VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[The Pink Royce]

Then I'm sure that if Bella/Josy/Quinn trained her it would be absolutely consistent with Jill's character, because being both stubborn and naive she can do the biggest stupid things without the slightest hesitation.

yeah thats what girls do when they're alone and/or on slumber parties .
they train each other .

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Josy and Maya popularity dropped crazy when they're revealed as a couple .
Not sure why so much fandom for 3ways and why Josy ?

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Jills plot is that she's not afraid of her feelings but shys away from intimacy
and all of sudden she has girl on girl with Quinn ?

There is no reason to hate , just enjoy the ride .
If Jill will finally cross the line its gonna be MC ,thats just her story . Question is when and how .

 

[mindern]

Jill has every reason in the world to doubt that Mc is the right person, but this fragility, this insecurity about him is just childish (and instrumental to the story). besides, it's a dead end, how do you train to have good sex without having sex? and it was such a pet peeve of hers that she had to improvise an excuse....

my take on it wasn’t she had specific fragility or insecurity around him or sex... she is generally fragile and insecure. About everything. Which makes sense. Her sister was apparently her closest friend and was banished and later died. She was bullied, she had bad dating experiences and swore it off. God knows what happened with Bella in bed.

She blushed and had to admit to MC when she caught sight of his penis. She’s borderline distraught at failing to perform a relatively complicated bit of classical music flawlessly. She hides her family name, All she knows about dating is born of 1980’s sitcoms, the three date rule and stuff.

Jill’s apprehensions to have sex is a symptom of something bigger. DPC has dropped the ball a little on her because he had to put titillation in this game with her to keep people interested. Jill’s a pretty damaged person keeping it together through a facade and keeping people at a distance.

Shy about seeing a penis. That is Jill. Footsie under the table and nearly-but-not-quite grazing MC’s crotch during a kiss... that is Jill. Calling the MC because she’s worried about a piano performance. Being upset when he accidentally heard her play. Can’t flirt, feels awkward doing it... not standing up to Tybalt ever and letting this blackmail stuff go on. It isn’t just sex.

Jill is suffering from the medium she’s placed in. Don’t get me wrong I’m not claiming she’s some great character for the ages but the (pretty basic) concepts DPC is building her around don’t play well in a titty game. Her lack of confidence is coalescing around sex because that’s a central element of the game.

But she’s changing. If the lake scene is anything to go by. Hopefully the MC does more of what he did in the auditorium and helps her relax and just go with the flow. I think the way past this issue is generally making her more confident not specifically training sex or whatever. Again, apprehension sexually just a symptom not a specific problem.

 

[Connoisseur NTR]

WOW I didnt know that episode 7 is out already XD

 

[felicemastronzo]

my take on it wasn’t she had specific fragility or insecurity around him or sex... she is generally fragile and insecure. About everything. Which makes sense. Her sister was apparently her closest friend and was banished and later died. She was bullied, she had bad dating experiences and swore it off. God knows what happened with Bella in bed.

She blushed and had to admit to MC when she caught sight of his penis. She’s borderline distraught at failing to perform a relatively complicated bit of classical music flawlessly. She hides her family name, All she knows about dating is born of 1980’s sitcoms, the three date rule and stuff.

Jill’s apprehensions to have sex is a symptom of something bigger. DPC has dropped the ball a little on her because he had to put titillation in this game with her to keep people interested. Jill’s a pretty damaged person keeping it together through a facade and keeping people at a distance.

Shy about seeing a penis. That is Jill. Footsie under the table and nearly-but-not-quite grazing MC’s crotch during a kiss... that is Jill. Calling the MC because she’s worried about a piano performance. Being upset when he accidentally heard her play. Can’t flirt, feels awkward doing it... list goes on and on. It isn’t just sex.

Jill is suffering from the medium she’s placed in. Don’t get me wrong I’m not claiming she’s some great character for the ages but the (pretty basic) concepts DPC is building her around don’t play well in a titty game.

