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mindern

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MC who is a teenager, makes the train trip twice in the very short span of the game. Josy who has a job and savings and is a teenager could surely make the trip.

This is exactly what I'm talking about, these pathetic quibbles to quash any criticism of the game are so damn cringy.

As I've said before like the game as much as you want. But if you had any candor you would have to candidly admit that there are substantial flaws in the plot of this game.
You’re acting like they’re objective plot holes when they’re not.

Your argument works both ways, people should stop defending it without any thought and you need to stop picking at plot points and acting like they’re objectively bad.

Maybe the “distance” wasn’t necessarily one of actual physical separation but Maya/Josy doing exactly what they’re doing this episode again. They’re metres from one another at the moment and not speaking or seeing each other. They went “long distance” and shit broke down because Maya’s response to stress is to turtle up in the dark and not put any effort into the relationship and Josy just leaves her to it.

It’s established in the plot that’s how they react. Just because it isn’t explicitly stated it doesn’t make it a “pathetic quibble” designed to “quash” any grandiloquent criticism of the game.

Story has flaws. Not even close to perfect (if that even exists in literature). But you’re just the other side of the same coin as the people you’re calling cringey.
 

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And you were obviously smart enough to kick Cathy to the curb? :giggle:
Yessir. Can't help it. Clown lips has never appealed to me. I find the character unappealing in pretty much every regard, though props to DPC for giving her full agency. It's nice to see a character putting themselves out there to get what they want, I just don't want it from that character.
 

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You’re acting like they’re objective plot holes when they’re not.

Your argument works both ways, people should stop defending it without any thought and you need to stop picking at plot points and acting like they’re objectively bad.

Maybe the “distance” wasn’t necessarily one of actual physical separation but Maya/Josy doing exactly what they’re doing this episode again. They’re metres from one another at the moment and not speaking or seeing each other. They went “long distance” and shit broke down because Maya’s response to stress is to turtle up in the dark and not put any effort into the relationship and Josy just leaves her to it.

It’s established in the plot that’s how they react. Just because it isn’t explicitly stated it doesn’t make it a “pathetic quibble” designed to “quash” any grandiloquent criticism of the game.

Story has flaws. Not even close to perfect (if that even exists in literature). But you’re just the other side of the same coin as the people you’re calling cringey.
Story has many flaws. It makes it looks silly. For example, Jill promises not to meet Mc forever because of the threaten of Tybalt. What a stupid story! Maybe the writer has forgeten Jill is more powerful and rich than Tybalt. And Jill even make a date with him. It is ntr plot.
 

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Here's a little recap of MC's life over the couple of weeks of starting college through to the end of Hell Week. I've gone all geekazoid over this, color coding the Maya interactions (green), the Josy interactions (red) and sex-with-everyone-else (purple) to visually show the weighting of what MC's been up to. I've included most M&J interactions while just including all the other sexual interactions. Its a bit of a read but it's enlightening:

