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shazba

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Yea, it's a work of fiction so DPC can make it as unrealistic as he wants but it's the way he goes between realism and fiction arbitrarily that makes it easy to poke holes in the story. If he stayed entirely on one side or the other it would be a lot easier to dismiss plot holes as, "Well, I guess that's just the way things are in Cumshotisstan, or wherever it is they reside.
It's definitely a huge spectrum of serious and slapstick. DPC wants you to take the drama seriously to make the game emotional but also enjoy the absurd to have a good laugh.

I'd put it in the same category as a Jackie Chan movie. Over the top melodrama filled with crazy awesome antics. You just need to differentiate between what you're supposed to take seriously and what you're supposed to let slide.

It's just a bit of entertainment after all, and given the competition, this game is already waaay above the benchmark. :cool:
 

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But the big question is, why was there 1 girl sleeping with Tommy if heather didn't know about Tommy and Tania, but there's two people sleeping with Tommy if she does know about Tommy and Tania?
easy explanation: if Heather knows about the betrayal, she makes a scene and he 'exaggerates' in revenge.

+2 for Tommy
 
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But they do exist. Maya just isn't going to do what she would have to do to get one. Or who she would have to do to get one. So, even if I give you that Quinn started the rumor, it's not a lie.
Maya is the most helpless character I've ever come across in fiction. That she would base all of her hope's on an unlikely rumor, and then throw a hissy fit when she didn't get what she wanted, just underscores that impression. I'm just sad that DPC now has Sage simping for her, along with Josy and the MC.
 

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So, yes, this is a major hole in writing because it asks us to not only suspend reality but also the world DPC created.
Even if if that is the reality, it still doesnt change the fact that Maya says she is tricked into co-signing and she believes that she is exactly in that situation.... MC even asks if there's nothing that can be done, she says she has no money for a lawyer and she allready told MC she has no knowledge of such things.... Maybe it's a totul bluff of her dad... it is what motivates her to seek that free tuition from HOT.... Sorry, but no plothole here imho...
 

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It's definitely a huge spectrum of serious and slapstick. DPC wants you to take the drama seriously to make the game emotional but also enjoy the absurd to have a good laugh.

I'd put it in the same category as a Jackie Chan movie. Over the top melodrama filled with crazy awesome antics. You just need to differentiate between what you're supposed to take seriously and what you're supposed to let slide.

It's just a bit of entertainment after all, and given the competition, this game is already waaay above the benchmark. :cool:
but it is very difficult to be 'moved' by dramas that you do not perceive at all.

"Oh my God, there's Maya's father in her room!!! Now he's gonna catch them!! Who knows what's gonna happen!!" :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Maya:" I knew my father had the key, but I would have never thought that a control freak could make a surprise visit during a week in which Josy slept here every night. it seemed like a calculated risk".:geek::(:cry::cry::cry::cry:

ok....o_O:confused:
 
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Maya is the most helpless character I've ever come across in fiction. That she would base all of her hope's on an unlikely rumor, and then throw a hissy fit when she didn't get what she wanted, just underscores that impression. I'm just sad that DPC now has Sage simping for her, along with Josy and the MC.
I guess then maybe you are very new to this kind of drama....Or you only play a few selective games because maya's drama concept is not original. Like so many games, series have that kind of drama :rolleyes: and that too in fiction I might add.
PS: I myself am not fond of those kind of drama's BUT she is not at all "the most helpless character I've ever come across in fiction."
 
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It's definitely a huge spectrum of serious and slapstick. DPC wants you to take the drama seriously to make the game emotional but also enjoy the absurd to have a good laugh.

I'd put it in the same category as a Jackie Chan movie. Over the top melodrama filled with crazy awesome antics. You just need to differentiate between what you're supposed to take seriously and what you're supposed to let slide.

It's just a bit of entertainment after all, and given the competition, this game is already waaay above the benchmark. :cool:
Still the best VN in production and second place isn't even close ... but it's not flawless. It's just a matter of what the individual game player is or is not willing to overlook or give a pass. I just kind of chuckle at how everyone has that one character they'll defend to the death. I haven't even discussed my favorite character in depth. Too busy trying to prove Quinn isn't devil spawn.
 
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Maya is the most helpless character I've ever come across in fiction. That she would base all of her hope's on an unlikely rumor, and then throw a hissy fit when she didn't get what she wanted, just underscores that impression. I'm just sad that DPC now has Sage simping for her, along with Josy and the MC.
Yep, she's the damsel in distress in this play.
 

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I guess then maybe you are very new to this kind of drama....Or you only play a few selective games because maya's drama concept is not original. Like so many games, series have that kind of drama :rolleyes: and that too in fiction I might add.
It's a shame that you haven't had more exposure to good fiction. And don't blame it on the medium either, there are lot's of AVN's with more believable characters and plot's, and more coming all the time.
 

