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I don't think it's a problem that there are no strong villains right now.

The most present "villain" is Tybalt, but there can be no doubt he is, as you said, presented as the buffoon.

While Tybalt may have made life a little difficult for the mc, every one of his scenes is more focused on laughing at him than anything else. The music is perpetually foolish whenever he is on the scene, his dialogue is clueless, his goals are fruitless.

The blackmail scene, while it riled a few people up here, was a big joke. He sat there slobbering away on his watermelon (not the watermelon, mind you), and even offered it to Jill.

The entire joke of the watermelon, Jill's underwear and the photo cannot possibly be taken seriously; he's meant to be an idiot.

He's missed every social cue from Jill, and he's oblivious that the other preps are even venting their disdain for him to the very man he despises (the mc himself!)

The resolution to his big evil blackmail was for Jill to simply stand up to him, tell him exactly how she felt, and he was left in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever.

I don't really need Tybalt to evolve into anything more.

Onto the other main "villain" who is not lurking in the shadows - Maya's dad, Patrick.

Patrick isn't important. He is simply Maya's foil to present her struggles in life. If not her dad, then society would be judging and restricting her.

While we may have discussed otherwise on this board, within the game there has been no mention of trying to reason with the dad. The solution is always Maya circumventing him, in which case, he as a person is of no importance, it's only Maya's solution that matters, which is fine, because the game wants to focus on Maya, not her dad.

Do we need a happily ever after moment with Maya and her dad, where he grows into a person and ceases to be a blatant stereotype? I don't think so. I would prefer that effort be reserved and spent on something like a scene with Maya blowing the mc while Josy gives him a rim job. Now that's a happy ending...

Now it hasn't been established yet that Burke is a threat to the mc, but he is hated among this thread, probably because he is married to Jade, neglects her and looks elsewhere for sex.

His involvement in the nefarious college activities (namely Quinn's restaurant) also puts him out there as a potential bad dude, but already, the mc is fucking his wife.

Burke is established as a week, beaten down character, married to a much stronger force, Jade. He grovels to his wife as she belittles him for his lack of personal achievement in life, strikes out consistently with Bella and is basically an embarrassment; the mc is already fucking his wife!

He is not "The Villain" of this game, but he may become a hindrance at some point in time.

Now Chad was a villain for only moments and has already fizzled out once his title of the Alpha President was taken from him.

Chad was then replaced in the villain department by Dawe who has already been emasculated by pretty much every DIK in the game, and can only assert his dominance by sucker punching people (Tommy, Jamie & the mc).

Dawe is literally so stupid even his moronic girlfriend Arieth can destroy him on Rooster. He is mostly set up to be mocked.

Once again, while he can be a pain in the ass, Dawe is not to be taken seriously.

So it is still possible we have one major villain hiding in the shadows, namely Vinny, and the last look we had of him, selling drugs to Tommy, makes him look quite serious. Has he been causing strife in the background, manipulating things and misdirecting the blame? Time will tell, but that's exactly what I expect.

My feeling is, up until now we didn't need a compelling villain, so these cartoon caricatures have served as entertaining fodder for the mc to cuck (Burke), humiliate (Dawe with everything that is said and done to him), and ultimately witness the destruction of (Tybaly when Jill unleashes).

We are only at the half way mark, it's mostly been about the MC and his friends. The dramas along the way exist to showcase the main characters, and to give us a feel for who the mc is.

I'm not sure if DPC is capable (given his choice of narrative style) of propelling this game into something more thrilling for the second half, or if we'll just continue to deal with bite sized conflicts, and the mc and his friends will graduate mostly unscathed.

