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Why Maya is being hated is terrain for speculation. First couse there are different people who hate her, second, couse as someone told me "Dont believe everything people said on the internet". You dont agree, ok then, we disagree. To the purpose of the original point is irrelevant.

Noone has the obligation to clarify people who almoast dont know what their sexual orientation is. Therefore i am sorry but i dont see reasons to reproach her that she said "boyfriend" or "girlfriend". Is a private matter and everyone should respect that privacy in Saudi Arabia or watever place you choose. There is nothing to forgive.
About your others claims against them, i also disagree but they are not on the topic of the argument.

I never said that you should forgive her couse she is a lesbian. I said when the crime is not a legit one the lie it is. If you are a lesbian and dont want to tell people that couse the backlash you are going to suffer for being a lesbian, then it is legit to lie. I cannot make myself more clear about this.

"that she pushes her away for the umpteenth time is ok?"
That depends on the reason, as always. Thats why the MC, Josy and Maya, all of them thought it was the best move. Because it clearly is.

"she trusts her father after he prevented her from seeing her girlfriend and insulted her all her life for who she is. what did he have to do to prove himself untrustworthy?"

We already argued this and the things that came, we disagree. Also i dont see how it is relevan to the point.
If I say Maya is hated because of some of her behaviors it's just as terrain for speculation as if you say they hate her because she's gay...or is it?

when MC says that it is too late and that he is now interested in her, Maya, if she were a correct person, should simply tell him that she is not interested, she should not tell him that she is a lesbian, nor of Josy, she should simply tell him that she does not reciprocate, instead she gloats and keeps silent

she is lying because having a mc who pampers her makes her happy, and she decides to let him do it. she is behaving incorrectly, there is nothing to elaborate. it is not about privacy, it is about respecting the feelings of others

do you think Maya would have grinded on another guy who was not MC? I don't think so. and when she sees him again, instead of apologizing, she asks him for help again. because she has the big problems and the others have to comply

you say Maya never has a choice, I say she puts herself in quite obvious dead ends, 3 times in 7 chapters, a good average

but let's stick to the story
but when Maya tells him that she has ruined every chance MC has given her what do you think she is referring to? Maya takes on a lot more blame than you give her credit for, evidently

If she recognizes that she has wasted a lot of chances, it is possible that a player agrees with her and does not want to give her any more chances, isn't it? but the game forces him to give her another one anyway. I would say frustrating.
 

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*sighs* well you guys don't give a small warning where you tell the user to calm down or you may get punished instead you just think banning them without giving them a heads up is a good idea? Well good for you, "any other shit you may think of." Can you be more specific?
Dude,ur signature,the left one,the reaper of full,what's that game?
 

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If I say Maya is hated because of some of her behaviors it's just as terrain for speculation as if you say they hate her because she's gay...or is it?

when MC says that it is too late and that he is now interested in her, Maya, if she were a correct person, should simply tell him that she is not interested, she should not tell him that she is a lesbian, nor of Josy, she should simply tell him that she does not reciprocate, instead she gloats and keeps silent

she is lying because having a mc who pampers her makes her happy, and she decides to let him do it. she is behaving incorrectly, there is nothing to elaborate. it is not about privacy, it is about respecting the feelings of others

do you think Maya would have grinded on another guy who was not MC? I don't think so. and when she sees him again, instead of apologizing, she asks him for help again. because she has the big problems and the others have to comply

you say Maya never has a choice, I say she puts herself in quite obvious dead ends, 3 times in 7 chapters, a good average

but let's stick to the story
but when Maya tells him that she has ruined every chance MC has given her what do you think she is referring to? Maya takes on a lot more blame than you give her credit for, evidently

If she recognizes that she has wasted a lot of chances, it is possible that a player agrees with her and does not want to give her any more chances, isn't it? but the game forces him to give her another one anyway. I would say frustrating.
She is selfish, but most people are. When it comes to personal problems most of us would prioritize our own. It's only natural. Also you are right, there should be options to challenge Maya on these parts, but I don't blame Maya for this even tho it's obvious she should realize this sooner or later, because the mc is supportive of her so she is just simply grateful.
 