  • He's working at a store and has a crush on Josy
  • He finally gets the courage to talk to her and things take off
  • Goes on a date with Josy, he kisses her, she reciprocates and she feels guilty and tells him she's in another relationship
  • When he leaves she indicates she still likes him, he still likes her too
  • First day at college he meets Maya, she's friendly and offers him a hand after he falls
  • She finds out he's missed orientation and she offers to show him around
  • She opens up a bit and says she wants to join the HOTs to get free tuition and he jokes about it with her
  • He meets Maya in class again and after class he asks if she wants to come along with him to the Tri-Betas, she tells him she has a boyfriend
  • Later that evening he goes to call Josy but she calls first, it's clear they both have crushes on each other but when they start talking about relationships she realizes she's being silly but before she hangs up the MC organizes to meet her on the weekend. She's not sure what she's doing but is looking forward to seeing him.
  • Next day in class Maya tries to get mc to join up to gender studies and the two of them go out to lunch. When the conversation comes round to her parents the mc see that it gets her a little serious. Then they talk about honesty and stuff and MC covers the tab.
  • Then all the dorm room drama unfolds. During this time he gets a double handjob from Quinn and Camila and a blow job from Camila
  • Later he meets up with Derek and Maya and Maya is convinced by Derek to let mc stay with her for the night.
  • They chat a bit and then MC finds out she's got some issues with people giving up on her.
  • Then they get changed for bed, she's a bit bashful and then the mc strips right in front of her, shocking her.
  • He wakes up with a boner, she teases him and then she expects he won't be returning to the room for another night as per the original deal (one night).
  • Later that day Maya finds out MC hasn't left yet, she's surprised when he suggests staying longer but she agrees. When he suggests he stay permanently, she declines the idea but she gives her number to him (in case he gets locked out).
  • That night she invites him to watch a movie with her and she is literally all over him - this is definitely her leading him on (intentionally or not). He reciprocates a bit, nothing too aggressive, and she tells him the boyfriend deal was just to stop guys from being attracted to her and says it's probably best if the MC isn't attracted to her too. He says he is. Then they chat about the movie and go to (separate) beds.
  • They meet up next in gender class and nothing happens.
  • She tells him she'll be back late so don't wait up
  • MC gets a blow job from Riona and has anal sex with Camila
  • MC waits up for Maya, even tries to call her, then eventually goes to sleep
  • Then we get the grinding scene which confuses mc, he thinks it's means something but we now know it’s a HOTs prank
  • Then we have the CUMpetition where mc fucks Quinn, she thinks she's shocking him but he teases her and she likes it, then Derek loses...
  • During the evening mc flirts with Mel and Sarah and lets them know he fucked Quinn
  • Later Maya comes to the MC sheepishly, feeling bad for the grinding, mc offers to help her out, he likes her and he wants to talk about whether what took place earlier meant anything to her
  • Later back at the dorm the MC talks to Maya about the grinding, she's hesitant to talk about it and feels bad about what she did and angry that she was the only one that was asked to do it that way.
  • The MC vaguely warns her about Quinn’s prostitution ring (i.e. he tells her fuck all, he should have told her outright but that's another discussion)
  • She asks that the mc forgive her, and the mc agrees that she was being used so he doesn't think it was her fault (plus seriously who would be complaining about a cute roommate grinding you during sorority pledging...)
  • When pressed she tells the mc she still has some things she doesn't want to tell him about (we know now it was about being a lesbian etc. and it was kinda silly that she couldn't tell him)
  • Then she blows up about her family being disappointed in her
  • After some consoling she initiates a makeout session. She feels conflicted afterwards but definitely drawn to the mc. She tells the mc that she shouldn't be using him like this, he says he wants it. They go to separate beds.
  • He meets Maya in class again and he and Derek laugh about raiding the the preps mansion and toothbrushes
  • That night he chats with Maya before going off to the DIKs party
  • He does some pledge stuff which involves a shot off Sarah’s cooch and then kisses her and then gets a foot job from Sarah, Mel and Riona, then he fucks the shit out of Sarah
  • The next morning he tells Maya he's headed home for a date, then teases her about her being jealous. She obviously feels something as she tries to convince him and herself she isn't jealous.
