

With world wide inflation coming, having a pile of cash won't be enough. DPC needs a constant influx from now until death's sweet embrace in order for him to maintain his wifey's now expected lavish lifestyle.

He can switch to a 2 year development cycle, so the money comes in longer.

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

He can switch to a 2 year development cycle, so the money comes in longer.

He can switch to dog years ...

 

[drakken]

A provocation: is the ending really that important?

Let's compare two theoretical matches:

1) one in which you insisted until the end on all the LIs you were interested in, a situation which then eventually blew up in your face

2) another one, in which good or bad at a certain point you chose according to what you had seen up to that moment, you avoided every temptation and arrived at the perfect ending, with MC and his LI hand in hand watching the sunset

are you sure that the second one is the best game? forget about playing it again 1,000 times, but as a single game experience doesn't the first one give more emotions?

Dpc likes the drama of a shit show. Then a tie up at the end. So none of these girls working out, mc growing through the process to in the end meet again the first person he was the closest it. I could see it. (At least one of the endings)

 

[felicemastronzo]

To be fair, if its because the amount of content is getting bigger and bigger. I'm fine with that. One episode worth 2-3 episodes is the same as 2-3 episodes, imo.

In my opinion, however, the issue is different.

there are films that you are willing to wait years for, but once you get there it's done, then you may or may not like it.

here we're talking about spreading out the gaming experience over 7-14 years. are you willing to wait 14 years to see how the game ends? are you ready to make that commitment to a game? how many computers will you change in 14 years? how many houses? how many jobs?

I'm not, in the same way that I wouldn't start watching lightly a TV series whose 15 seasons have been announced.

for me the psychological threshold is 6 months, if i can expect at least 2 chapters a year, i think i can make it, beyond that i would most likely quit

 

[InfiniteIgnorance]

Dpc likes the drama of a shit show. Then a tie up at the end. So none of these girls working out, mc growing through the process to in the end meet again the first person he was the closest it. I could see it. (At least one of the endings)

That would be a lot closer to reality than a lot of the shit that's being thrown around.

 

[AchedCroissant]

To be fair, if its because the amount of content is getting bigger and bigger. I'm fine with that. One episode worth 2-3 episodes is the same as 2-3 episodes, imo.

So you will collect your pension and then you will come to the forum to check if the new chapter has already come out in 10 years

 

[felicemastronzo]

Dpc likes the drama of a shit show. Then a tie up at the end. So none of these girls working out, mc growing through the process to in the end meet again the first person he was the closest it. I could see it. (At least one of the endings)

this is what happens in AL, where if everything goes wrong and you make certain choices you go back to the ex who betrayed you.
and I'll tell you it's also an ending I didn't mind.

But it's 10 renders at the end of the game, it doesn't change the judgement on the game experience.
And is a sunset holding hands or a good fight with flying plates more exciting?

 

[Casmyr]

So you will collect your pension and then you will come to the forum to check if the new chapter has already come out in 10 years

He will. And then he'll buy those little blue pills and dust off the old sock to feel young again

 

[phill_leotardo]

He can switch to a 2 year development cycle, so the money comes in longer.

Lol, as if he couldn't make a new game. As if he couldn't make a better game. That every dev milks mindset is just to much.

 

[AchedCroissant]

He will. And then he'll buy those little blue pills and dust off the old sock to feel young again

We'll see on the news, old man dies of a heart attack while playing a porn game

F for fappy

 

[drakken]

this is what happens in AL, where if everything goes wrong and you make certain choices you go back to the ex who betrayed you.
and I'll tell you it's also an ending I didn't mind.

But it's 10 renders at the end of the game, it doesn't change the judgement on the game experience.
And is a sunset holding hands or a good fight with flying plates more exciting?

That's pretty much what gave me that idea. And as far as sunset/flying plates? Depends on my mood. both have their "excitement" factor.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

In my opinion, however, the issue is different.

there are films that you are willing to wait years for, but once you get there it's done, then you may or may not like it.

here we're talking about spreading out the gaming experience over 7-14 years. are you willing to wait 14 years to see how the game ends? are you ready to make that commitment to a game? how many computers will you change in 14 years? how many houses? how many jobs?

I'm not, in the same way that I wouldn't start watching lightly a TV series whose 15 seasons have been announced.

for me the psychological threshold is 6 months, if i can expect at least 2 chapters a year, i think i can make it, beyond that i would most likely quit

I dunno. It honestly doesn't bother me.

I mean, its no different than a novel series to me. For example, I got into Dresden Files fully knowing it would take 20+ years to finish. Here we are 21 years later, and we're still a bunch of books away from the end. Stormlight Archive started in 2010, and we're a decade later 4/10 books through. I started reading The Wheel of Time when I was seven, and the series finished when I was 17.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I'm not putting too much hopes when it comes to any best possible ending that this game can offers for. Heartbroken sucks man !

As long as you make the right decisions, you'll get the ending with the one(s) you want.