VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[mightybored]

Any Easter egg with AL involved would only make my back run cold and my skin crawl with goose bumps.

Bella: "One of my Omega Mu Gamma sisters..."
MC: "OMG"
Bella: "One of my sisters was in the nursing program. She taught me how to stitch up wounds."
Jill: "She seems nice."
Bella: "...only when she wanted something in exchange."

 

[varage]

I have a worry Maya and josy dont have a you tell them scene at end right? Because when i chose maya/josy route at end screen it said i didn't choose anyone. at the recap page it says you decided non of the girls were right for you.-im assuming thats meaning non of the new girls sense you met josy and maya before your midsimester crisis and were already kinda in a relationship with no strings?

 

[shazba]

As I wrote previously, I think TheWayWeAllGo has a reason on his remarks. It's not that BaD lacks "forced" NTR scenes, personally I don't give a fuck about NTR, if there isn't any I'm fine, if there is (and it's there for a reason, well implemented in the plot) I'm fine too if the narration is good and solid. BaD lacks real competitors for MC, that's a fact. You control a character that has no antagonists, no real ones competing for the same girls. MC gives the pussy to others: Derek, Jacob, JamJam. I find this scenario less stimulating, not because I want to see scenes where those girls are banged by others (but if there were, I won't cry, it's fiction) but because I do not perceive any other male that can steal those girls if I make the wrong moves. The girls can reject MC if I make very very wrong moves, that's all. Is that enough?

Who are the antagonists? Maya for Josy, Tybalt for Jill, a ghost for Bella, a gay for Sage. It's like playing a war game where you are the USSR and you have to fight against Malta, would it be really stimulating for a player? Maybe DPC has planned more surprises in future updates, but I don't think so, because being stolen of a girl, even in a fictional world, seems to deadly upset many adult players.
But I'm certain DPC would have the skills and ideas to implement a credible male antagonist if he only wanted, and in a clever way, differently from those crappy NTR games I've played. He simply can't afford to lose money. That's a big creative limitation porn VN developers have to face if they want to achieve big numbers.

Well if you want success, you have to deal with what the masses want...

And in a love/porn fantasy, most dont want competition.

And i have to admit... iam like that too.

I love a good lovestory growing in this kind of VNs. And i makes me feel uncomfortable to see the desired girl maybe growing closer to another male.

But i enjoy it very much if its a struggle to win a girl over and the MC is not just winning the girl over imediatly just for being there... in this departmend, yeah being a dik feels just that the girls are throwing themself into the arms of the MC imediatly, and that is something i dont like in most of the game... the overall "magic dick" guy that scores all the girl without even saying something...

In being a dik this bothers me not that much cause everything else is just really a nice trip, AND its clear from the start that you just cant get every girl, and to me it was clear from the start that in the end you have to choose one girl, or be without love. So this works for me...

Those Harem games where you just end up with every girl no matter what are really boring, and dont give me anything.

A relationship has to grow for me in some way, and yeah needs some bumps in the road too. The balance is what makes it good...

Being a dik is a good in that department, far away from perfect, but good enough overall...

But yeah the competition in this game are just other temptations you have to fight of to get the girl you want for a love-route...

And wouldnt there be so much other interesting things going on in the game, i have to admit, just for the realtionships the game would get boring at some point i think...

But its kind of a masterpiece of work that DPC is capable to pull off that nothing is certain for the relationships, even without male competition. Cause with all the things going on you cant really be sure that everything will work out just fine all the time. *edit* i mean just see at Acting Lessons... no male competetion, but we all know hoiw that went in the end...

I hope he can deliver at this level for season 3 too... and i hope its not just zoey forced drama that makes the realtionships struggle, that would be annoying.

But i get your point why you wish for some real competition, i prefer it another way...

Overall i think youre right that its a sacrifice DPC has to make to get enough money in, if there would be real competition or even NTR, this game wouldnt be such a success, not even close.

It doesn't have to be a competition, i don't find that necessary at all also Tommy is pretty much the most based DIK, the man is screwing women around having an actual girlfriend and who knows how many women he banged before, no one can compete with him lol.

I'd have no interest in competing for a girl.

In life you hook-up with a girl for fun, or something serious, but it needs to be on equal footing, not one party jumping through hoops to satisfy the other so they can "win" them. That is a sure fire set up for an unbalanced relationship.

I would never compete for a girls attention or love. If a girl expected me and another guy to compete for her interest, the other guy can fucking have her, he'll be jumping through hoops for the rest of the relationship.

Do not give a girl that kind of power over you. Nor should a girl give a guy that kind of power.

