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Kellermann

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Regarding Maya (and Josy), I've always gotten the impression from DPC's writing that he is ultimately going for a love triangle, with all of the drama that entails. And by love triangle, I don't just mean threesome sex. I think they will go through a rough patch with a fair bit of jealousy between the girls in the upcoming episodes, which may result in separate Maya and Josy paths. Jill's involvement (be it friendship or love) with both Josy and MC will complicate things even more. If you have appropriately navigated the story pitfalls via your choices, then you will get your happy throuple ending, but I think it can just as easily go poorly if you haven't done everything just right.
 

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I present the latest fan art in DIK fan thread. I challenge the Jill ride or dies to see
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Wow!
There used to be a guy on this thread with Hunter as his avatar; I'm he'd get a kick out of this. :oops:o_O
And you just know someone is going to photoshop Tybalt's face on this
 

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You need a scene in wich she runs to an airport and ask him to stay with her?

Jokes aside, the relationship is developing. Love is not something you built in a day or two. But we know how this is going to end, couse is a porn game and is meant to please our ego. The MC is a proyection of ourselfs. We are amazing couse we give DPC money ("we"): Ergo DPC is going to make Sage to absurdly fall in love with our huge cock.
And to the story: Sage sayd that she is used to hide her emotions, besides she is a 21ys old president of a university slut club. Of course she is not going to show huge emotions towards a guy she met recently. What she is going to do is what most of the girls (and boys) likeher does. Deny their feelings and pretend is just sex until she is totally in. Some peoplelive their entire lifes doing that. So, is in the small details when you see that is not just sex and something else is developing.
I need to know why someone who doesn't care about Chad anymore and who cares about the MC is beating the shit out of Chad in Episode 6 ... she has no feelings for him but she's kicking his ass, because?
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Obviously, she's not over him.
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QED
 

drakken

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It's just weird. For one thing, girls don't titfuck guys they don't even like. That's not part of being fuckbuddies. Girls don't get shit out of that. She only did that for revenge on Chad. Then, after they have the buttsekz she still says they're just fuckbuddies and makes him sleep somewhere else besides her bed. And she says she's taken when the MC says he has more interest in her than in Quinn. She's bipolar or something.
It is weird, for normal people. Its fairly common for damaged.
 

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I need to know why someone who doesn't care about Chad anymore and who cares about the MC is beating the shit out of Chad in Episode 6 ... she has no feelings for him but she's kicking his ass, because?
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Obviously, she's not over him.
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You know the game goes on after that, right? And even after that we don't have a single sex scene with Sage.
If the idea is that textually Sage says that she started to have feelings for the MC, then, you're right, that doesn't appear in the game, happy?
 

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Has anyone of you tried to make a loser route? like you have no relationship, you fought with everyone and you also have poor grades in your homework .. i would like to know how the plot goes on like this ..
Yeah, I did this a while ago actually. It is actually pretty hilarious how far you can go out of your way, for the most part, to not interact with the girls.
 

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I thought I explained this particular aspect a couple of times, but obviously I failed. So one last attempt. I think we would both agree that Maya's whole tragic backstory and her motivation to resorting to the HOT process is because her father's reaction to finding out she's gay. We even got the flashback scene. So the game makes Maya's sexuality and the price she paid for it a core part of the character. Not only that, the game uses that as the cliffhanger for Episode 6.

Now, when writing it like that, I wouldn't think you needed some great sexual scene with her checking out women or hot lesbian scenes. That is sufficient. However, the only character you see Maya show any kind of sexual/romantic attraction to in the university is the male MC. There is an exception here in that if you go in to that relationship with the M&J, you could get that one scene, but even that references the MC. Hell, I could give examples of both women prioritizing the MC even if he turns them down instead of each other. This is why the fact that there's no actual show of her being attracted to women is an issue because that is the core of her story and there are multiple examples of how turned on she is about having sexual interactions with a guy.
That's because, as I said, at the core of this game's story is the MC, and like all MC's in adult games, they are the central focus of the LIs even when those LIs are already in a relationship. But in terms of the reality of the story that exists in this game, Maya has found herself inexplicably attracted to the MC, most likely due to the emotional state she's in over her relationship with Josy, and it's caused her to feel a connection to the MC that confuses her. She's not sure what this means because she has been convinced for some time that she is completely lesbian, yet there's something she really likes about the MC. This is why, on the M&J path, this has become a full-blown attraction and romantic interest, whilst on the non-M&J path she knows she likes him but isn't sure in exactly what capacity.

Just because she has an attraction to the MC does not negate the predicament with her Dad and her relationship with Josy because she is still in that relationship with Josy on both paths. Josy is still the person she loves the most and so she's not going to give that relationship up for something that might just be a passing fling or just the result of confused feelings because of the strain this situation has put her under. Plus, on the M&J path, if she were to have her way, she'd be in a relationship with both of them and this still does not solve the Dad problem. So the core of her story remains, regardless of what path you choose, which is that she has an attraction to girls. Her having any sort of feelings for the MC doesn't change that or lessen the drama of her story because her interest in girls is at the root of that drama.

