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SpearOfReigns

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What if Tybalt picked "dinner at fancy restaurant" for third and final date and that preview is Bella and Ass Man trying to ruin Tybalt's plan. Later that night the blackmail arc is concluded (my guess is similar with popular opinion here, which is counter blackmail) and after that MC must choose whether to take Bella home for some pussy rust removal or to bring Jill to the DIK mansion for some good ol fashioned deflowering and that choice will forever close one of their route, in true spirit of the episode's title: Crossroads.

Surely DPC can't be that cruel right? :KEK:
 

felicemastronzo

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I BAD we already have noticed that the point system is mostly not used but it's just a little action like the panty in the glovebox or maybe the dick pic in the phone that trigger a path ending.
So DPC has setup a bunch of traps of that kind which seem funny or not relevant but which will prevail on any choices you could have done.
our choices, even the seemingly risky ones (having sex on the roof with Quinn, frolicking with Josy in the garden of HOTs....), count for little or nothing

the choices that DPC decides are important become so at any cost (Cathe who, in order to give a blowjob, feels the need to take off her panties, Tybatl or whoever, who, in order to make a presentation, inserts all the photos he has in his cell phone...)

no control means no responsibility


What if Tybalt picked "dinner at fancy restaurant" for third and final date and that preview is Bella and Ass Man trying to ruin Tybalt's plan. Later that night the blackmail arc is concluded (my guess is similar with popular opinion here, which is counter blackmail) and after that MC must choose whether to take Bella home for some pussy rust removal or to bring Jill to the DIK mansion for some good ol fashioned deflowering and that choice will forever close one of their route, in true spirit of the episode's title: Crossroads.

Surely DPC can't be that cruel right? :KEK:
a cruelty agirable with 2 saves.... and in the end if there is a polyamorous relationship to avoid is just Bella + Jill
 

PashafromRussia

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Sure, but that's what makes it a mediocre game. The fact that anything COULD happen doesn't justify any random thing that happens. Real life may be a chaotic mess, but the art of storytelling is to pull order out of that chaos. That's the difference between telling a story and just relating a bunch of things that happened. AL did the latter, IMHO.

I've defended the way Bella's path ends if she finds Cathy's panties, because while that particular outcome was unexpected, to me it's logical that Bella would see that particular act as indicative of the MC not taking her relationship seriously. I'd be a lot less tolerant if Bella called it off because she learned the MC offered to help Maya... much less if KRJ just killed Bella because Quinn's off-brand drugs gave her a bad trip.

Besides, it's still a bait and switch. AL wasn't portrayed as a game about how our choices are inconsequential in the face of an uncaring random universe, yet that's largely what it becomes. The focus of the final quarter of the game isn't on the MC putting his life back together, it's wallowing in how miserable his life is in the wake of the infamous fire. Any healing is secondary and out of our control.

Frankly, I think it's rather shameless the way AL uses the death of Meghan/Melissa as a crutch to cover for the barebones conclusion. If it worked for you, that's fine. But it definitely did not work for me, even as a deliberately bittersweet ending.
Such tragic endings like murder or burning down a house are more typical for anime than for a serious work. In anime, heroines often kill their lovers. But this happens because emotions are constantly hypertrophied in anime, turning stylization into kitsch. For me, the cause is important, not the effect. The reason for the act is that the heroine is a psychopath, it seems unconvincing to me. And a bad ending for the sake of a bad ending.
 

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No matter what happens in the game if she ends with the mc or not, she deserves to be happy.
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I think if Riona comes to her senses and leaves Hots, she will have a happy future. DPC brings Riona and MC together. With each episode we learn more about her. First MС will help her with the stalker, then he will be her personal teacher for math lessons and she will be able to move on without control from Quinn.
Although I hope that there may be a hidden dik ending where MС will stay with the girls from Hots if he fails with her main love interests. And will have a personal harem.
 

EfontMan

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And will have a personal harem.
I'm pretty sure that's wishful thinking. Even if DPC steers clear of contrived drama barbecue-style, I doubt he's going for that kind of thing. Having a relationship with Josy/Maya actually work out is probably as good as it's going to get in that regard.

That said, it would be nice to have some endings that account for the side characters, even if they aren't particularly fleshed out.
 

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Sure, but that's what makes it a mediocre game. The fact that anything COULD happen doesn't justify any random thing that happens. Real life may be a chaotic mess, but the art of storytelling is to pull order out of that chaos. That's the difference between telling a story and just relating a bunch of things that happened. AL did the latter, IMHO.

I've defended the way Bella's path ends if she finds Cathy's panties, because while that particular outcome was unexpected, to me it's logical that Bella would see that particular act as indicative of the MC not taking her relationship seriously. I'd be a lot less tolerant if Bella called it off because she learned the MC offered to help Maya... much less if KRJ just killed Bella because Quinn's off-brand drugs gave her a bad trip.

Besides, it's still a bait and switch. AL wasn't portrayed as a game about how our choices are inconsequential in the face of an uncaring random universe, yet that's largely what it becomes. The focus of the final quarter of the game isn't on the MC putting his life back together, it's wallowing in how miserable his life is in the wake of the infamous fire. Any healing is secondary and out of our control.

Frankly, I think it's rather shameless the way AL uses the death of Meghan/Melissa as a crutch to cover for the barebones conclusion. If it worked for you, that's fine. But it definitely did not work for me, even as a deliberately bittersweet ending.
It seems the more a game or show shocks, the greater the critical acclaim. AL's scene was shocking to anyone who didn't see it coming and it had the intended effect, it's still heralded by many to be the greatest AVN ever.