Be yourself and find someone compatible, because it's easier to be yourself for the duration of a relationship than it is to behave in a way contrary to who you are just so you can "have the girl". What you will have, is a fucking headache.

All that said, this game does not need competition for the love interests. Tybalt was never competition, he was just a fucking idiot that Jill never wanted to date and now she pretty much doesn't want to even look at him.

The conflicts in this game have nothing to do with other guys stealing the mc's girl(s). It's all about other random dramas. That's pretty much the same as life.

 

[varage]

Seeing Issabella's face when you cancel the date with her

 

[Tadpol]

Having a few lines of dialogues alluding to that doesn't mean it's actually implemented in the code logic. There is no official Maya or Josy route yet.

Absolutely. In addition in episode 8, there is nothing going on between the MC and one of the two girls.

In the other episodes, after choosing to remain friends, you could still spend time with one of the two, have interactions (for example in episode 7 you kiss Maya on the cheek in a more than friendly way).

In episode 8, absolutely nothing like this happens between the MC and either of the two.

In the breakfast scene where the MC is supposed to choose a girl, I didn't even have to choose, I had 0 options, 0 girls. (Not even a HOT or a Pink Rose the MC fucked.)

Either DPC forgot to put a reference to a solo route with Maya or Josy in the breakfast scene, or it is not an error and therefore it seems to indicate that there is no planned solo route with Maya or Josy.

 

[list101]

Got it!

 

[PashafromRussia]

Absolutely. In addition in episode 8, there is nothing going on between the MC and one of the two girls.

In the other episodes, after choosing to remain friends, you could still spend time with one of the two, have interactions (for example in episode 7 you kiss Maya on the cheek in a more than friendly way).

In episode 8, absolutely nothing like this happens between the MC and either of the two.

In the breakfast scene where the MC is supposed to choose a girl, I didn't even have to choose, I had 0 options, 0 girls. (Not even a HOT or a Pink Rose the MC fucked.)

Either DPC forgot to put a reference to a solo route with Maya or Josy in the breakfast scene, or it is not an error and therefore it seems to indicate that there is no planned solo route with Maya or Josy.

As already noticed, if you prefer Josie to Maya during the 6th and 7th episodes, she will wear your sweater in the 8th episode. I do not know what it is if not a hint of a future solo route.

 

[anonymoussposter]

DIK mansion with Halloween theme looks great
Can’t wait for next episode

I hope for interlude update to be small so that we get Halloween asap

but I guess we will get it near next Halloween

 

[varage]

Thanks for not answering my question, pal, and instead just quoting my post to make a stupid joke, complete with misspelling.

I'm just gonna go ahead and add you to my "ignore user" list.

I think he generally wanted to know what secret you mean? Do you mean her parents do you mean she's adopted?-at risk of being ignored by you i'll tell you i have no idea name of either song sorry.

 

[DavDR]

Yeah, that was amongst the hardest choices in the game thus far. On the one hand, Sage deserves to know what Chad did to her - it's hard to say it's not her secret when Chad (as far as we know) deliberately involved her the way he did. But on the other hand, Chad is clearly terrified of the secret getting out and being blindsided by it (rather than revealing it on his own terms) could be disastrous; plus it's not like we know the details of how their relationship started. But on the third hand, Chad being that far in the closet also means it's almost impossible he's ever going to tell Sage himself, which is what I would really like to happen; sadly, the MC is in no position to push Chad in that direction, so maybe telling Sage is the next best thing? On the fourth hand, however, even if Sage takes the news well it's by no means certain learning she was a beard will give her better closure than simply accepting Chad has moved on.

Let me just say this. A relationship should be built on respect and honesty. If you are in a relationship with someone, how would you feel if you found out that they had withheld information that directly impacted your life, and even worse you found out that the reason that they withheld the information from you was because they felt it was for 'Your own good'. Also you mentioned that you had concerns about Chad. But who has more right to your loyalty than the person that you share a relationship with? Would you really put some random Dude on the same level as your girlfriend?

My MC told Sage about the info that fell into his lap because she had the right to know. While common courtesy might make me keep a secret from the rest of the world my MC feels like his girlfriend has more of a right to his loyalty. Finally, my MC would never worry about what Sage would do with that info, because he trust her and knows that she will do the right thing.

 

[Hahn1900]

I'd have no interest in competing for a girl.

In life you hook-up with a girl for fun, or something serious, but it needs to be on equal footing, not one party jumping through hoops to satisfy the other so they can "win" them. That is a sure fire set up for an unbalanced relationship.

