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...or a child born and then died a few years later... :cry:
That would very much explain Bella's harshness and her walls that she put up. On top of that and James? If she's repressing one or both things of that magnitude, I can see why Bella tried to keep the MC at a distance initially.
 

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That would very much explain Bella's harshness and her walls that she put up. On top of that and James? If she's repressing one or both things of that magnitude, I can see why Bella tried to keep the MC at a distance initially.
i believe on that theory
they had a son and he died at young age
james left because a lot of couples dont resist to tragedy like that (unfortunately that happens a lot in real life)
bella is still waiting for james to come home and in her head they are still married and she feels guilty for having fun with other persons
 

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she gets angry and says something like "and about you? why dont you reveal your secret?" and they start fighting
I have just played that scene and Jill doesn´t say to Bella "why don´t you reveal your secret?" When Isabella reveals that she´s a Royce, Jill first says "but that was a secret", and when Isabella asks why that was a secret, she says "nevermind" and apologices. Maybe is a line that was changed by DPC?
 
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I have just played that scene and Jill doesn´t say to Bella "why don´t you reveal your secret?" When Isabella reveals that she´s a Royce, Jill first says "but that was a secret", and when Isabella asks why that was a secret, she says "nevermind" and apologices. Maybe is a line that was changed by DPC?
I saw Jill say that line to Bella while I was on her route. Let me pull the picture up...

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After that they argue about the MC "moving in" and after a few more scenes and dialogue, the MC steps in and says there's no need to fighting, and that being a Royce doesn't change things, then the girls apologize
 
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I have just played that scene and Jill doesn´t say to Bella "why don´t you reveal your secret?" When Isabella reveals that she´s a Royce, Jill first says "but that was a secret", and when Isabella asks why that was a secret, she says "nevermind" and apologices. Maybe is a line that was changed by DPC?
on my 1st playthrough i was like dik/neutral and close to bella and i remember jill getting angry and saying something like that
on my 2nd playthrough i was neutral/chick and close to jill and i think she didnt said that, she just says it was a secret and "nevermind"
dont know if it was removed or if depends on the path
 

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Anyhow since we're on the topic of Quinn again, I never really thought about the fact that Quinn and the MC both only have their dad. That's something they've never bonded about, I hope they do so in the future.
Right, good point. This topic seems too big for them both to omit, so I'm pretty sure DPC will show us a scene with Quinn and Fuckface reflexing on their likeness.

Judging by how Neil reacts to Zoey, I wanna see his reaction to Quinn and her reaction to him :unsure:
I'd love a scene like that. But you see, this is where the fun begins where we step into the dark waters, cause I think Neil might eventually have a heart attack because of Quinn :KEK:
 
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on my 1st playthrough i was like dik/neutral and closed to bella and i remember jill getting angry and saying something like that
on my 2nd playthrough i was neutral/chick and closed to jill and i think she didnt said that, she just says it was a secret and "nevermind"
dont know if it was removed or if depends on the path
I'm pretty sure it depends on the path. I know I'm pretty CHIK at that point and only with Jill

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my stats during that scene
 

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i believe on that theory
they had a son and he died at young age
james left because a lot of couples dont resist to tragedy like that (unfortunately that happens a lot in real life)
bella is still waiting for james to come home and in her head they are still married and she feels guilty for having fun with other persons
And why she says at the library "please, forgive me"? Did she was responsible of the death of the boy, or something? I just think that for some reason they had relationship troubles, James was frustrated trying to get to Bella and Bella being cold with him for some reason (as we see at the beginning of the last update), and when she sees Bella kissing Jill or something like that, it´s the last straw. He gets angry and leaves. That´s why Isabella feels guilty: first, for being cold with her husband. Second, for fooling around with Jill and scare him away.

Burke try to seduce Isabella, but he is not able, and so he tells to Cathy, so I don´t think is the reason of James´leaving.
 

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on my 1st playthrough i was like dik/neutral and close to bella and i remember jill getting angry and saying something like that
on my 2nd playthrough i was neutral/chick and close to jill and i think she didnt said that, she just says it was a secret and "nevermind"
dont know if it was removed or if depends on the path
Nope. Played it again with DIK affinity and "huge DIK" points with the mod, and the scene is the same. It makes sense, since is not the MC the one who talks, but Bella and Jill.