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Maya is the most helpless character I've ever come across in fiction. That she would base all of her hope's on an unlikely rumor, and then throw a hissy fit when she didn't get what she wanted, just underscores that impression. I'm just sad that DPC now has Sage simping for her, along with Josy and the MC.
Considering her disdain for the HOTs to start with (I don't know if she cares for any of them any more than she did initially other than perhaps Ashley who wasn't a HOT at the time anyway), it is sad that Sage is now going out of her way to try and help such a two-faced person to come back into the HOT's fold.

I don't hate Maya, she's pretty much as flawed as the next person, but unfortunately for her, her one major problem (her dad controlling her finances) has become her main defining characteristic (other than her liking movies).

But who knows, get her out from under her father's thumb and she might have a chance to be a whole different person. :unsure:

Too busy trying to prove Quinn isn't devil spawn.
But she's not the Devil's spawn, she's the Devil's Queen. :p
 

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For those who found Becky too up herself and wanted to take her down a notch (totally misogynistic I know): Absinthe and Cola.
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For those who found Becky too up herself and wanted to take her down a notch (totally misogynistic I know): Absinthe and Cola.
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I bet Josy would love this. :D
 

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For those who found Becky too up herself and wanted to take her down a notch (totally misogynistic I know): Absinthe and Cola.
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It's a shame that the good dialogue is only available to Dik MC.
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Also don't worry about it being misogynistic. There's at least one feminist (Maya) who would like MC for that as she hated Becky.
 

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For those who found Becky too up herself and wanted to take her down a notch (totally misogynistic I know): Absinthe and Cola.
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Wise decision if you are on the M&J route :ROFLMAO:

It's like fucking Lily and believing you will have a threesome with her and Quinn a stupid decision
 

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I finally figured out what happened on the night in question. This is awesome and terrible at the same time.

MC fucked Zoey, we know that. Zoey is pregnant. But by whom? There are 3 cantidates. Zoey's new boyfriend is Vinny and he wants to know if he is the father. It could be MC, Vinny and Tommy. Mistaken identity, alcohol, blackmail, the drugs stand for submissive and rape.

The MC hasn't had contact with Zoey in over 6 months. Only there is one problem, Zoey has been fucking with the MC, has been raped by Tommy either in her sleep or while drugged, and he is blackmailing Heather Burke with the knowledge that Stephen cheated on Jade with Cathy. But now Zoey can only remember the cock from the MC. That's why Quinn is interested in the MC. At the cumpetition Quinn wanted the MC to make a dick comparison. The problem is, it was too short and she didn't find out. That's why Quinn continues to be interested in the MC, but falls in love with him over time when the player favors Quinn. But she needs a comparison, so she takes Maya up on the HOT's and gives her the hard list at the end of which is a threesome and hopes the threesome with her takes place. Josy's arrival at B&R, however, upsets Quinn's plans because she knows that a relationship is developing between Josy and the MC. That's why Quinn screwed Josy on the phone before and wanted to prevent it. Well, it always goes back and forth, you know that.

The EP7 Hot's party the MC should not bring alcohol to Becky and then have sex with her. He could be held as a perpetrator otherwise. Through Heather Josy learns that Tommy could be the bad guy. But this has to be checked. If the MC gets into a relationship with Josy at the party and didn't fuck Quinn or another girl, everything will be fine. But at night with Josy the MC can't keep his cock under control when he drank too much and Josy gets pregnant. If he is sober then not. If you guys hid the cumpetition and won. If you now let Josy kick Tommy in the balls, the following ramifications occur. Unfortunately I only know the Josy/Maya path. But if the Jill fans do everything right and the path could be a bit painful, the solution to the Tybalt problem starts at the end of EP7. If you are following Sage, you need to make it clear in EP7 because Josy and Maya will not come between Sage and the MC.

But now for the part about what happens that night. There are five women who break into the DIK Mansion that night. (Josy, Maya, Jill, Quinn and Zoey).
And now the drama opens. The MC is raped. He will probably be sedated with the Blue Liquid Time, which is not addictive as we know. Jill compares dick, for cheating (blackmail) or if the MC goes after Jill for something worse (mistaken identity). If Maya fucked with the MC and doesn't know about the cumpetition, Jill is replaced by Maya if the MC is on the Maya path. If she knows about the cumpetition, Maya will have the same fate as Jill (confusion). If the MC and Josy have a relationship, she will jump on the MC with momentum. She will take the birth control pill or not (doesn't matter), but she got it from Quinn and gets pregnant. (MC loses cumpetition in Josy) But that also means something bad happened to Josy. (There will be a threesome of Josy/Maya and the MC. Squirt off in Maya).

But Quinn and Zoey don't fare any better. Tommy doesn't need to be anesthetized. Quinn has brought coke. Zoey can't do anything no coke. Quinn won't do coke. But Tommy who always wanted Quinn offers her a drink. Okay, you know how this ends. Quinn took the sugar pills too.

But when the MC hits Tommy, all the blame is put on Vinny.

But if Heather doesn't know that Tommy is cheating on her... The MC will probably get raped by Quinn. For the group, everything has to be the same. If the MC doesn't warn Maya about Quinn, Maya will be raped by Quinn.

I told you it would darken.
 
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