But now, as we move into the second half, after the mc has made his choice as to who he wants to get serious with, the game is likely to take turn in a more serious direction. More serious relationship with his chosen girl. More serious drama when Vinnie steps up his game. And more serious stakes to make the story more compelling.
so the most important cycle of the second season is officially a joke, and it's all good? it's all part of the plan?

but from now on there will be a more serious twist and if it won't be in the third season it will be in the fourth and if it won't be in the fourth it will be in the prologue and if it won't be in the prologue it will be in our fan story. trust me it will be!!!

there is nothing wrong with comic moments in the story, but not the lintel of a season and the pivotal moment of one of the 5 LI, which came out very badly pushing all of us players to try to forget what she did for 3 chapters out of 4 ...

for now BADIK has had two important moments, that catalyze almost completely the seasons in which they occur, both between development (Jill) and conclusion (M+J) are among the least appreciated / most criticized. it's going well, but it could have gone much better, because that DPC tent account if we drank three beers or 2 beers and a vodka at the party is great, but not enough.

i can't wait to see MC run away in tears when Zoey arrives

p.s. i quite agree that we don't need an antagonist

by the way all those listed are mainly antagonists of other characters, they become MC only rebound

Quinn is antagonist of Maya and Sage
Chad of Sage
Jill's Tybalt
Burke of Hots and maybe will become one of Maya
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I think the biggest hurdle in Jill's route will be her family accepting that their daughter would decide to be with a person of a lower class mirroring Neil and Lynette's story , although her friends might have accepted him being in her life i don't think her family is going to be so welcoming at first sight , the affinity system might also start kicking in a more meaningful way than before with how they perceive the MC just like how it did with Patrick ( Maya's dad ) during his and the MC's interaction in the dorm , simple rule actually , be a decent person and the people around you will react positively so DIK route players are gonna have a hard time although i don't see players pursuing that route even being interested in Jill , too busy chasing pussy rather than family drama

Tybalt is definitely still a factor in the route , he is too petty to let things go and will definitely come up with ways of hurting the MC and even Jill imo especially after the humiliation he suffered at her hands , has to be one of the most satisfying events in the entire game but i don't see him being the primary antagonist for the route

Also having a previous relationship with Bella before going full exclusive with Jill might stir up some new events with Jill being rightfully mad at the MC and Bella for going behind her back cause as episode 8 hinted that Derek although being a bro has a mouth as loose as Arieth's pussy , no hate i love the guy but man you can't trust him with secrets so i can see a scenario where he might blurt out the Bella walk of shame incident in front of others

And finally i think Jill's route will end up bringing some much needed closure to the MC and his estranged grandparents , i think they are bound to run into each other sooner rather than later especially on this route because just like the Royce's i think Lynette's parents aka the MC's grandparents are definitely influential people so i can see them being interconnected with the Royce family somehow and no not in an incestual way like it has been suggested on this thread for the 1000th time , the flashback pic of Lynette and her friends has made it clear that something big is gonna happen with that story arc and there is also a little bit of foreshadowing with Jill's dialogue of destiny and things , in many ways her route appears more canonical despite this being a choice based AVN instead of a kinetic one



It's the cheekbones that have sort of a similar structure
At last some well explained and point to point analysis, Not to forget that Jill route require mc to be a chick then any chance that tybalt and Jill family will get to bash mc, they will do it with the best of their ability, not to forget jill's family let their own daughter go so MC means noting to them basically a poor filth.

Also I to add jill never stood up for her sister (till this point) so maybe jill will ask mc to prove him self to her family. overall bs.
I can't wait to see MC run away in tears when Zoey arrives
I doubt that, it will be like...
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Aight Zoey just hit S tier on looks alone, if she has a good personality I fear for the stability of the Quinncrew :KEK:
That would have been case but she (Quinn) is not a common LI but Queen of heart. Just think she is not an LI YET, just think: being on her route demands more then most of LIs IN THE GAME. :LOL:
 
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Zoey will be the first girl to join the DIK, you saw it here ;)
I can totally imagine that happening, Zoey up on the balcony singing the walk of shame with the rest of the boys :KEK: Please DPC for the love of god give us a cute DIK tomboy.