By the way, on that longer response you gave, I didn't bother pointing this out then, you gave a real life example which is kind of weird as this is game is not real life. As are not TV shows or movies, even if they were documentaries. As such, games and all those are collections of narratives moments that are supposed to build towards a consistent story based on the scenes that are shown. Actually I always thought the golden rule was 'Show, don't tell', but apparently with Maya it's 'Why would you need to show when you can just tell?'. Sorry about that, that passive-aggressive moment felt too good to pass on.
Fiction draws from real life and that's why people can sometimes see it reflected in what they view/play/read. Maya not openly expressing interest in girls is, for me, very reflective of someone I knew in real life and hence why I drew the comparison between them as a means of explaining Maya a bit more. Having these real life comparisons is what can enhance a story or a character because it makes them more relatable and that's why I'd say that any such examples can be quite relevant when discussing this game or any other piece of fiction.

You think it's possible Maya and even Josy end up in Mona's situation if the MC doesn't warn Maya about being weary of Quinn's intentions? Or they just quit the HOTS no matter what?
Both Maya and Josy have already found out that Quinn is full of shit and Maya has pretty much quit the HOTs already, so neither will be getting involved with that. Josy, however, may still stay with the HOTs, but her Dad is paying her tuition so she has no reason to join Quinn's little operation.

I need to know why someone who doesn't care about Chad anymore and who cares about the MC is beating the shit out of Chad in Episode 6 ... she has no feelings for him but she's kicking his ass, because?
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Obviously, she's not over him.
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Because she's hurt. Feeling something for the MC doesn't mean she can't still be devastated at Chad breaking up with her, particularly because it not only comes out of the blue and with no explanation, but she seems to have given a lot of herself to that relationship and she doesn't know what went wrong. She feels that she needs to know that, and he doesn't give a reason, that's why she's pissed and angry with him.

In the words of C3PO, "You obviously have a great deal to learn about human behaviour."

P.S. Press the 's' key and you'll get better sceeenshots.
 

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That's because, as I said, at the core of this game's story is the MC, and like all MC's in adult games, they are the central focus of the LIs even when those LIs are already in a relationship. But in terms of the reality of the story that exists in this game, Maya has found herself inexplicably attracted to the MC, most likely due to the emotional state she's in over her relationship with Josy, and it's caused her to feel a connection to the MC that confuses her. She's not sure what this means because she has been convinced for some time that she is completely lesbian, yet there's something she really likes about the MC. This is why, on the M&J path, this has become a full-blown attraction and romantic interest, whilst on the non-M&J path she knows she likes him but isn't sure in exactly what capacity.

Just because she has an attraction to the MC does not negate the predicament with her Dad and her relationship with Josy because she is still in that relationship with Josy on both paths. Josy is still the person she loves the most and so she's not going to give that relationship up for something that might just be a passing fling or just the result of confused feelings because of the strain this situation has put her under. Plus, on the M&J path, if she were to have her way, she'd be in a relationship with both of them and this still does not solve the Dad problem. So the core of her story remains, regardless of what path you choose, which is that she has an attraction to girls. Her having any sort of feelings for the MC doesn't change that or lessen the drama of her story because her interest in girls is at the root of that drama.



Fiction draws from real life and that's why people can sometimes see it reflected in what they view/play/read. Maya not openly expressing interest in girls is, for me, very reflective of someone I knew in real life and hence why I drew the comparison between them as a means of explaining Maya a bit more. Having these real life comparisons is what can enhance a story or a character because it makes them more relatable and that's why I'd say that any such examples can be quite relevant when discussing this game or any other piece of fiction.



Both Maya and Josy have already found out that Quinn is full of shit and Maya has pretty much quit the HOTs already, so neither will be getting involved with that. Josy, however, may still stay with the HOTs, but her Dad is paying her tuition so she has no reason to join Quinn's little operation.



Because she's hurt. Feeling something for the MC doesn't mean she can't still be devastated at Chad breaking up with her, particularly because it not only comes out of the blue and with no explanation, but she seems to have given a lot of herself to that relationship and she doesn't know what went wrong. She feels that she needs to know that, and he doesn't give a reason, that's why she's pissed and angry with him.

In the words of C3PO, "You obviously have a great deal to learn about human behaviour."

P.S. Press the 's' key and you'll get better sceeenshots.
Exactly, and its the most common thing, when someone just leaves is the other wants to know why.
 