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Maya's desperately in need of mental support atm, and seeing Sage go and talk to her about her problems made me feel better for her, even if just a bit. As it stands, the only people around her who she truly trusts are Josy and the MC, and neither of them have the ability to realistically help her; all they can do is provide mental support. I was inwardly cheering when I saw Sage converse with her because 1. IMO if there's anyone who can actually help her right now, it's Sage, what with her seemingly coming from a wealthy family; 2. it's nice to see someone other than Josy, Derek and the MC genuinely care for Maya. She doesn't exactly have close relationships with the HOTs as an introvert, so it's pretty big for me that Sage stepped up on her own to talk to her and close the distance between them.

Personally, I don't understand why people choose to hate on Maya. You can dislike her as a character, but outright dissing her and shitting on her? Makes no sense to me. She's in a sticky situation, and stuff like that affects one's judgment and mentality, so it makes sense to me that she's unstable and temperamental. She needs help and no one can help her but herself. She probably has the idea that she's a burden to the people around her, thus she's subconsciously forcing people out of her life because she thinks they'll leave her eventually, leaving her alone and devastated when it happens.


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This is my interpretation of the character, in any case. Probably not as accurate as I'd like it to be, but I'd like to think that my idea lines up with what DPC was thinking.
your description seems to fit, Maya constantly needs help but directly or indirectly tends to push away those around her (both MC and Josy and Sage)

it seems clear to me that not all players can be interested, both in general and in a game like BADIK more and more. but the game doesn't allow you to really get away from Maya, this creates frustration, talking about hate always seems excessive.

the same more or less happens with Jill, with the not irrelevant difference that Jill in every action is in favor of MC, she doesn't ask for his help but she gives it even if not requested.
 
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She is selfish, but most people are. When it comes to personal problems most of us would prioritize our own. It's only natural. Also you are right, there should be options to challenge Maya on these parts, but I don't blame Maya for this even tho it's obvious she should realize this sooner or later, because the mc is supportive of her so she is just simply grateful.
but I agree with you, I have in fact "forgiven" her.

But I can't be surprised if someone else doesn't and doesn't want to.
 
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your description seems to fit, Maya constantly needs help but directly or indirectly tends to push away those around her (both MC and Josy and Sage)

it seems clear to me that not all players can be interested, both in general and in a game like BADIK more and more. but the game doesn't allow you to really get away from Maya, this creates frustration, talking about hate always seems excessive.

the same more or less happens with Jill, with the not irrelevant difference that Jill in every action is in favor of MC, she doesn't ask for his help but she gives it even if not requested.
Most of the time Jill is a self righteous busy body, in others she is a lost puppy I wouldn't exactly call that better than Maya. :)
 
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I said they are very similar in fact

But it is a profound difference that Maya asks you for help, while Jill gives it to you (in her own way and by getting into trouble).
Most of her scenes made me think of noblesse oblige. She is privileged, she is definitely better than most others and she acts accordingly, but without selfish reasons. That and she is way too naive.
 
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So Here is the thing, I Think that DPC fucked up a little or he *Intentionally* fucked up on the ending of ep7.
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Now in ep2, It was stated that the whole floor belonged to the Alpha's [ jocks ].
In ep7 ending MC goes to the same floor for changing:
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Look at the door he enters:
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Look at the interior:
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Firstly:-
Now, Why does MC even go to that floor on the first place when he knows that the whole floor belongs to alpha's? To look for more trouble or fight? He knows that the relations b/w jocks and diks are shit but still he goes on that floor.

Now One thing to mention is that in ep7 hallway, We see a guy behind MC, most probably coming out of a locker room as he has his gym bag with him. The guy is not a JOCK.

Now, we can assume that because of chad's fuck up in ep3, the alpha's were watched more and maybe their right to a gym floor was taken back for the while. This explains why another guy came out of the locker room and why MC goes there. Now obviously there are more floors and more rooms on a floor, at least 4 rooms.