  • He then goes on his date with Josy, they have a nice night and then she gets upset about long distant relationships and all that. She tells him he's not just with her because she's lonely, she obviously likes him. He goes to leave, she says stay, they sleep in the same bed and he makes a move on her resulting in a blowjob and sex and then he does a runner.
  • When he returns, Maya hugs him, and immediately asks about his date and then asks about the girl, saying she feels a bit awkward. Maya and MC only kissed once before this, but she obviously has feelings for him. Then they talk about how love hurts and shit like that. MC feels they are slowly opening up to each other
  • MC then gets some Chad-cheating evidence for Sage and makes out with her and plans to teach her guitar.
  • MC then flirts with Jill and Bella doing Yoga
  • MC then goes out on a "date" with Bella and ends up making out with her at her home.
  • MC chats some more with Maya in class
  • MC goes to Sage and starts teaching her guitar, starts flirting, they make out and then she gives him a boob job
  • Later MC flirts with Jade after class
  • Next time Maya sees the MC he has been hit by Chad, she's concerned for him. Maya also confides that she has to do a lot of sexual things to get into the HOTs
  • MC offers to help her
  • Maya confides that she's a lesbian and also says it's strange that she has feeling for mc
  • Later Maya and mc kiss on the picnic rug
  • Later MC flirts with Jade at the lunch table
  • In class Maya discusses Derek's attempts towards women
  • Later mc gets a hand job and blow job from Sage
  • Then MC goes to a strip joint where he feels up strippers including fingering Rose and Lily and gets a blow job from Envy and ass fucks her.
  • Next day he talks to Josy who says she's coming to college and wants to stay with him, he tells her he's staying in a dorm with a girl, he also says that while he cares for Josy, it bugs him that she has a boyfriend. She intends to tell him everything once she sees him
  • MC then meets up with Jill in the library and they flirt a bit and she kisses him after the DnG game
  • MC then fucks Mona and Camila in toilet stall
  • MC then flirts more with Jade and gets a foot job and a hand job during class
  • MC then breaks into prep mansion, romances Jill and asks her on a date
  • MC then goes straight to the library and makes out with Bella
  • MC then visits Quinn and has all kinds of sex with Quinn and Riona
  • Then Josey rocks up and MC bales to Sage's like a little bitch and the Internet goes insane because these girls are just monsters - how dare they do this to the MC!!!
  • Then at the HOTs’ mc has all kinds of shower sex with Mel with Sarah enjoying the show
  • Then MC grinds Quinn and has her wank him off into her cunt.
  • Then he makes out with Sage in the pool and gets a hand job followed by a boob job.
  • Then he hangs out naked in the sauna with Sara, Mel, Ashley and Lily where Lily grinds naked on him and he eats Ashley out
  • Then he spies on Heather masturbating
  • Then he starts sexting to Cathy, Nicole and a bunch of other girls
  • Then he hangs out with Sage at the movie night holding hands(!) fingering her and then total mind blowing sex
  • Then Maya comes to talk to MC in genre studies and he gets all weird.
  • Then he goes on a date with Jill and makes out with her at the end
  • Then he fucks Quinn on the roof.
  • Then he confronts Maya and Josey and they say they just want to be friends with him (probably because they are fucking scared of all the venereal diseases he’s carrying). The Internet again goes berserk and wants these girls (particularly Maya, you know because of dishonesty), to be lynched!
  • Then he goes off and Fucks Jade and records it
  • The he meets up with Riona at the prep's mansion and fucks her left, right and center
  • Then he joins Mel, Sarah and Heather in the sauna, gets a blow job from Sarah and Mel and cums on Heather's tits (haha! Sorry...)
  • Then he meets up with Maya and Josey, drinks some champagne and chats. Then when Josy asks for some help, he says, “sorry I’m busy” (spiteful cunt!)
  • Then he makes out with Camila, gets a blow job and then ass fucks her
  • Then he flirts with Jade at the party, grabbing her ass
  • Then he makes out with Lily, gets a blow job and wanks himself off into her cunt
  • Then he fucks Sage
  • Later that night he gets a blow job from Cathy
  • Back at Bella's hose he makes out with Jill
Now after reading all that, is anyone still of the opinion that if they were the mc, they would get all angry at Maya and Josy because they didn't want to continue a romantic relationship with him and preferred to be just friends? The motherfucker has bitches lined up from one side of campus to the other, is he really gonna be bummed out because 2, out of 15 babes he was banging didn't want to continue getting jiggy with him?
... I mean I would... I'm fucking greedy
 