I would never compete for a girls attention or love. If a girl expected me and another guy to compete for her interest, the other guy can fucking have her, he'll be jumping through hoops for the rest of the relationship.

Do not give a girl that kind of power over you. Nor should a girl give a guy that kind of power.

Be yourself and find someone compatible, because it's easier to be yourself for the duration of a relationship than it is to behave in a way contrary to who you are just so you can "have the girl". What you will have, is a fucking headache.

All that said, this game does not need competition for the love interests. Tybalt was never competition, he was just a fucking idiot that Jill never wanted to date and now she pretty much doesn't want to even look at him.

The conflicts in this game have nothing to do with other guys stealing the mc's girl(s). It's all about other random dramas. That's pretty much the same as life.

Yeah that is pretty much the same i see things... if you have to fight for the girl against another guy, and she is going with it... she is not the right girl for me. And she will not stay faithful in a realtionship i think... or i just couldnt trust her anyways, but that is real life.

She has to be compatible as you said, and thats about the exact thing going on in being a dik overall (not exactly though)... the MC hits it off with the girl when they are compatible... and it goes along with the attitude too... if youre a dik, yeah fat chance with Jill or Bella...

Its just a little bit to easy to get ALL 4 relationship routes if you stay neutral... i made a playthrough now, with neutral affinity, and in the end i can get all the girls without being rejected or real consequences. That is kinda... weird... and very unrealistic too. (btw no "others" route aviable this way... the "others" route only appears if youre with quinn too, and this is impossible if youre in a maya&josy relationship, so maya and josy rules the others route out i guess)

But yeah it works for me better in the way being a dik is handeling things than other games where you have to overcome another dude... i already dont like the girl if she likes to play with guys like that. So why even bother.

 

[JamieSadistic]

Yeah, that was amongst the hardest choices in the game thus far. On the one hand, Sage deserves to know what Chad did to her - it's hard to say it's not her secret when Chad (as far as we know) deliberately involved her the way he did. But on the other hand, Chad is clearly terrified of the secret getting out and being blindsided by it (rather than revealing it on his own terms) could be disastrous; plus it's not like we know the details of how their relationship started. But on the third hand, Chad being that far in the closet also means it's almost impossible he's ever going to tell Sage himself, which is what I would really like to happen; sadly, the MC is in no position to push Chad in that direction, so maybe telling Sage is the next best thing? On the fourth hand, however, even if Sage takes the news well it's by no means certain learning she was a beard will give her better closure than simply accepting Chad has moved on.

In the end, I generally looked for tie breaks based on a given playthrough. If I felt like I needed to be open and honest with Sage, or that I owed her one for helping Maya/Josy, I usually told her. If I didn't have that extra connection to Sage, I said nothing and hoped for the best.

I am very curious to see what comes of this. Hopefully it will be nuanced enough to have consequences both ways and not just be a 'gotcha' twist 2 episodes down the line.

Oh, and #FUCKYOUDAWE



As I said, this is a very strong argument. But we don't really know just why the relationship started. What if Sage inadvertently cornered Chad and he felt he had no option but to date her lest he give away his secret? Given the traditional connection between the HOTs and Tri-Alphas, it's possible dating the HOT president was expected of Chad. With him being (publicly) single and Sage obviously into him, maybe he couldn't think of a valid excuse that didn't call his sexuality into question.

Granted, it's still a miserable thing to do to someone, but now it's much less deliberate. This is why I wish we had the option to encourage Chad to come clean directly, but the MC is just not in a position where that is plausible (especially if he didn't defend Chad at the hearing).

I'm gonna attempt to touch on all these points.

In about 75% of my playthroughs, I always defend Chad during the hearing for 2 reasons. One, he's being blackmailed and it seems the blackmailer intentionally tried to frame MC, so if I was in a similar situation, I'd have a very hard time not acting out in the same way Chad did.
Two, I saw pretty early on that Chad is going to be a sort of an olive brance between the Alphas and the DIKs with a future friendship with the MC. That's evident in episode 7 after he stops Alex and says "Bro, Stop. He's cool." It's sort of a nod of respect without actually nodding.
Also, as I've said on the forum before. I personally know people that have dealt with being terrified of coming out of the closet for a plethora of reasons so I sympathize with Chad's character. I speculate that Chad wasn't fully aware of his sexuality when he originally began dating Sage. That's also very common with in-the-closet homosexuals, mostly men. College is a time of self-discovery and it seems that Chad discovered he was gay after he was already invested and tied in with Sage. Sage has even said that the ties and traditions between the Alphas and HOTs are strong, perhaps he became overwhelmed and instead of coming clean immediately, he waited for an out of the Fraternity first.....enter MC. Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket to Homosexual Lovin'.
The scene between Sage and Chad if you chose to tell Sage about it sincerely upset me though. Sage was trying so hard to convey understanding, forgiveness and get closure but Chad was having absolutely none of it. He still chose to lie even when he was presented with a slate-cleaning opportunity.