But she’s changing. If the lake scene is anything to go by. Hopefully the MC does more of what he did in the auditorium and helps her relax and just go with the flow. I think the way past this issue is generally making her more confident not specifically training sex or whatever. Again, apprehension sexually just a symptom not a specific problem.

there had to be a real sex scene in her gallery at some point...

it seems to me that Jill's fears are quite concentrated in the sexual sphere, unlike Maya she is a sociable girl who took very little time to bond with Josy despite her competition for MC, she is not afraid of professors and college.

being anxious in front of a public performance is normal, it would be strange the opposite, even getting nervous in front of a naked man is normal.

in the end we always describe her as stubborn and naive because that is a shortcut to justify any behaviour. if she does something stupid she is naive, how could she deal with the issue differently on her own? if she continues to do something that those around her advise her against then she is stubborn

DPC overplayed his hand, Jill, I repeat, would have every reason not to trust MC completely and therefore not want to give herself to him completely, but that wasn't enough, Jill had to be a virgin (which at 20 years old and with that look makes her a unicorn), but that wasn't enough either, she's a virgin who's afraid of anything she thinks might make her lose control (to her though, because being half naked in front of MC is fine, his problems), she'd be an excessive character even in a TV context, she's 20 not 14

 

[The Pink Royce]

my take on it wasn’t she had specific fragility or insecurity around him or sex... she is generally fragile and insecure. About everything. Which makes sense. Her sister was apparently her closest friend and was banished and later died. She was bullied, she had bad dating experiences and swore it off. God knows what happened with Bella in bed.

She blushed and had to admit to MC when she caught sight of his penis. She’s borderline distraught at failing to perform a relatively complicated bit of classical music flawlessly. She hides her family name, All she knows about dating is born of 1980’s sitcoms, the three date rule and stuff.

Jill’s apprehensions to have sex is a symptom of something bigger. DPC has dropped the ball a little on her because he had to put titillation in this game with her to keep people interested. Jill’s a pretty damaged person keeping it together through a facade and keeping people at a distance.

Shy about seeing a penis. That is Jill. Footsie under the table and nearly-but-not-quite grazing MC’s crotch during a kiss... that is Jill. Calling the MC because she’s worried about a piano performance. Being upset when he accidentally heard her play. Can’t flirt, feels awkward doing it... not standing up to Tybalt ever and letting this blackmail stuff go on. It isn’t just sex.

Jill is suffering from the medium she’s placed in. Don’t get me wrong I’m not claiming she’s some great character for the ages but the (pretty basic) concepts DPC is building her around don’t play well in a titty game. Her lack of confidence is coalescing around sex because that’s a central element of the game.

But she’s changing. If the lake scene is anything to go by. Hopefully the MC does more of what he did in the auditorium and helps her relax and just go with the flow. I think the way past this issue is generally making her more confident not specifically training sex or whatever. Again, apprehension sexually just a symptom not a specific problem.

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The constant hate on Jill in this forums makes her more interesting then she actually is .
I initially waved her off for being clingy and boring , spent time with Sage and Bella .

I think i've grown to like her in big part because i often end up defending her .

Honestly there are so many lewd scenes in this game . you can easly sacrifice one just for
the sake of interesting story.

 

[Carl_CarlTanuel]

I just love how the realtionship between the mc and Quinn is slowly moving from disliking and toxic to opening up and comforting.

 

[The Pink Royce]

I just love how the realtionship between the mc and Quinn is slowly moving from disliking and toxic to opening up and comforting.

oh

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[BeenThroughHell]

just wanna mention it, the prep's mansion now was MC's Mom old Hotel/House right.And I have a feeling that in the future chapters. It will somehow reveal his MC's Mom.

 

[Daver]

Would you be ok be she never gave it up? What if she turns you down? Did you really think that she would never turn around, go to Tybalt, and desert you?

I'm sorry I couldn't help myself. I lost to temptation.

On another note, I've done like 3-4 full playthroughs so far, but only when I decided to really pay attention to the scenes and dialogue in my most recent Bella playthrough did I notice that this girl here was Mona. Prior to that I thought the thing about Mona dropping out was just something the characters assumed. Just goes to show how inattentive I was towards the scenes, especially this one, I always thought it was just a filler scene and never really looked at it closely.