Secondly:-
In ep2, MC enters the room which has alpha logo on it and catches chad talking to troy on the phone. In ep7 he enters the room that is on the left of that room he entered in ep2. The Images show the proof, same bin, same wall designs, and same doors.

Now, If you zoom closely to the Image, the alpha logo is very big almost covering the whole door leaving small sides behind.
Now the door that MC enters in ep7, we can pretty much say positively that the room he entered does not have the logo.
common sense ;)


The interiors of both the rooms are super different. Now, this would explain why MC entered that room, It does not have the alpha logo like the room right next to it and means that Its not an alpha-exclusive room and therefore no problems with jocks.

Now, why did chad and troy go to that room? It does not have the logo, anyone can enter it, so why risk their privacy when they could have easily gone to the next room which is alpha-exclusive? Were they so impatient to kiss each other that they entered the wrong room?

Now if the other jocks are present in the next room and if it is a odd time for someone to come to gym, then that might explain why they chose that room!

Honestly, this is the first question ever that I asked and answered myself:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.
 

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Most of her scenes made me think of noblesse oblige. She is privileged, she is definitely better than most others and she acts accordingly, but without selfish reasons. That and she is way too naive.
this may be true when she denounces Chad's aggression, but with Tybalt she just sacrifices herself, without even saying anything to MC, more altruistic than that is difficult.
 

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So Here is the thing, I Think that DPC fucked up a little or he *Intentionally* fucked up on the ending of ep7.
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Now in ep2, It was stated that the whole floor belonged to the Alpha's [ jocks ].
In ep7 ending MC goes to the same floor for changing:
View attachment 1233347 View attachment 1233349
Look at the door he enters:
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Look at the interior:
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Firstly:-
Now, Why does MC even go to that floor on the first place when he knows that the whole floor belongs to alpha's? To look for more trouble or fight? He knows that the relations b/w jocks and diks are shit but still he goes on that floor.

Now One thing to mention is that in ep7 hallway, We see a guy behind MC, most probably coming out of a locker room as he has his gym bag with him. The guy is not a JOCK.

Now, we can assume that because of chad's fuck up in ep3, the alpha's were watched more and maybe their right to a gym floor was taken back for the while. This explains why another guy came out of the locker room and why MC goes there. Now obviously there are more floors and more rooms on a floor, at least 4 rooms.

Secondly:-
In ep2, MC enters the room which has alpha logo on it and catches chad talking to troy on the phone. In ep7 he enters the room that is on the left of that room he entered in ep2. The Images show the proof, same bin, same wall designs, and same doors.

Now, If you zoom closely to the Image, the alpha logo is very big almost covering the whole door leaving small sides behind.
Now the door that MC enters in ep7, we can pretty much say positively that the room he entered does not have the logo.
common sense ;)


The interiors of both the rooms are super different. Now, this would explain why MC entered that room, It does not have the alpha logo like the room right next to it and means that Its not an alpha-exclusive room and therefore no problems with jocks.

Now, why did chad and troy go to that room? It does not have the logo, anyone can enter it, so why risk their privacy when they could have easily gone to the next room which is alpha-exclusive? Were they so impatient to kiss each other that they entered the wrong room?

Now if the other jocks are present in the next room and if it is a odd time for someone to come to gym, then that might explain why they chose that room!

Honestly, this is the first question ever that I asked and answered myself:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.
The mc's exact thoughts when he is spying on Chad is:

mc: "(This entire hallway seems to be theirs.)"​

He's just surmising, but no one confirmed it. Also the change room where he spies on Chad is definitely an Alpha's change room, given the signage. The one he uses in ep7 is not, which also explains why Chad and Troy are there, they are no longer Alphas (but I imagine the jocks wouldn't mind Chad using their allocated rooms, but perhaps not Troy).