Like "The Usual Suspects", "Sixth Sense", "Fight Club" and so on, if you didn't see the twist, it blew you away. Luna's backstory in The Deluca Family is the only reason that game stands out in my mind (although that wasn't a twist, but it was truly harrowing).

I still maintain that there were clues to AL's antagonist's personality very early on, although I didn't expect such an outcome and had pretty much forgotten about them when it all went down.

The sad thing for me when playing AL was that I focused only on one LI (Meaghan) for the first (and only) play through, so when the ultimate choice came, I literally didn't have a choice, there was only one name specified for me to click on, so I was robbed of that gut wrenching decision, and any subsequent playthroughs wouldn't have resulted in the same impact since I would have known what was coming.

I'm sure the game would have had a much bigger impact on me if I was given that dreadful choice, but in the end I didn't like it for pretty much the same reasons as ename144 states above, and the mc's behaviour was even more ridiculous given the girl who died wasn't even an active love interest in my play through. I also found the ~20 year age gap too creepy for my liking.

The ultimate fallout from AL is that heaps of people are bracing themselves for some equally gruelling experience to occur in BaDIK, but such a future event has already lost its impact due to everyone's expectations. DPC would be a fool if he repeated a similar veined predicament as it most definitely would not be received well by anyone.
 

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Anyone else crashing when in the start of episode 7 where Josy asks 'Where do I go?' Any work arounds?
It's not a crash, it's a deliberate exit. The game knows you cheated. If it detects that you cheated, it exits at that point without telling you why. Go ahead and install the mod for the game to get past that point, or start over from the beginning and play pure.

Do any of you happen to have a folder with wallpapers from the game?
A few in fact. Main game images, posted previews and teasers, and fan art.
 
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I hope you didn't had a panty issue with Bella my friend :ROFLMAO:
And fo those who found funny to put a dick pic in Tybalt phone it could be the same for Jill!:(

I guess Bella will be a freak, she already said that she doubt you could handle her.
So when she will show up with a huge strapon and an evil grin, either you will jump through the window or you will beg for lube!

And about Jill she will be the perfect wife in the future when the MC will be sick and tired to play with little girls, so no rush.

But for the moment i will definitely go for Quinn, the most interesting character.
In the future, while on the Quinn path, MC will ask Quinn to go out on a date. It will totally break her bully mindset. She will go all mushy, and see a future with MC, a house with a picket fence, 2 kids, a dog, and.... a meth lab out back. What a girl. :ROFLMAO:
 

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It's funny, I always thought Cathy would be the dominatrix with the bad dragon strapon, but now I think you may be on to something and Bella could be the one.
To be fair there are multiple things that hint to this.
Her facial expression that is always grumpy and dominant.
There's that room in her house that's locked and is probably full of chains, whips and zip-ties.
Also back in episode 2 or 3 (I don't exactly remember) there was a scene with sexual tension between the MC and Bella. At that point MC had a line of "thoughts" that said something to the extent of "if I knew back then what I know now I would have probably ran away". That line always stuck with me even as I was fooling around with Bella on some occasions, just because there wasn't a "prophetic" line like that before and none after that, so it was probably important.
So she's either a psychotic serial killer or has other very undesireable qualities.
I was almost relieved when the panty incident happened because while it was really out of the blue with no warning and therefore I would consider it kind of bad writing, I could finally stop thinking about it.
 

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The sad thing for me when playing AL was that I focused only on one LI (Meaghan) for the first (and only) play through, so when the ultimate choice came, I literally didn't have a choice, there was only one name specified for me to click on, so I was robbed of that gut wrenching decision, and any subsequent playthroughs wouldn't have resulted in the same impact since I would have known what was coming.

I'm sure the game would have had a much bigger impact on me if I was given that dreadful choice, but in the end I didn't like it for pretty much the same reasons as ename144 states above, and the mc's behaviour was even more ridiculous given the girl who died wasn't even an active love interest in my play through. I also found the ~20 year age gap too creepy for my liking.
I don't really understand the distinction... in the end the difference is only the age of the protagonist, because moments in which we are forced to moments of mental confusion, completely independent from our direct and indirect choices are not lacking even in BADIK (a boy who has always been bullied and thinks about dropping out of school because his roommate doesn't give him a cuddle, then he runs away in the middle of the night when faced with sentimental difficulties, suddenly he realizes that it's not okay for him to be fuckbuddy... etc etc)

you're right, definitely, it's alienating the whole post-fire AL part if you didn't care about the one left to burn, but I don't think the fourth chapter of BADIK for those not interested in Maya and Josy was all that much better an experience, all that much more engaging...

the big move, the big change in DPC is simply having rejuvenated the MC so that any excess is justified anyway?

The ultimate fallout from AL is that heaps of people are bracing themselves for some equally gruelling experience to occur in BaDIK, but such a future event has already lost its impact due to everyone's expectations. DPC would be a fool if he repeated a similar veined predicament as it most definitely would not be received well by anyone.
this is what we all hope, but on Quinn, Riona (but also Bella and in part the trouple) the omens are not very happy, that cocaine will end up somewhere

and DPC with these fan expectations plays a lot with it, I don't think the axe in Bella's garage is random....
 
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