#FUCKYOUDAWE

 

[varage]

Let me just say this. A relationship should be built on respect and honesty. If you are in a relationship with someone, how would you feel if you found out that they had withheld information that directly impacted your life, and even worse you found out that the reason that they withheld the information from you was because they felt it was for 'Your own good'. Also you mentioned that you had concerns about Chad. But who has more right to your loyalty than the person that you share a relationship with? Would you really put some random Dude on the same level as your girlfriend?

My MC told Sage about the info that fell into his lap because she had the right to know. While common courtesy might make me keep a secret from the rest of the world my MC feels like his girlfriend has more of a right to his loyalty. Finally, my MC would never worry about what Sage would do with that info, because he trust her and knows that she will do the right thing.

Actually think of all the potential "ACTUAL" love interest's for her that he A scared away or B she flat out turned down because she was with the "LOVE" of her life already she deserves to know end of story.-It's selfish and if she ran threw the streets screaming his day and outing him it's FAR less then her deserves for being a coward that strung her along ALL her COLLEGE experience which is why she never even experimented in college so People crying over the threesome(OH its so not like her it's so out of character her Character was stunted by chad.) need to realize that the poor girl was repressed by a sexless romance for all of her college years where you go to explore yourself. By an uncarring person.

 

[Ilhares]

As already noticed, if you prefer Josie to Maya during the 6th and 7th episodes, she will wear your sweater in the 8th episode. I do not know what it is if not a hint of a future solo route.

If you choose Josy over Maya in too many scenes Maya also doesn't fuck you at the Spa, and won't let you cum in her in the classroom, no matter how chick you've been. You need to show them both love, or it's going to rupture their relationship.

It would be cool if he threw us a little easter egg though

Any Easter egg with AL involved would only make my back run cold and my skin crawl with goose bumps.

So neither of you twigged to that being exactly why he gave us the woman in the red dress? That was totally a callback to Leah, the crazy nurse.

 

[JamieSadistic]

If you choose Josy over Maya in too many scenes Maya also doesn't fuck you at the Spa, and won't let you cum in her in the classroom, no matter how chick you've been. You need to show them both love, or it's going to rupture their relationship.

So neither of you twigged to that being exactly why he gave us the woman in the red dress? That was totally a callback to Leah, the crazy nurse.

That explains why I cringed so hard when I saw that scene. I couldn't figure it out until just now lol.

 

[Dinosx12]

For some reason, I'm having a lot of troubles to download this version, Mega is annoyingly slow.

 

[PashafromRussia]

If you choose Josy over Maya in too many scenes Maya also doesn't fuck you at the Spa, and won't let you cum in her in the classroom, no matter how chick you've been. You need to show them both love, or it's going to rupture their relationship.

So neither of you twigged to that being exactly why he gave us the woman in the red dress? That was totally a callback to Leah, the crazy nurse.

That's why I have three walkthroughs of Josie and Maya.
1) I'm only chasing Maya
2) I'm only chasing Josie
3) I'm chasing both

 

[peterlemonjello13]

Help!!! I'm caught in a loop of some kind. After the Bella scene it goes to the freeroam where she hasn't heard from Jill in days and you have the MC mom flashback scenes. Then it goes right back to the Bella scene and around and around.

 

[tlarsen]

I know the Halloween party is most likely just going to be Students but damn i'd love to see Bella and Jill participate

 

[Hahn1900]

As already noticed, if you prefer Josie to Maya during the 6th and 7th episodes, she will wear your sweater in the 8th episode. I do not know what it is if not a hint of a future solo route.

yeah i am certain that there will be a route that will end this throuple... its just too clear... you can choose one girl over the other the entire game, nearly in every episode... and there are some different outcomes to that, especially in EP8. (the sweater, sex in the spa and in the classroom) it will come to that, if you prefer one girl over the other that there will be a solo route or everything will just fall apart.

If you give both girls your attention equaliy (i just realised that i have never done such a route... need to do that) it might work out.

And iam sure that you can even get one of the girls if you didnt manage to get in a relationship with them... there are many scenes especially with josy (if you admit to derek that you have feelings for her) that are clear going in that direction.

Overall the Maya/Josy route could be the most interesting route in the long run with very very different outcomes... while every other route will just fail or come to a good end i think.