mindern

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Just FYI, current compressed version seems to be broken very near to the beginning of the game.
Is it when Josy is in your room after finding Maya’s father in their room?

unless it was patched out it isn’t broken it’s DPC putting some bullshit into the game to crash it if you’re using a save file that used cheats/walkthrough mod. There’s a workaround listed somewhere.
 
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Is it when Josy is in your room after finding Maya’s father in their room?

unless it was patched out it isn’t broken it’s DPC putting some bullshit into the game to crash it if you’re using a save file that used cheats/walkthrough mod. There’s a workaround listed somewhere.
No, its during the part where its explaining how tests in the game work. Going by the file name, I think its supposed to explain cheating, but I'm not sure.
 

felicemastronzo

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- Yes but people will trust me more than you, I'm a women. -

It is really that simple IMO . :) . Folks, nitpicking on this too much. The Simple truth is MC is a fresh nobody, who is already labeled as a pervert, and have multiple witness of him breaking into a to the Girls house to steal their panties. He can imply all he want, he has no actual proof , and with sage, hmm, Sage has this sentimental feeling toward Quinn because She was her " daughter" . so no point for MC to put His relationship with Sage in a jeopardy, on a "hearsay".

I don't think MC is in any position, that he can claim something like this without actuall proof., and come out as victorious from the situation. Not to mention we know something, MC does not know. That Burke, is heavily involved , and He is the Principal.

This is another one of those situation, when we the Players know way to much, and when it's come to criticism of the characters or the action they take, We or some folks, see it as from their perspective with all the knowledge

That is why the Affinity System is bullshit, because characters cannot have knowledge about what MC though in his head. Like with the first meeting with Steve, " Think a bad thought " - This Give you Dik point wich is effect some outcome with Josy .
Nonsense. The MC doesn't need to persuade a jury. He just needs to convince Sage to look into the matter herself, and Sage absolutely values his opinion.

If the MC told Sage that Quinn was running a prostitution racket out of the HOTs she might well be skeptical (as she should be), but she wouldn't dismiss him out of hand. Not at this point in the story. And as little as the pure-CHICK MC knows about how the restaurant works, that could still be enough to bring the whole thing crashing down if people are actively looking for it. If nothing else, it should convince Sage to make a serious effort to contact Mona and grill Camila over what happened to her pledge sister.

I will agree that some MCs (especially those using the restaurant) might not want to get involved. But plenty of other MCs should want to (whether to protect Sage or to spite Quinn), and we simply never get the option to let them. That is, IMHO, a legitimate plot hole.
the problem isn't whether MC tells Sage or not, the problem is that he doesn't even pose himself the problem

in the course of the game there are many moments in which mc wonders about his behavior, why isn't Quinn's blatant betrayal of Sage's trust a problem? even in the most faithful path possible to Sage, MC doesn't even pose the problem of warning Sage about the danger she' s running, then I'm ok with the fact that for narrative reasons he decides not to do anything, but he simply doesn't care, and if he's in a relationship with Quinn he doesn't care in either direction.
 

felicemastronzo

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Good tried there, and yet explain me this:

1) How DPC dare to write a porn-college story without an accurate representation of the finance world?. Doesnt he understand that most of player want to submerge themselfs into other country law conflicts after wanking themselfs with Sage boobs? It's not clear to everyone that loan's regulations are a fundamental part of any story.

2) How DPC dare to write a story in wich some people don't understand this issues? Is not clear that we live in a world in wich there are not people who are ignorant about this issues and therefore are scam? After all, did someone ever heard of finance scam?

3) How DPC pretend us to like a 19 years old busty blonde if she doesn't understand finance law? How can we find her atractive is she prefer to "watch movies" with us half naked instead of studying finance?

Well, where is your "suspension of disbielief" now?
but above all, why would there be thinking female characters in a porn game?

the word of man is law.
if a rich creep tells you that your boyfriend is an arsonist and that only his intervention has saved him from hard labour, why shouldn't you believe him? if he asks you "only" not to see him and in the meantime to hang out with him why shouldn't you believe him? he has the penis (small or big it doesn't matter), he's surely in the right

If your father, after having prevented you from seeing your girlfriend and after having insulted you all your life, proposes you to sign a blank paper, why shouldn't you trust him? He has the penis that generated you, you have to respect him.

If this same father who prevented you from seeing your girlfriend and afterwards made you sign a loan for which you risk bankruptcy has the keys of your room why shouldn't you live for more than one week with the girl your father hates? how could he come without telling you beforehand? he is your father, you have to trust him


have you noticed that there are no electrical sockets in the game? in my opinion it's no accident, we're not sure if a man told every girl not to put metal objects in them

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:


i'm joking
 

Forsaken9027

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I got an error. could anyone help me?

While running game code:
Exception: Possible infinite loop

Full traceback:
File "season2/rewards/reward_render_screens/rewards_renders_ep5.rpyc" , line 263 in script
File "G:\BeingADIK-0.6.0-pc-lin\renpy\execution.py" , line 59, in check_infinite_loop
raise Exception ("Possible infinite loop." )
Exception: Possible infinite loop
 

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Joking aside, I hope you enjoy the game. I worked my ass off to create this and boy this is expensive.

I need funding to complete this project.

If you can't afford to donate on Patreon, you can still show support by liking or reviewing the game.

