VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ename144]

That's an extremely poor explanation, I´m afraid. I know most of the people here are fans of this game. I´m too (well, mostly... I´m playing right now the "CHIK" path with Jill and it´s cheesy as fuck. That scene of the picnic and the horses... ) but I think we shouldn´t always be so eager to justify the writer.

Mona doesn´t take the phone, so Sage doesn´t even care any more about her... She could, at least, talk with the HOTs that were close with her, try to understand why she left so suddenly after being accepted in the sorority, even try to talk with her family... But it´s all about Maya. Because it has to be, for plot purposes, even if it doesn´t make any sense. That part is extremely poorly written. It would only have some sense if the MC is not at all into Sage's path.

Just because we don't see it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Sage's interaction with Maya started because she saw Maya in the library and went to talk to her. That isn't possible with Mona because she left campus. Whatever efforts Sage has been making to reach out to Mona (or the other HOTs about Mona) are a lot less likely to be caught by the camera.

I do agree Sage Should be making those efforts, and it would have been good for her to ask Maya or Josy about Mona during their scenes just to illustrate that point. That said, there are also times when good writing requires sacrificing realism to keep the narrative focused. If Mona is not meant to be a major part of the story, we shouldn't keep talking about her (since that gives the false impression that she is important), even if it would make logical sense.

I'm not saying DPC has the perfect balance by any means, but it's not that far off. Mona has been mentioned a few times to make it clear her part in the story isn't forgotten without making a major deal of it. If we see evidence in Episode 8 that Sage has been trying to contact her (and/or talk to Cammy about her), I think all will be well.

Why Sage would be so eager to get involved into the life of the ex-lover of his lover? (again, Sage knows that the MC had a story with Maya if the MC goes to live with her after leaving Maya's room) Just because Maya leaving make the HOTs look bad? Poorly written.

It´s like the MC being suddenly best friend of Chad and helping him with his problems, in spite of the harm that did to Sage. Even if the writer forces the MC to forgive Maya and they have to be friends (something that, equally, is really poorly written. The fucking MC has to be a saint or something, forgiving so easily humiliations and lies from women he has been in love?), it´s really weird that the new romantic interest of the MC is so eager to trust, befriend and help the MC´s old romantic interest. The most I think about that scene of Sage being so nice and caring about Maya, someone that barely knows and has reasons to not to be so fond about, the worst it looks to me. Sage is also a saint, suddenly? And she knows how to get thousands of dollars for the tuition of students? Why she doesn´t help first Riona, Camila, or even the MC? The MC is going to have to get into debt to pay his own tuition... but Maya, the drama queen, is more important for Sage? Again, only makes (kind of) sense if the MC and Sage have cero relationship, like a "massive CHIK" gameplay.

As was pointed out, Maya is a big deal for Sage because she asked Sage for help and Sage ignored her. That's obviously going to weigh on Sage's mind after Maya storms off disgusted with the HOTs. Combine that with the fact Maya is here and Mona isn't and Sage's actions make plenty of sense to me.

Besides, just because she's offering to befriend Maya doesn't necessarily mean she's helping a romantic rival steal the MC. Until Maya's reveal at the end of Episode 7 (and possibly not even then, depending on what Maya told her), why would Sage assume clearing up Maya's anger with the HOTs would have any effect on her relationship with the MC?

All she knows at first is that Maya feels she was badly treated by the HOTs, and Sage was trying to get to the bottom of what happened. Once she learns the truth, I don't think she needs to be a "saint" to want to help a HOT sister out of a jam just because the two are interested in the same guy. It's not like either of them are his girlfriend yet, and we don't yet know just how much helping Maya will "cost" Sage. (And technically if Maya told Sage about Josy but not the throuple, it's even possible Sage thinks this will remove Maya as a rival for the MC's affections!)

To me, the situation with Sage is far better handled than the resolution to the Maya/Josy crisis back in Episode 4.

 

[always86]

You forgot John Boy, he told rusty was fucking someone probably since he heard moaning noises coming from his room.

I'll add that to the list (in my head)

But exactly that does not devastate room of Nick exonerates him. Why would Vinny give the DIK's a reason to distrust Nick. That is so illogical.

On the other hand, Tommy is more than suspicious of Rusty's Cathy announcement. Do you know the saying, that a hit dog barks? Tommy attacks by threatening everyone involved. Attack is the best oath.

It is the same with Dawe. He also gets some pictures of Arieth getting fucked by the DIK's. Present yourself as a victim and you won't be suspected.

Guys this is standard in almost every crime story.