Don't fear for my stability. I've been Quinncrew since day one when everybody except a select few hated her lol. I'm riding this shit until the wheels explode.
Never doubted you king, I only doubt myself. Forgive me if I stray :Kappa:
 
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As a full CHIK player, I'm hoping, like with Maya's father, it'll be less harder to win over Amelia. I doubt very much she'll care about what he did for her on stage during the recital, but I don't know. Like you said, her friends have accepted him, but they might see him as a peasant, even after everything he's done for her.

I'm also sure the "getting to Jill through Bella" issue is going to come up as well. I mean there were a few times that Jill looked jealous or worried during that night he helped Cathy and played the guitar with them, or even after the 1st tennis date when they were talking on the bench. I've expecting fallout from that for a good while now.

Tybalt, I don't know. I half expect something but being the horse's ass he is, don't know how far he'll go. I mean, Jill is still technically living there, but maybe if he starts shit up, she'll go to Bella's and maybe that's how Jill will find out about Bella and the MC?

It's all hearsay at this point, and we have what? almost a full year to tear every issue down and examine it, especially Jill's belief in destiny. Eventually, the MC is going to put 2 and 2 together, probably through Lynette's diary perhaps? Maybe she wrote something about them or he'll realize the mansion in the pictures are one and the same?
Maybe Jill's family did something to Lynette's family or something outrageous like that.
 

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Any repercussions or rewards besides the Sarah freebie during gender studies class? I'm wondering about all the other ass choices and what the MC could possible gain or loose from these choices.
 

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Thnks Mark. If you are interested in Madam Bovary, I always recomend a book that the peruvian writer Mario Vargas Llosa wrote about the subject. From that book i took the idea of using Homais as a an example.
Peruvian and Spanish. Mario Vargas Llosa has double citizenship.
 

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I can totally imagine that happening, Zoey up on the balcony singing the walk of shame with the rest of the boys :KEK: Please DPC for the love of god give us a cute DIK tomboy.
Dude, I'd be ALL about that. I'm a sucker for them tomboy types. Imagine hanging around with all the DIKs including Zoey drinking and she ends up in the library butt nekkid going HAM on some Vodka Fanny Bullets.

Never doubted you king, I only doubt myself. Forgive me if I stray :Kappa:
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Any repercussions or rewards besides the Sarah freebie during gender studies class? I'm wondering about all the other ass choices and what the MC could possible gain or loose from these choices.
Either Sarah, Riona or Camila offers one free sexual service if you voted for one of the girls.
 
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As a full CHIK player, I'm hoping, like with Maya's father, it'll be less harder to win over Amelia. I doubt very much she'll care about what he did for her on stage during the recital, but I don't know. Like you said, her friends have accepted him, but they might see him as a peasant, even after everything he's done for her.

I'm also sure the "getting to Jill through Bella" issue is going to come up as well. I mean there were a few times that Jill looked jealous or worried during that night he helped Cathy and played the guitar with them, or even after the 1st tennis date when they were talking on the bench. I've expecting fallout from that for a good while now.

Tybalt, I don't know. I half expect something but being the horse's ass he is, don't know how far he'll go. I mean, Jill is still technically living there, but maybe if he starts shit up, she'll go to Bella's and maybe that's how Jill will find out about Bella and the MC?

It's all hearsay at this point, and we have what? almost a full year to tear every issue down and examine it, especially Jill's belief in destiny. Eventually, the MC is going to put 2 and 2 together, probably through Lynette's diary perhaps? Maybe she wrote something about them or he'll realize the mansion in the pictures are one and the same?
A player with a CHICK affinity will definitely appear in a much better light to Amelia and hopefully her father than a player with the DIK affinity who tends to be a bit more abrasive in how they treat people around them and yes the friends accepting the MC so soon does arouse a little bit of suspicion but i will reserve my full judgement for that little group as i need more time with those characters , the little interactions so far does paint a positive picture however with Bianca coming off as a more prominent character in the group and i am sure will have some bigger role to play as the story progresses

