VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

Hmm, maybe I remember wrong, but this whole Maya asking for your help thing is kind of exaggerated a little.
The only time she specifically ask for help is really after the cum-petition. Every other Time the MC is kind of automatically offering her to help .

if you're smoking and I tell you I've run out of cigarettes, then you decide whether or not to offer me a cigarette, but I'm the one who asked you even without doing so

Likewise, when Maya tells you how she needs this free tuition, or how impossible it is for her to complete the scavenger hunt, she is asking for your help.

Yes. If we can't agree on the most simple issues, i have no hope of an agreement in the most complex one. So leave it in that.



Really? Maya is not interested in the MC?

at that point in the story Maya is at most intrigued by MC, but still a committed lesbian girl if she doesn't want to share anything personal should at least say she's not interested, shouldn't she?

Otherwise she's testing the ground, and since if Mc does it he's a horny dog, if Maya does it's not so much better

 

[`Ray`]

If you think about it she is the one with a pierced tongue and not Josy, but that just means she was treated so badly in her family she tends to cling to others and do pretty much anything for them as long they accept and comfort her.

This line of yours sounds like Maya is a slut. So, if Quinn really agreed to pay tuition fee or paid it for Maya as in comforting her and asks Her to become a part of restaurant, she will do it happily with a big smile. What you said, was satisfied in this case, Quinn comforted her and Maya did "pretty much anything" for her.

I know that this is not at all what you are trying to say, But look at the misunderstanding it caused, by this you are just insulting Maya's fans....*me included*

Now the main reason why I wrote the Quinn thing was that Maya had her tongue pierced only because of Josy who she loved deeply. She doesn't like Quinn so no, she won't do something like that for Quinn. She won't do anything for MC like that, unless she trusts him. You should express your views here, after all it's a discussion platform but you need to be careful about the words you use.

 

[bingolebongo]

Good lord, this is going to take me a while to go through... first playthrough lasted almost a week.

Also, I wonder how many bad jokes about burning to death there are in this thread.

 

[Laport Deminis]

at that point in the story Maya is at most intrigued by MC, but still a committed lesbian girl if she doesn't want to share anything personal should at least say she's not interested, shouldn't she?

Otherwise she's testing the ground, and since if Mc does it he's a horny dog, if Maya does it's not so much better

I am lost. She is intrigued but not interested. Is this some modern argot i dont knoow?.
Couse in my language this has no sense.

 

[Machete]

That will happen to you when you live under duress. Remember this teenager was being abused and humiliated every single day of his high school life, and paranoia is a pretty common symptom for people living in authoritarian states. It's quite evident his self-loathing for the things he did during incarceration, so I still think it was uncalled to just blow it up by the ending. Don't get me wrong I don't think he should've dated the normal girl (used to be anyway), but Hana was right there my man.

You might be right about the social commentary of the dying Japanese dating market (herbivore men and the like), but I still feel that ending was unfulfilling, just a sad ending where the MC pisses himself in front of both his love interests, while one doesn't acknowledge his feelings, the other is repulsed by his behavior. Just sad overall.

I was team Hana myself. They would have been quite a couple and there clearly was a dynamic between the two. By the way it was a kind of an open ending. No reason to exclude that, somehow, the two got togeter eventually. When Hana boicot the meeting between the Protagonist and the other girl, she was basically setting her territory.

 

[LoDoN-]

Maya loves MC and we can pinpoint the moment when she had realized it

During first weekend MC tells Maya he is going out on a date with Josy .

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MC asks her if she's jealous and maya gets akward and cute

You can comfort Maya at this point giving her kiss on a cheek and then MC goes out .

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MC goes back inside and she jumps him .

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But it looks like split second before she kisses him she realized she is in relationship already and it's not with MC .

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She composes her self at this point . Probably hoping it's enough to sabotage his date.

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Maya is very underrated character .

I guess someone could argue that this isnt love yet but a crush ,
and it develops into love later (even if MC friendzones her ).
And i'd say that it is a good point . But she went later from crush to love
without almost any effort on MCs part .

I remember while playing this bit and thinking of a scene in friends where Rachel kisses Ross, so he wouldn't forget her during his son's play date with a stripper mom. I was shocked by Maya's aggressiveness, pleasantly might I add.

Starting from now I need an only-Maya-route

Why want chocolate when you can have Chocolate & Vanilla (M&J). But yeah DPC I'M WATCHING NO TOMFOOLERY THIS TIME!