There is a reason Nick's room goes untouched, it's either because he is involved, because he is being set-up, or because whoever did it likes him. The Alpha's could be setting him up. Seems a little to smart for them. Vinny on the other hand could either be working with him or not wanting to trash his friends room. Either way the house getting trashed and the Cathy cluck aren't necessarily connected. One could be Alpha's the other could be Vinny. Or Vinny and Quinn or Quinn and the Alpha's.

The problem with Dawes is yes he has a motive, but does he have the means or oppurtunity? I don't think so. Not only is he not smart enough to think a plan as subtle as this, it also doesnt explain why the safe is exposed. A) he wouldnt know where the safe is and B) If he just wants revenge then the cluck is a far better, less risky way of getting it than robbing them.

We know on the other hand that Quinn needs money. We know she has means, motive and oppurtunity. Tommy could have done it in a fit of rage, but why? It doesn't hurt Quinn. Yes maybe it get's him the role of president, but what how does that help him? Without Rusty and his money what good is the fraternity to Tommy. We already know he isn't willing to put the effort in (at this stage).

There

 

[`Ray`]

and I'm on the Ignore list of someone, why ?I didn't do anything wrong

...Really ! You are trying to steal my innocent pure girl and say that you didn't do anything wrong?! Shameless bastard...

JK You are a cool guy...But if I see you approaching my girl then I will fucking shoot you, got it?!

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And it's really weird to know that this many people here want Mona to come back, they want justice for her. The way people are standing up for her...not talking about the dick but the support...I wonder if they will do the same if something were to happen to Madame and Areith

 

[dalli_x]

Just because we don't see it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Sage's interaction with Maya started because she saw Maya in the library and went to talk to her. That isn't possible with Mona because she left campus. Whatever efforts Sage has been making to reach out to Mona (or the other HOTs about Mona) are a lot less likely to be caught by the camera.

I do agree Sage Should be making those efforts, and it would have been good for her to ask Maya or Josy about Mona during their scenes just to illustrate that point. That said, there are also times when good writing requires sacrificing realism to keep the narrative focused. If Mona is not meant to be a major part of the story, we shouldn't keep talking about her (since that gives the false impression that she is important), even if it would make logical sense.

I'm not saying DPC has the perfect balance by any means, but it's not that far off. Mona has been mentioned a few times to make it clear her part in the story isn't forgotten without making a major deal of it. If we see evidence in Episode 8 that Sage has been trying to contact her (and/or talk to Cammy about her), I think all will be well.


As was pointed out, Maya is a big deal for Sage because she asked Sage for help and Sage ignored her. That's obviously going to weigh on Sage's mind after Maya storms off disgusted with the HOTs. Combine that with the fact Maya is here and Mona isn't and Sage's actions make plenty of sense to me.

Besides, just because she's offering to befriend Maya doesn't necessarily mean she's helping a romantic rival steal the MC. Until Maya's reveal at the end of Episode 7 (and possibly not even then, depending on what Maya told her), why would Sage assume clearing up Maya's anger with the HOTs would have any effect on her relationship with the MC?

All she knows at first is that Maya feels she was badly treated by the HOTs, and Sage was trying to get to the bottom of what happened. Once she learns the truth, I don't think she needs to be a "saint" to want to help a HOT sister out of a jam just because the two are interested in the same guy. It's not like either of them are his girlfriend yet, and we don't yet know just how much helping Maya will "cost" Sage. (And technically if Maya told Sage about Josy but not the throuple, it's even possible Sage thinks this will remove Maya as a rival for the MC's affections!)

To me, the situation with Sage is far better handled than the resolution to the Maya/Josy crisis back in Episode 4.

I agree with you on almost everything except the EP4 thing. I think DPC wanted the story in EP4 to be exactly as it is. The MC decides if it's romantic or not. Nothing more, nothing less. If the MC goes on romantic, he should also behave so and not fuck everything that does not sit at 5 on the tree.

 

[dalli_x]

I'll add that to the list (in my head)



There is a reason Nick's room goes untouched, it's either because he is involved, because he is being set-up, or because whoever did it likes him. The Alpha's could be setting him up. Seems a little to smart for them. Vinny on the other hand could either be working with him or not wanting to trash his friends room. Either way the house getting trashed and the Cathy cluck aren't necessarily connected. One could be Alpha's the other could be Vinny. Or Vinny and Quinn or Quinn and the Alpha's.

The problem with Dawes is yes he has a motive, but does he have the means or oppurtunity? I don't think so. Not only is he not smart enough to think a plan as subtle as this, it also doesnt explain why the safe is exposed. A) he wouldnt know where the safe is and B) If he just wants revenge then the cluck is a far better, less risky way of getting it than robbing them.