As Jill has alluded before especially during their first date that her family does care about appearances being who they are so a kid from a no name background at least at this point in the story suddenly dating their daughter would be seen as Jill acting out / rebelling like her sister so some sort of a consequence is definitely to follow and i am guessing the other people in the college will also be buzzing with gossip as to this new found relationship

The Bella fallout imo will happen when a player least expects it and depending on the players choice up to that point it might be a make it or break it kind of event , dedicated saves are a must have at this point if we want to see the various perspectives and about the Royce mansion , the MC has two photos now where the mansion shows up so if he has even a bit of common sense he will start questioning as to what is going on and hopefully Jill could provide the players with that lingering question as to how it's all connected

Also by not pursuing Bella at all leaves this big gaping hole in the story so even if a player is a dedicated Jill fan i still think they should at least try that route out before making the big decision of ep 8

Tybalt maybe a horse's ass but he is a rich petty horse's ass so i am 100 % sure he will try and scheme something to harm the relationship and the player in general but if our choices so far have been decent i don't think he will get too far , the dude is generally disliked by all , they tolerate him because of his name , glad to see the new preps hate the guy and are just regular dudes despite the whole prep stigma attached to them so i think making an effort to get on their good side will pay off in the long run

At last some well explained and point to point analysis, Not to forget that Jill route require mc to be a chick then any chance that tybalt and Jill family will get to bash mc, they will do it with the best of their ability, not to forget jill's family let their own daughter go so MC means noting to them basically a poor filth.

Also I to add jill never stood up for her sister (till this point) so maybe jill will ask mc to prove him self to her family. overall bs.
We don't know what Lana ( Jill's sis ) even did to be labelled as a black sheep among the family so i don't think it's a fair assessment to think that Jill never stood up for her , she clearly adores her sister but at that point in her life i don't think she was in any position to help her in a meaningful way , we will have to wait for that aspect of the story to be made clear before we can judge her

And yes her family did exile her but again we don't know why , maybe it was something that could have really hurt the image of the entire family or maybe it was Lana's own choice to up and leave , we just don't know yet so let's reserve our judgement

Yo who leaked the video of MC and Jade. OMG. Lol. Liking forward to the fall out.
Probably the same person responsible for the Cathy leak from the laptop , idk why Rusty doesn't get rid of it , it's still compromised imo
 

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Any repercussions or rewards besides the Sarah freebie during gender studies class? I'm wondering about all the other ass choices and what the MC could possible gain or loose from these choices.
Good question and one that I've pondered quite a bit myself. It seems that it does effect the episode 7 sex scene with Camila and Riona (IIRC) so there's that. I'm wondering if it'll have a further impact in future episodes. Possibly with Elena or Heather. I hope it doesn't effect anything with Ashley or Lily because those are the two that I ALWAYS pick for ugliest ass.
 
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Yeah, the wrong kind of lesbian content (romance), not the proper one (kinky one)
Honestly, I've never found the appeal of lesbians. In real life, they're NEVER two absolute hotties getting it on. It's always a fat, masculine looking woman with a half shaved head and another one that looks like she smokes crack as a hobby.
 

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The Bella fallout imo will happen when a player least expects it and depending on the players choice up to that point it might be a make it or break it kind of event , dedicated saves are a must have at this point if we want to see the various perspectives and about the Royce mansion , the MC has two photos now where the mansion shows up so if he has even a bit of common sense he will start questioning as to what is going on and hopefully Jill could provide the players with that lingering question as to how it's all connected
In my Jill route, I never pushed Bella into a kiss past the library scene in E3. Whenever I had the choice, like staying at her house and going swimming with her, I never tried anything, plus I was figuring for the future that it wouldn't look good at all knowing it could and most likely will come up in the future. I've definitely not pushed that envelope when it came to attempting to do anything with Bella.