Cheers
amazing game...you knocked it out of the park with this one
 

EmperorGus

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Why was Elena & JohnBoy fighting in Episode 7 again? Before JohnBoy came to HOT party and they made up
Don't think a specific reason was given.
But, tension between DIKs and HOTs would make sense.

Personally,
I'm still waiting for Sage to figure how the she should have the HOTS apologize to the DIKs for screwing up their Hell Week. Publicly, that is. Not just explaining it to MC, but taking responsibility for the fact that the HOTs did not fulfil their promise to be there and didn't even have the courtesy to warn them ahead of time. (Yes, I'm aware it was Quinn specifically, but the whole point of Greek Orders is that they act as a group. So it falls on all of them to apologize.)

Or at least for one of the DIKs to point it out to one of the HOTs next time one of the girls say they're waiting for the guys to 'come around'.
 
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Story has many flaws. It makes it looks silly. For example, Jill promises not to meet Mc forever because of the threaten of Tybalt. What a stupid story! Maybe the writer has forgeten Jill is more powerful and rich than Tybalt. And Jill even make a date with him. It is ntr plot.
I have the perfect solution for you - stop playing the game and live happily ever after!
 

felicemastronzo

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Don't think a specific reason was given.
But, tension between DIKs and HOTs would make sense.

Personally,
I'm still waiting for Sage to figure how the she should have the HOTS apologize to the DIKs for screwing up their Hell Week. Publicly, that is. Not just explaining it to MC, but taking responsibility for the fact that the HOTs did not fulfil their promise to be there and didn't even have the courtesy to warn them ahead of time. (Yes, I'm aware it was Quinn specifically, but the whole point of Greek Orders is that they act as a group. So it falls on all of them to apologize.)

Or at least for one of the DIKs to point it out to one of the HOTs next time one of the girls say they're waiting for the guys to 'come around'.
I think this is already out of date. Tommy, who is the only one who might object, knows that Quinn is to blame. John boy, Jacob and Mc didn't mind going to the HOTs party.

individually both Sage and, in her own way, Quinn apologized to MC.

it's all stopped just because the DIKs are still working on their mansion
 

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I think this is already out of date. Tommy, who is the only one who might object, knows that Quinn is to blame. John boy, Jacob and Mc didn't mind going to the HOTs party.

individually both Sage and, in her own way, Quinn apologized to MC.

it's all stopped just because the DIKs are still working on their mansion
Just because they still went to the party doesn't mean that they're not owed an apology.
It's just a matter of principal.
The HOTs (as a group) screwed the DIKs (as a group) and haven't said anything about it outside of the private explanation Sage gave MC.

And what brought it to my mind again was (atm I forget which girl) commented at the party if the DIKs were 'finally coming around'. As if they had zero right to be annoyed.
It was the other moment at the party I really wanted a chat option for the MC to retort.
 

felicemastronzo

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Just because they still went to the party doesn't mean that they're not owed an apology.
It's just a matter of principal.
The HOTs (as a group) screwed the DIKs (as a group) and haven't said anything about it outside of the private explanation Sage gave MC.

And what brought it to my mind again was (atm I forget which girl) commented at the party if the DIKs were 'finally coming around'. As if they had zero right to be annoyed.
It was the other moment at the party I really wanted a chat option for the MC to retort.
if they were on bad terms they wouldn't have gone, you don't go to the party of someone you think has wronged you.

in my opinion just as a group it's all behind them, the DIKs know it was Quinn who should have warned them and didn't, it's also possible that Sage talked to Rusty about it directly.
even Tommy and Quinn in their own way have cleared the air....

I don't think there will be this official apology moment.
 

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The loan tickles my suspension of disbelief, just a bit. But it's not even close to breaking it.
I take it for what it is. A story element meant to highlight A) that her father is a monster and B) Maya is in a pretty damn stressful situation.
It's exactly that.

It comes down to the detail, the important thing is the consequence. To accept fiction, you have to be able to accept that certain small details are not consistent with our world.

In addition to the sentence that Maya comes out after, it is typically the means that an author uses to tell us that.

Or even simpler, in the fictional world of the work, it is quite possible.

I hope you can get past that sort of thing, otherwise works of fiction should not be your cup of tea.
 
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