We know on the other hand that Quinn needs money. We know she has means, motive and oppurtunity. Tommy could have done it in a fit of rage, but why? It doesn't hurt Quinn. Yes maybe it get's him the role of president, but what how does that help him? Without Rusty and his money what good is the fraternity to Tommy. We already know he isn't willing to put the effort in (at this stage).

There

Nick's room was not vandalized because of this, to cast suspicion on Nick.

Dawe is too stupid to come up with such a plan, I agree. That's why he's working with Quinn.

Tommy and Quinn aren't about the money in the safe. Quinn creates the Cathy Cluck plan to get the Alpha's out of the line of fire so she can go back to selling sugar pills to the Jocks. Tommy is more or less blackmailed by Quinn into bringing Josy along.

 

[Kellermann]

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And it's really weird to know that this many people here want Mona to come back, they want justice for her. The way people are standing up for her...not talking about the dick but the support...I wonder if they will do the same if something were to happen to Madame and Areith

Madame, that feral pig, can fuck right off. I have standards.

My lovely Arieth on the other hand, I won't allow her departure. Haven't we lost enough gingers already DPC you heartless man!

 

[Marley300]

And it's really weird to know that this many people here want Mona to come back, they want justice for her. The way people are standing up for her...not talking about the dick but the support...I wonder if they will do the same if something were to happen to Madame and Areith

Yeah... Honestly, I don't think so

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And even though Mona was never really my favourites (Sage is the best redhead and KRJ is second ) her threesome scene in the bathroom stall was nice
If she doesn't come back, Let’s at least have a Mona solo scene in that nursing home (if she's really there...) for her die-hard fans !

 

[wizardcock]

Hi, made a video on the game. My first experience, it may have turned out unusual. In any case, happy to share and interesting to know the feelings

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[Hielo]

it's not as funny as making her Vomit

Can someone tell me what happen when u make her puke ?

 

[boy2636]

Probably one of the best games, the characters are very beautiful, but the most beloved character is Isabella. Tell me guys, the latest news and when will there be an update ???

 

[Hielo]

After all she snitched to Riona & Melanie that the MC likes foreplay and cumed inside her

wow I missed so much content how did u do this its when u fuck her or whenn u did something in particular and u see her talking ?

 

[AchedCroissant]

I have standards.

Arieth

gingers

Well for starters, Arieth isn't even a redhead

It's like saying I like grannies and putting Quinn in that category because she has white hair when she wants to hide her blonde hair.

 

[shazba]

Narratively, the only thing that Mona's sacrifice means is that it showed us Burke's excel file with the "free tuition".

We don't even know if she left and that's why Burke cancelled the tuition, or the opposite if she left since the free tuition was withdrawn.

It doesn't seem like much to me to consider it a closed chapter.

She left because of not availing free tuition and, Quinn blackmailing and pressuring her that Burke will do something bad to her.

She didn't need the free tuition in the first place, so I doubt she left because the free tuition she didn't need in the first place was no longer an option for her.

Burke cancelled the tuition because she left.

Mona was already a college student before Quinn spoke to her about the free tuition and she signed up to it. That means she already had a means to pay, the free tuition was just a bonus:

Mona: "Free tuition? Sign me up."​

Mona: "I'm not passing on that offer."​

So losing the free tuition (because she wouldn't have sex with Burke and realised she'd made a mistake) wouldn't mean she'd have to leave the college.

Of course, getting involved in a prostitution ring, finding out the teachers/higher college authorities are involved in it, changing your mind (on being involved), and then being threatened by the vice president of your sorority: These may be enough reasons to make Mona want to leave and not look back!

MC has little to do with it, in the end Mona is just another girl to him.

It's impressive how quickly Camilla forgets her, abandoning her to her destiny as soon as she becomes HOT.

for the other girls of the restaurant, in the end, whatever the reason, Mona's disappearance takes away a problem, but with Camilla they were inseparable

and in the same way I expect Sage, her mother, at some point to at least ask herself the question

for me it's not a problem of good or bad writing, but of lack of empathy, characters often act in a completely anaffective, psychotic, unexplainable way (like MC with the story of the reboung guy) and this worsens the gaming experience

Camila tries to contact Mona:

Camila: "She hasn't returned my calls or texts."​

Camila: "I just wanna know that she'll be ok."​

We don't need multiple scenes showing us how sad she is that Mona's gone.

Sage could look into chasing after Mona, but how many scenes of, "Hmm, she's not returning calls or texts" do we need to realise nothing can be done right now.