I was team Hana myself. They would have been quite a couple and there clearly was a dynamic between the two. By the way it was a kind of an open ending. No reason to exclude that, somehow, the two got togeter eventually. When Hana boicot the meeting between the Protagonist and the other girl, she was basically setting her territory.

A man can dream. Hopefully, you're right tho.

 

[Ottoeight]

You are totally right, but I think she still has a long way to go. If you think about it she is the one with a pierced tongue and not Josy, but that just means she was treated so badly in her family she tends to cling to others and do pretty much anything for them as long they accept and comfort her.

Don't get me wrong, I love Maya's character, but that doesn't mean that she can stand on her own, at least for now. Of course slowly but surely she is getting there and I can't wait to see more of her storyline.

We should remember that Josy & Maya's path branches into 2 different stories: when Josy's dad comes to see her you MUST choose to follow Josy or Maya. This is the point where you decide whether Josy comes first or Maya comes first.

I wholeheartedly recommend to save here and create 2 gamesaves: "Maya first" and "Josy first", because there are a few points in which you will have to give preference to Maya over Josy or Josy over Maya.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I am lost. She is intrigued but not interested. Is this some modern argot i dont knoow?.
Couse in my language this has no sense.

those are not really synonyms... being interested presupposes a feeling, being curious/intrigued does not.

but then I explained that even if she was interested in MC (I don't think so but it doesn't matter) being a lesbian and committed she would have to dissuade him anyway, not being selfishly silent

 

[felicemastronzo]

We should remember that Josy & Maya's path branches into 2 different stories: when Josy's dad comes to see her you MUST choose to follow Josy or Maya. This is the point where you decide whether Josy comes first or Maya comes first.

I wholeheartedly recommend to save here and create 2 gamesaves: "Maya first" and "Josy first", because there are a few points in which you will have to give preference to Maya over Josy or Josy over Maya.

No, you actually make the choice when you talk to Derek.

Whoever you follow at that time only buys RPs.

 

[Laport Deminis]

those are not really synonyms... being interested presupposes a feeling, being curious/intrigued does not.

but then I explained that even if she was interested in MC (I don't think so but it doesn't matter) being a lesbian and committed she would have to dissuade him anyway, not being selfishly silent

In my language are not synonyms, but to be intrigued means you are interested.
Anyway, why? You think she should had shoot him down couse he had no chance. The problem is that is quite obvious he had. So again, really?

 

[Daver]

Why want chocolate when you can have Chocolate & Vanilla (M&J). But yeah DPC I'M WATCHING NO TOMFOOLERY THIS TIME!

Because I played Acting Lessons so I prefer to separate the tastes

 

[felicemastronzo]

In my language are not synonyms, but to be intrigued means you are interested.
Anyway, why? You think she should had shoot him down couse he had no chance. The problem is that is quite obvious he had. So again, really?

you are defending the indefensible...

at that moment Maya is definitely not romantically interested in MC. MC tells her that he is interested in her instead because she after telling him she had a boyfriend, explained to him that it's a lie she uses to be left alone

so MC thinks she's free, which isn't true, but Maya decides to continue to make him believe it, which is bad behavior, not electric chair bad, but bad behavior.

She won't tell him she's a lesbian? Okay.
She won't tell him she's in a relationship? Okay.
But she has to tell him something. She'd rather tell him that she's interested in him, too.

She can't tell him because she doesn't know, still in chapter six she has doubts about whether she really likes a man.

 

[Hermith]

This line of yours sounds like Maya is a slut. So, if Quinn really agreed to pay tuition fee or paid it for Maya as in comforting her and asks Her to become a part of restaurant, she will do it happily with a big smile. What you said, was satisfied in this case, Quinn comforted her and Maya did "pretty much anything" for her.

I know that this is not at all what you are trying to say, But look at the misunderstanding it caused, by this you are just insulting Maya's fans....*me included*

Now the main reason why I wrote the Quinn thing was that Maya had her tongue pierced only because of Josy who she loved deeply. She doesn't like Quinn so no, she won't do something like that for Quinn. She won't do anything for MC like that, unless she trusts him. You should express your views here, after all it's a discussion platform but you need to be careful about the words you use.