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Additionally, I finally had the pleasure of looking at my girl Sage's cute sleeping face (which you don't get to see unless you're just friends with her, strictly no fuckbuddy shit), and I must say, there's a reason why she's at the top of my LI list. She's so cute my heart goes thump every time I look at her.

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and don't forget

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[Daver]

oh

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too early, we have to wait until cap 16 or 20

 

[felicemastronzo]

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The constant hate on Jill in this forums makes her more interesting then she actually is .
I initially waved her off for being clingy and boring , spent time with Sage and Bella .

I think i've grown to like her in big part because i often end up defending her .

Honestly there are so many lewd scenes in this game . you can easly sacrifice one just for
the sake of interesting story.

she is so a satisfying character that is only bearable with the sexual scenes you have with other female characters...

you really appreciate her...

all Lis have obvious flaws, talking about them doesn't mean you hate them, pretending they aren't there doesn't mean you're worthy of their eternal love

 

[Hesteros]

Dishing out sick burns... and that lovely smirk.

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[dalli_x]

Somehow the story doesn't fit together from beginning to end.

Sometimes I have the feeling that there are twins or that the story is shifted in time. Somehow some also seem to know the MC. There could also be several siblings.

For example. When the MC speaks the second time Josy in the store, we see the alcohol shelf. There is no bottle with the Pink Rose logo. But on the date, she brings a bottle that has the Pink Rose logo. She says that she took it from her father and that Tommy will accuse her of taking it. All well and good. But how does the father get the bottle. In EP5 Josy tells the MC that she has a flashback from her first date. Hello, this is only a few days ago, if you go from the played time performance.

What if the MC had an accident between the date with Josy and on the way to college. Neil rented a car to take his son to college. Even though he is so strapped for cash. What if the MC was driving to college for the first time with his brother and there was an accident. Everyone always speculates if Mel is Troy's sister. But Josy and Maya once talked to the MC about hairstyles and Maya mentioned that her brother once grew longer hair. Now imagine Troy with short hair. Who does he look like? Oh yes. Troy has a black eye. Tommy likes to hand those out. Also, Troy actually makes a worried face as the MC angrily storms out of the room. He also woke him up to get to class on time. Let's take a look at Caleb. He flicks Tommy in the nose and actually leaves the MC alone. His face is not aggressive towards the MC. The other jocks are actually waiting anxiously for the MC's reaction and are startled that the MC is attacking Caleb. Also Caleb has not counted on it. Is he perhaps also a brother of the MC? Or maybe a brother/half-brother of Josy. He also has a birthmark on the left side of his mouth.

In any case, there are many irregularities in the story. I think that maybe DPC first collects information about the game behavior and in the end puts all the pieces together, so that the player gets a kind of VN, which corresponds to the individual play style. If that's the case, it's a stroke of genius by DPC.

 

[shazba]

she is so a satisfying character that is only bearable with the sexual scenes you have with other female characters...

you really appreciate her...

all Lis have obvious flaws, talking about them doesn't mean you hate them, pretending they aren't there doesn't mean you're worthy of their eternal love

Beat me to it. If they were perfect we'd just be arguing over who is the most perfectest!

I wrote "perfectest" as a joke, surprised the spell checker likes it.

Somehow the story doesn't fit together from beginning to end.

Sometimes I have the feeling that there are twins or that the story is shifted in time. Somehow some also seem to know the MC. There could also be several siblings.

For example. When the MC speaks the second time Josy in the store, we see the alcohol shelf. There is no bottle with the Pink Rose logo. But on the date, she brings a bottle that has the Pink Rose logo. She says that she took it from her father and that Tommy will accuse her of taking it. All well and good. But how does the father get the bottle. In EP5 Josy tells the MC that she has a flashback from her first date. Hello, this is only a few days ago, if you go from the played time performance.