I don't know who, outside the "restaurant staff" (and anyone Quinn believes will make use of her services) knows exactly what Quinn's up to with her prostitution ring. When Sage starts asking after Mona, who's gonna volunteer her the truth? Unless Sage already knows about it, they're all fucked once she finds out. If this wasn't a porn game, they'd all be kicked out of the sorority (including Quinn) if Sage ever finds out, but given it's a porn game, and sex is what it's all about, who knows how Sage will deal with it.

How is that a matter of ambiguity? She cleary an Asian.

We've seen Jill's mom, she didn't look Asian to me, and judging by her surname (from her father), "Royce", he doesn't sound Asian either.

Jill just looks weird from time-to-time.

 

[TimHawk]

Nick's room was not vandalized because of this, to cast suspicion on Nick.

Dawe is too stupid to come up with such a plan, I agree. That's why he's working with Quinn.

Tommy and Quinn aren't about the money in the safe. Quinn creates the Cathy Cluck plan to get the Alpha's out of the line of fire so she can go back to selling sugar pills to the Jocks. Tommy is more or less blackmailed by Quinn into bringing Josy along.

We've been to that dance before ... But you theory that Vinnie is not behind all of it where we dont know the culprit ( blackmail of chad, pic of cathy, attack and robbery of Quinn, knowledge of DIk laptop, Vinnies room, the inside working of the DIK's ) really depends on all of it not beeing connected whatsoever, because there is only 1 person where all of it fits. And yea maybe DPC tries to misslead us, but that is true for everything.

I had my doubts too, but when Quinn got jumped, it all just came together and made perfect sense.

 

[Chutoro]

I've just discovered this game, was living under a rock or something. MC has a really colorful college experience. I went to a college as well but I guess I was stuck with minigames through the years.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Sage could look into chasing after Mona, but how many scenes of, "Hmm, she's not returning calls or texts" do we need to realise nothing can be done right now.

One is enough, but there has to be

The fact that Camilla searched for her has nothing to do with why Sage would search for her. Sage is not even present in that scene....

When Quinn doesn't answer Tommy in chapter 5, Camilla advises MC to be the one to call her, then Quinn won't answer him either.
it's not like the fact that she didn't answer Tommy was enough for anyone to never try to call Quinn again.

 

[always86]

Nick's room was not vandalized because of this, to cast suspicion on Nick.

Dawe is too stupid to come up with such a plan, I agree. That's why he's working with Quinn.

Tommy and Quinn aren't about the money in the safe. Quinn creates the Cathy Cluck plan to get the Alpha's out of the line of fire so she can go back to selling sugar pills to the Jocks. Tommy is more or less blackmailed by Quinn into bringing Josy along.

Not sure what you mean by Blackmailed. Tommy has no influence over whether Josy is there. Quinn does it because she likes to get a reaction out of people.

Why would the safe be notably uncovered if it isn't part of what happened with the Cluck. When you point it out, Rusty says something along the lines of "Oh, That shouldnt be showing, i'll take care of it." Quinn and the Alpha's is an interesting theory, but i'd need a bit more evidence to buy in to it.

I agree, IMO Nick is being set up, he is being made to appear as though he is involved at least in the eyes of the players.

 

[Marley300]

Madame, that feral pig, can fuck right off. I have standards.

My lovely Arieth on the other hand, I won't allow her departure. Haven't we lost enough gingers already DPC you heartless man!

Arieth leaving !?!? Hell no ! I'll never fuck her personally, but DPC would be mad if he removes his comedic relief character ! She crack me up every time

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[Kellermann]

Well for starters, Arieth isn't even a redhead

It's like saying I like grannies and putting Quinn in that category because she has white hair when she wants to hide her blonde hair.

She is a strong, independent, highly intelligent, all natural ging. I won't have you disrespect a good woman like that.

 

[Crusader of Romance]

I wish you could break things off with Sage early. She's your fuck buddy but the game treats it like you're dating. When I started dating Jill I decided to stop sleeping with Sage but you can't. There's a sex scene forced on you in Episode 5, make out in Episode 6 and in Episode 7 you start to talk about feelings with her all while I'm screaming at the screen because I just want to break it off. And the MC keeps complaining about playing with their feelings. With all the other characters you have a choice before doing anything with them and they all have moments where you decide to take it further or not before things get serious but not with Sage who was suppose to be casual sex but suddenly becomes more without you having anything to say about it.

Sorry for the ranting, I'm playing my Jill playthrough and I'm just super annoyed right now. It's a common problem with these games (like College Kings) but I still love this game.