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I need to know why someone who doesn't care about Chad anymore and who cares about the MC is beating the shit out of Chad in Episode 6 ... she has no feelings for him but she's kicking his ass, because?
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Obviously, she's not over him.
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Noone said she doesn't care about Chad. Feelings doesn't work that way, you can have strong feelings for two different people at the same time. And yet i am not sure Sage feelings for Chad are genuine. It seems more like a classic narcisistic trap. Sage seems like that specially hot girl wich everyone want, so when she is faced with a guy who doesnt want her she gets interested in that guy, but if that guy start to like her, she doesnt like him anymore. And that is because is not the guy by itself what she wants, but rather what she wants is that guy desire or love .
But this is just a theory. Let's get less wild about this. She just came of a two-three years relationship with the guy. At that point either you are tired or you have feelings for him. And she is not tired. But Chad is tired and is breaking up with her. Even if you are not a narcisist your ego is going to be hurt for that and is a normal reaction to react passionately. But that's not neceserely love. It's a struggle for who is incontrol in the relationship.
Again all of this could be or could be not, and yet none of thoose scenarios meant she doesnt have feelings for the MC, specially since thoose feelings are just starting to develop. After all as the MC said: "That girl means problems"
 
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It's just weird. For one thing, girls don't titfuck guys they don't even like. That's not part of being fuckbuddies. Girls don't get shit out of that. She only did that for revenge on Chad. Then, after they have the buttsekz she still says they're just fuckbuddies and makes him sleep somewhere else besides her bed. And she says she's taken when the MC says he has more interest in her than in Quinn. She's bipolar or something.
The context of the tit fuck was that Sage was feeling undesirable but when she picked up on the MC ogling her tits, she decided to use that to make herself feel desired. It worked.

I need to know why someone who doesn't care about Chad anymore and who cares about the MC is beating the shit out of Chad in Episode 6 ... she has no feelings for him but she's kicking his ass, because?
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Obviously, she's not over him.
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QED
You know the game goes on after that, right? And even after that we don't have a single sex scene with Sage.
If the idea is that textually Sage says that she started to have feelings for the MC, then, you're right, that doesn't appear in the game, happy?
Chad deeply wounded Sage, any breakup where one party feels cheated on is going to have all sorts of emotions. No one goes, "Oh he's cheating, I'll just end the relationship and find a more suitable guy." The emotional roller-coaster in this event is probably one of the most difficult to explain.

So does Sage still have feelings for Chad? Of course. Love and hate both simultaneously as well as a lot of other more complicated feelings.

Does Sage have feelings for the MC that go beyond fuckbuddy? I'm pretty sure that's true too. When they are discussing the various couples in between the HOTs ad the DIKs

mc: "Hm... That's not reason enough to stop partying together if you ask me."​
mc: "What about the rest of the gang? Elena and John Boy. Tommy and Heather..."​
mc: "You and me?"​
Sage: "..."​

She doesn't refute him like she did earlier when he suggested he wanted more, plus:

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She's slowly falling for him for sure. I mean what girl wouldn't? He's there when she needs him, they enjoy each other's humour, they have great sex. The problem is she's going through a breakup, it's totally the wrong time to be romancing a girl...
 

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Still no release date or beta-testing announcement?
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Beta testing and proofreading have started!
Stay tuned for a release date. I will update you as soon as I know more.



Preliminary changelog
Please note, the changelog might change slightly before release as a result of beta testing.

Added Episode 7 that includes

  • 3723 renders
  • 836 GUI elements
  • 34 2D-art pieces
  • 250 animations
  • 22 songs
  • 20 sound effects


  • Lowered the volume of the intro splash screen and made its sound level controlled by the SFX channel.
  • Set the powersave option to disabled by default to favor performance over energy settings.
  • Updated the money system backend.
  • Replaced the animations for the main girl episode report and updated the design.
  • Added a presplash loading image.
  • Added a skip 5 pages at the time button for the Save/Load screen.
  • Disabled right-clicking the Skip button to skip to the next choice.
  • The middle-mouse button now brings up the in-game phone and can be used to close any children menu of the phone.
  • The quick menu will be hidden when using the phone and restored when closing the phone.
  • Fixed an issue with autosaving, causing a lag spike during choices during animations.
  • To reduce lag, autosaving is now less frequent. There's an option in the Preferences menu to remove Autosaving and thus remove lag spikes.
  • Fixed a rare bug with Shuffle.
  • Fixed a bug where you could repeatedly talk to Nick during the free-roam event at the DIKs in episode 6.
  • Fixed a bug in episode 6 where Jill's piano scene wouldn't play if you chose to sit with Sage & Quinn for lunch and wasn't Sage's fuck buddy.
  • Fixed a bug in episode 3 where Quinn's text message would cause an error if you entered and exited Jill's chat first.
  • Fixed a bug with the episode report for Jill in episode 6.
  • Fixed an issue where playing a song for the bushes in Dungeons and Gremlins didn't show Moria appearing.
  • Fixed an issue with a special render causing Tommy to disappear momentarily in the first free-roam event of episode 6.
  • Fixed an issue with the oversized text for a subset of work tasks in the mansion mini-game.
  • Corrected typos in episodes 1-6
 
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