I think I'm more worried about Jill's parents at this point than I am Tybalt. The Zoey shit just has me on edge though, but it's the parents, like you said, that said appearances matter to.
 

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Thanks for trying to allay my fears bro :BootyTime: I'm just struggling to figure out the exact scope of the Others path if literally every girl on it is optional. On the one hand if you're pursuing Quinn and Lily and Nicole or are interested in Zoey etc. the Others path has the potential to be the GOAT path. On the other hand if you're not pursuing any of the girls, it can potentially be the Incel path :KEK: That amount of variability is not cohesive to a narrative. Of course as a Quinn simp I'll stick around for any crumb of content and I'm happy about her unique variables but I think it's pretty unlikely any new paths will emerge, officially or unofficially. I think this is it and things are locked as is. Which means any kind of Broccoli Path would be purely picking around the edges of whatever the 'main' content of the Others path would be, which I can't even guess at.
I get your apprehension about what the Others path might mean. It's hard to tell, and there's certainly a risk it could end up being less satisfying for the Quinn crew. But I don't think it has to mean we'll be picking at the edges for content; in fact it could mean the reverse.

The way I see it, the benefit of splitting from the MGs, at least for now, is that we're spared having to spend time on every single one of the dramas going on in each of their routes. So it's unlikely, for example, that if there's an equivalent of a Jill recital in the future, that a DIK MC pursuing Quinn would even be invited to it, let alone have an option to help her. "MC Others" will have "other" things on his mind, literally, and more time to spend on them. Doubtless there'll still be the core story events that are common to all paths, but the extent of our engagement with those events is likely to be much more deeply influenced by the given path. As a hypothetical, let's say that by the end of a future episode, Quinn is facing some kind of dangerous situation linked to her drugs business. The fact of her being in danger would be something that occurs on all paths, but players on Jill's path might only hear about it third-hand from another character, whilst a player on the Others path could know all the details leading up to that moment, and could even be involved in that dangerous situation with her. I can see similar options for Lily and an MC that chooses to "roll" with her.

But my biggest reason for believing that there will be solid amounts of Quinn content to come, and broccoli aplenty, comes from just looking at what we've seen up to this point. There's simply been too much set up with the character for it all to just fizzle out. Quinn had less content in this episode than the previous one, but look at the screentime DPC did give her. They were almost all character moments, where he pushed her further in the direction of getting closer to MC, letting her guard down, revealing more layers. And that's a journey that isn't finished; he needs to pay that off. I'm telling you - that Quinn end screen animation is indicative. Keep the faith!
 
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We don't know what Lana ( Jill's sis ) even did to be labelled as a black sheep among the family so i don't think it's a fair assessment to think that Jill never stood up for her , she clearly adores her sister but at that point in her life i don't think she was in any position to help her in a meaningful way , we will have to wait for that aspect of the story to be made clear before we can judge her

And yes her family did exile her but again we don't know why , maybe it was something that could have really hurt the image of the entire family or maybe it was Lana's own choice to up and leave , we just don't know yet so let's reserve our judgement
I Imagine what could have she done drug, Knockout out in car or May be a rebel definitely must have killed someone right :cautious:, that is why she got kicked out.
Jill never stood up for her : 1. She mentioned her sister as not right. 2. After her a Piano play do you think she did stand up ?
there are 2 more valid point i am forgetting but for sure she don't have that type of character further more, her 180 degree change in character is not a new tactic to make her more likeable or should I say she was a mic for tybalt.

that all turn upside down in her character to make her more likeable is not that impressive. I would rather MC show here mirror that what tybalt have done with recording or something then she took mc side and bash tybalt would be not call bs.
I never pushed Bella into a kiss
It's not MC that pushes bella into Kiss. :rolleyes: :cautious: :FacePalm: She does !

Zoey arrives in Season 3 be like :BootyTime:
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