EDITED: OK, now I know what happen. That line only appears if Tremolo stayed with Isabella instead of Sage or Derek. The "secret" is Tremolo living there with Isabella. The dialogue is:
- Jill: What about your secret?
- Bella: What secret?
- Jill: Tremolo moving in here
- Bella: I let him stay here for a couple of nights and that´s it.

So, the secret is not about Bella´s husband, just Jill feeling a bit jealous of Bella living with Tremolo.
 
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I'm 99% sure that you used to be able to get through Ida's swiper and have her contact you again but as "Micha". Now everything I try ends with go screw and a broken heart later on.
Yes that's what I meant too... whatever you do Go screw ! is the end of it either way... :LOL:
 

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I am fucked....

I finished my first playthrough a while ago. I went all Bella and thought why not go another route. Maybe Jill., Sage, Maya... All went well. I even earned some $ but then I have met Bella again after i stole the panites from the HOTS and I feel I can not resist her XD

I am screwed I will never become a huge dik but always stay a huge chick XD
 

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I am fucked....

I finished my first playthrough a while ago. I went all Bella and thought why not go another route. Maybe Jill., Sage, Maya... All went well. I even earned some $ but then I have met Bella again after i stole the panites from the HOTS and I feel I can not resist her XD

I am screwed I will never become a huge dik but always stay a huge chick XD
That's how I felt when I first played this game long ago. Went for Jill on a full CHIK and ever since, I couldn't do anything with anyone else. Just the way it is. You find that one girl and no matter what, you just can't resist her and don't want to stray to somebody else.
 

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That's how I felt when I first played this game long ago. Went for Jill on a full CHIK and ever since, I couldn't do anything with anyone else. Just the way it is. You find that one girl and no matter what, you just can't resist her and don't want to stray to somebody else.
You are putting waaay too much feelings in there mate ! :LOL: It's just a game... not even that... a Visual Novel ! I'm not saying to change your opinion about Jill ( hell no I think that chick is fine :KEK: ) but thinking like this will leave you with too much content lost... and situations where you don't know what's what ! o_O Sure you can find intel in places like this one but it's not the same ! :D;)
 

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They do talk about it though in the scene when they're both in bed together before she makes her way to the couch, so obviously something between the two happened, even if it was just a kiss between them. Cathy could be a possibility though, or like you said, any of Bella's other friends too. I personally want to know what happened between Jill and Bella. The curiosity was always strong with that.
I always assumed that scene referred to Jill getting hands-on grabby with people who share her bed while she slept, as what happened when MC stayed the night back in Ep 2 or 3. When Jill was forced to sleep with Bella that night because MC took the couch, she said to Bella it won't happen again. Eventually Jill left and took her chances on the couch with MC instead. That was always my interpretation of that scene, but it's been a year+ since I last played Ep 5 so my memory could be getting foggy.

With that said, this is still a porn game so maybe Jill and Bella were getting it on. I'm sure in the final season there will be an option for a threesome between Jill and Bella if the MC plays his cards right. There has to be some benefit to entering into a relationship this early in a porn game, and threesomes between the main 5 LIs is my guess to what they will be.
 
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You are putting waaay too much feelings in there mate ! :LOL: It's just a game... not even that... a Visual Novel ! I'm not saying to change your opinion about Jill ( hell no I think that chick is fine :KEK: ) but thinking like this will leave you with too much content lost... and situations where you don't know what's what ! o_O Sure you can find intel in places like this one but it's not the same ! :D;)
We all know how dedicated I am to a single LI per game; it started a certain older sister from a certain almost abandoned game, to Megan from AL, to a certain Doc, then Jill. I blame it on those "big 4" in the very early stages of my VN career. Yeah I'm missing more than half of each game (probably much more than half in this one) but I've said it before that I dedicate myself to one girl per game like I've dedicated the last 14 years to my girlfriend.

I've always had this very well developed loyalty trait in real life, and that transitioned over to VNs, and I never once apologized for it, and never will.

It's just who I am as a person and that's why I can never really do one more than one LI per game for the most part.
 
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