What if the MC had an accident between the date with Josy and on the way to college. Neil rented a car to take his son to college. Even though he is so strapped for cash. What if the MC was driving to college for the first time with his brother and there was an accident. Everyone always speculates if Mel is Troy's sister. But Josy and Maya once talked to the MC about hairstyles and Maya mentioned that her brother once grew longer hair. Now imagine Troy with short hair. Who does he look like? Oh yes. Troy has a black eye. Tommy likes to hand those out. Also, Troy actually makes a worried face as the MC angrily storms out of the room. He also woke him up to get to class on time. Let's take a look at Caleb. He flicks Tommy in the nose and actually leaves the MC alone. His face is not aggressive towards the MC. The other jocks are actually waiting anxiously for the MC's reaction and are startled that the MC is attacking Caleb. Also Caleb has not counted on it. Is he perhaps also a brother of the MC? Or maybe a brother/half-brother of Josy. He also has a birthmark on the left side of his mouth.

In any case, there are many irregularities in the story. I think that maybe DPC first collects information about the game behavior and in the end puts all the pieces together, so that the player gets a kind of VN, which corresponds to the individual play style. If that's the case, it's a stroke of genius by DPC.

I feel this quote deserves more than a three letter abbreviation, so I'm gonna respect it with the full words:

What the fuck!?

 

[AchedCroissant]

oh

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[The Pink Royce]

she is so a satisfying character that is only bearable with the sexual scenes you have with other female characters...

you really appreciate her...

all Lis have obvious flaws, talking about them doesn't mean you hate them, pretending they aren't there doesn't mean you're worthy of their eternal love

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yeah i do appreciate her / her story .

i was pointing out other lewd scenes for people complaning about Jill lacking one

i honestly thought she will be the easiest to get lewd scene with .

but no she's not satisfying character . unless chapter 8 is all about Jill i won't be satisfied.
(ok ok im just yanking your chain at this point.)

 

[dalli_x]

Beat me to it. If they were perfect we'd just be arguing over who is the most perfectest!

I wrote "perfectest" as a joke, surprised the spell checker likes it.


I feel this quote deserves more than a three letter abbreviation, so I'm gonna respect it with the full words:

What the fuck!?

The joke is that I play the game on the devilish setting.

You can play it on Jill's rule of 3, on diabolical or chick. You set it where the MC paints Steve's picture for Josy.

In EP1, you set the entire game to one configuration. Whether Josy will become Josephine. Whether there will be a double penetration with Josy. etc. But the most amazing thing is that Maya becomes the opposite of Josy.

 

[The Pink Royce]

just wanna mention it, the prep's mansion now was MC's Mom old Hotel/House right.And I have a feeling that in the future chapters. It will somehow reveal his MC's Mom.

i'll make sure to take extra look at this next play through . thanks for pointing it out.

Problem with theories like Rusty is MCs cousin or something is that it doesnt exactly add this much .
the theories like MC is related to (GRIL NAME) are even worse because they'd take away .

im sure there will be some twist . you have 7000 pages of forums with crockpot theories .

 

[dalli_x]

Shazba you laugh.
Look at the following pictures. When you select Nasty Joke, the MC makes a hand sign. Read the text and google the meaning of this hand sign. Who laughs last.

 

[Niu6609]

Right, I've been genuinely confused by this scene for a while now. We all know Sage is in her third year, and since the DIKs were formed two years ago, this would mean that she was in her first year when she was appointed president. This raises the question, why would the HOTs pick a freshman as a president? Were there no competent seniors in the HOTs? It's been stated in the game that the HOTs have been present for quite a while, so what's up with that?

Could it be that Sage used her family name to push her to the president position? The whole chronology of the game boggles me at times, and this is one of those times. I've seen this scene so many times before and the same questions always pop up in my head.



Continuing on, although I have agreed on this point before, I finally actually understand what people mean about the characterization of Sage in Episodes 6 and 7 being weak and crumbling her personality thus far into the game. I really don't get it, for an MC that has rejected all her advances, she seems to want to appeal to him more than they would on the fuck buddy route even when it's clear that MC only wants to be friends. It's somewhat odd, and even suggests that she has had feelings for him while she was dating Chad, which makes it even worse for me than in the fuck buddy route, honestly, because at least she was more hesitant about her feelings after her breakup there and actually gave it some thought instead of rushing right into things. But on the 'just friends' route, she's the proactive one and somehow has moved on immediately from a two-year relationship, to the point where she's already looking to date the MC. It's just..... a huge contrast, and I don't think the 'just friends' route fits her personality so far, even though I still love her.

Just my two cents.