So really, there's no issue, except Troy and Chad made a mistake of getting frisky when they thought there was no one around.

this may be true when she denounces Chad's aggression, but with Tybalt she just sacrifices herself, without even saying anything to MC, more altruistic than that is difficult.
She's just too damn stubborn, it's probably her worst feature. It totally annoyed me when the mc tried to explain sex isn't always great:

mc: "You can't control that, Jill."​
mc: "Believe me. You will have disappointing sex at some point, and it could very well be disappointing the first time you have it."​
mc: "I'm not trying to push you into doing something you don't want, but that's how it is."​
Jill: "Maybe for you."​
Argh, you argumentative woman! How many times have you had sex? Zero, that's right, maybe just listen to someone else for a change?

Be funny if she runs off crying to Bella:

Jill: Bella, Fuckface wanted to have sex with me but I was too stupid and turned him down. what can I do?​
Bella: Looks like you've blown it Jill, don't try to have sex with Fuckface anymore. I'm saying this because I love you, not because I don't want to share.​
Jill: W... what?​
 
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Most of her scenes made me think of noblesse oblige. She is privileged, she is definitely better than most others and she acts accordingly, but without selfish reasons. That and she is way too naive.
Jill come from a rich and well educated familly, she is not used to those peasants fucking like dogs in a back street !! It's not that she thinks she is better, she IS better in many ways. She comes from another world, this college with all those students is just like some alien planet full of strange creatures. She look at them as we look at some ants !:D
They also look a bit like this to me, i have spent 6 years in two universities and that college is something out of my world, i'm an olg guy now, so all those little creatures moving around, fucking around, making stupid pranks look silly to me!!:ROFLMAO:
And Jill looks naive because she doesn't understand the strange manners of those creatures.
 

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The mc's exact thoughts when he is spying on Chad is:

mc: "(This entire hallway seems to be theirs.)"​

He's just surmising, but no one confirmed it. Also the change room where he spies on Chad is definitely an Alpha's change room, given the signage. The one he uses in ep7 is not, which also explains why Chad and Troy are there, they are no longer Alphas (but I imagine the jocks wouldn't mind Chad using their allocated rooms, but perhaps not Troy).

So really, there's no issue, except Troy and Chad made a mistake of getting frisky when they thought there was no one around.
If you look carefully the hallway is full of alpha's poster, do you think the gym would let them cover a hallway with their posters unless and until it is their own hallway ?
PS: And people having their own mansions around or in the campus itself and most of them not being that influential, it comes no surprise that Alpha's who all are almost on a sports scholarship having their own hallway in a gym.
 

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I said they are very similar in fact

But it is a profound difference that Maya asks you for help, while Jill gives it to you (in her own way and by getting into trouble).
Hmm, maybe I remember wrong, but this whole Maya asking for your help thing is kind of exaggerated a little.
The only time she specifically ask for help is really after the cum-petition. Every other Time the MC is kind of automatically offering her to help .
 
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The mc's exact thoughts when he is spying on Chad is:

mc: "(This entire hallway seems to be theirs.)"​

He's just surmising, but no one confirmed it. Also the change room where he spies on Chad is definitely an Alpha's change room, given the signage. The one he uses in ep7 is not, which also explains why Chad and Troy are there, they are no longer Alphas (but I imagine the jocks wouldn't mind Chad using their allocated rooms, but perhaps not Troy).

So really, there's no issue, except Troy and Chad made a mistake of getting frisky when they thought there was no one around.
Nothing special there, in episode 2 it was the 3 alpha private locker room that the MC entered to spy on Chad and in 7 it's the common locker room because Chad's boyfriend has been expelled from the fraternity.
 

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If you look carefully the hallway is full of alpha's poster, do you think the gym would let them cover a hallway with their posters unless and until it is their own hallway ?
PS: And people having their own mansions around or in the campus itself and most of them not being that influential, it comes no surprise that Alpha's who all are almost on a sports scholarship having their own hallway in a gym.
I believe it's Dawe's family gym, so probably they are very happy to promote them all over the joint.
 
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