Maybe I worded that wrong (english isn't my mother tongue), but I also like Maya and that doesn't mean I can't notice that she is emotionally vulnerable. Quinn is not a good example because she didn't even try to hide the fact she wanted to see Maya suffer. Maya despised Quinn so of course she wouldn't do literally anything just for the promised tuition. The mc on the other hand is a way better example, they knew each other for a day or two and Maya already started to feel the attraction to him. At this point we can't say that it's physical attraction as she was attracted to someone who appeared nice without apparent ulterior motives.

Maya is one of my favorite girls in the game, but just like the others she has character flaws. These flaws make their routes unique and interesting.

 

[Machete]

A man can dream. Hopefully, you're right tho.

And by the way nothing will ever piss me off as much as Cyberpunk 2077 ending. Any of them.

 

[LoDoN-]

And by the way nothing will ever piss me off as much as Cyberpunk 2077 ending. Any of them.

Didn't see, I started watching a streamer I like playing it, then decided to play it for myself, but to get some good graphics I would need to change my processor, and to change my processor I would need to change everything else, so CP2077 is on my holding list. Tho I don't mind spoilers really if the ending is that shitty I wouldn't want to play it. It can't be worse than GoT ending or HIMYM ending right?

 

[Laport Deminis]

you are defending the indefensible...

at that moment Maya is definitely not romantically interested in MC. MC tells her that he is interested in her instead because she after telling him she had a boyfriend, explained to him that it's a lie she uses to be left alone

so MC thinks she's free, which isn't true, but Maya decides to continue to make him believe it, which is bad behavior, not electric chair bad, but bad behavior.

She won't tell him she's a lesbian? Okay.
She won't tell him she's in a relationship? Okay.
But she has to tell him something. She'd rather tell him that she's interested in him, too.

She can't tell him because she doesn't know, still in chapter six she has doubts about whether she really likes a man.

Oh, indefensible? I dont know this is a whole new world for me.
She is intrigued but not interested. Still dont get the difference.
And if you are intrigued you had to reject someone who is interested. Not couse you have a girlfriend, seems thats ok. But because you are only intrigued. Why? Still not an answer but i guess is because that guy dont believe something could happen. Even if everyhintg happens
Also a comitted lesbians who are in sexual relationship with males.
This is too much, i am too young to be old school.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Oh, indefensible? I dont know this is a whole new world for me.
She is intrigued but not interested. Still dont get the difference.
And if you are intrigued you had to reject someone who is interested. Not couse you have a girlfriend, seems thats ok. But because you are only intrigued. Why? Still not an answer but i guess is because that guy dont believe something could happen. Even if everyhintg happens
Also a comitted lesbians who are in sexual relationship with males.
This is too much, i am too young to be old school.

to explain it again I would have to repeat what has already been said...

don't you think a "not free" girl should dissuade a guy who declares interest in her?
don't you think a lesbian girl should avoid deluding a guy who declares interest in her?

What really escapes me is that these are all things that Maya later apologizes for, while for you she has done nothing wrong, ever...

 

[Hermith]

Also a comitted lesbians who are in sexual relationship with males.
This is too much, i am too young to be old school.

I'm not even sure if she was a lesbian to begin with. It doesn't really make sense if lesbian girls are with other girls just because they didn't meet trustworthy, good guys. At most she is bisexual whos first love happened to be a girl. I guess most guys she knew were somewhat similar to Derek and in my opinion that's borderline enough to turn a girl lesbian.

 

[Laport Deminis]

I'm not even sure if she was a lesbian to begin with. It doesn't really make sense if lesbian girls are with other girls just because they didn't meet trustworthy, good guys. At most she is bisexual whos first love happened to be a girl. I guess most guys she knew were somewhat similar to Derek and in my opinion that's borderline enough to turn a girl lesbian.

Good, now explain that to felice and leave me out of this.

 

[Machete]

Didn't see, I started watching a streamer I like playing it, then decided to play it for myself, but to get some good graphics I would need to change my processor, and to change my processor I would need to change everything else, so CP2077 is on my holding list. Tho I don't mind spoilers really if the ending is that shitty I wouldn't want to play it. It can't be worse than GoT ending or HIMYM ending right?

It's pretty bad and unnecessary. Until there the story is quite rich and good. There are 4 possible endings with one element in common that kinda spoil all of them.
I don't know Himym. GoT ending could even work, as a list of things that go into their places, it's mostly the execution that suck terminally. I would say CP2077 is the exact opposite.