VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Lostanddamned]

To be fair people predicted the “after the music concert” time frame like 3 episodes ago.

I don’t think what drove DPC to have the scene now was some pressure to give the people what they want it was because he wrote her arc that way. It was all deliberate. DPC said himself in the recent Q&A his policy is players play the game, game makers make the games. He claims people don’t influence his writing (that’s obviously an easy thing to say) so it’s not insane he just wrote her that way.

Besides, It’s not like the sex with Jill was out of the blue or incongruous. She went on and on about being a virgin, the three date rule… DPC was about as blatant as you can be drawing parallels between her behaviour on stage and her thoughts about sex. He sealed that deal with some extraordinarily rare inner monologue from Jill… how many girls do we actually hear the thoughts of so we know exactly where they stand?

It was the most telegraphed sex scene in the game in my opinion. He spent time setting up her stage fright and then her “bedroom fright” and the MC helping her over come one was kinda inevitably gonna lead to her overcoming the other. I think it was a deliberate choice built over 3+ episodes rather than him giving into complaints.

To say that DPC isn't taking ideas or inspiration from things we write is not exactly. There was a guy here during 0.1, I don't remember who it was, that the dude played the first update and called the Troy/Chad gay storyline, Maya/Josy/Patrick storyline and something else (I don't remember what it was, but I think it was something related to Burke and Quinn) on the spot, like years before they actually happened. And that was during the time when DPC still visited this forum, so the logical explanation would be that either DPC took inspiration from that guy or it was a fake profile that DPC created so he could get the ball rolling.

 

[lipe2410]

Now I have a green Josy in my head and its kinda turning me on

Josy as She-Hulk in Halloween party

 

[felicemastronzo]

To be fair people predicted the “after the music concert” time frame like 3 episodes ago.

I don’t think what drove DPC to have the scene now was some pressure to give the people what they want it was because he wrote her arc that way. It was all deliberate. DPC said himself in the recent Q&A his policy is players play the game, game makers make the games. He claims people don’t influence his writing (that’s obviously an easy thing to say) so it’s not insane he just wrote her that way.

Besides, It’s not like the sex with Jill was out of the blue or incongruous. She went on and on about being a virgin, the three date rule… DPC was about as blatant as you can be drawing parallels between her behaviour on stage and her thoughts about sex. He sealed that deal with some extraordinarily rare inner monologue from Jill… how many girls do we actually hear the thoughts of so we know exactly where they stand?

It was the most telegraphed sex scene in the game in my opinion. He spent time setting up her stage fright and then her “bedroom fright” and the MC helping her over come one was kinda inevitably gonna lead to her overcoming the other. I think it was a deliberate choice built over 3+ episodes rather than him giving into complaints.

and also congruently, the only ones who can access Jill's first time are those who will engage with her (as Bella)

if we had known what this "crossroad" would be it would have been a really easy bet

 

[AchedCroissant]

Josy as She-Hulk in Halloween party

Hey send me a private message because I can't send you one lol

 

[PashafromRussia]

Sure, but the question is if a Sistine Chapel painted directly by Michelangelo himself would have been different than one painted by people under his supervision. I suspect the answer is yes, though whether it would have been better, worse or effectively the same is impossible to say. But DPC is the one calling the shots. If he thinks a collaborative BaDIK would be sufficiently different from the version he makes himself, there's no reason to doubt him and not much point in debating it. You can think he's making a mistake, obviously, but that's no different than any other artistic disagreement.

The economic question is a separate aspect. If DPC had a single patron who commissioned a massive, college-themed AVN for his 10th reunion and thus needed it done on time, DPC might have been forced to put a team together to meet the deadline. Likewise, if DPC wanted to be the head of a prestigious AVN design studio, he could have assembled a team to make AL, then expanded to make BaDIK. But DPC has a crowd-sourced funding that pays him without hard deadlines, and he seems much happier writing games himself than on managing people. So rather than forcing DPC's hand to develop the game on ways he dislikes, the economics actually encourage and enable him to take his time and do it 'right.'

Which again, doesn't mean that it's the optimum outcome from our own point of view, just that it IS a valid choice, and one we're very unlikely to be able to change.



It's been about a month, though the exact timeline is nebulous now. I agree it's frustrating that the MC hasn't spent a night with Maya (much less both girls) since then. As usual, I blame the crossroads.

But I will say it's not quite as unreasonable as it may seem at first glance. The MC and Maya were still insisting they AREN'T a formal throuple yet, and more importantly they are trying to keep the relationship a secret. They should still be doing more to spend time together, but there are practical limits to how much that could happen.

This should begin to change come Season 3 if you're on their branch, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

I don't understand why the game is compared to the Sistine Chapel at all. They have nothing in common with each other. BAD is a game and, most importantly, a business project. The game is getting bigger and bigger with each update, at some point DPC itself will get confused and everything will go to hell.
There are already more than 20 characters in the game and we have passed only half. By the end of season 4, about 50 actors may be involved in the game. And for each character, you will need to prescribe motivation.
DPC obviously does not hurt to hire a one person for post-processing renders and most importantly the editor. There are a lot of examples when too ambitious projects go down the drain when there is no right person who would control the creator. When the creator wants to do a lot and embrace everything, it usually ends badly. Ambition must be controlled by common sense. DPC needs to trust people more, given how high the level of 3D artists is now.

 

[ChipLecsap]

and also congruently, the only ones who can access Jill's first time are those who will engage with her (as Bella)

if we had known what this "crossroad" would be it would have been a really easy bet

Here, we all, or most of all pretty much know what the "CrossRoad" will be about, to be fair. Also I personally assumed the Jill and the Bella sex scene will happen, at least in the end of the season.
there were some who resisted, but I was sure, he won't finish season 2, with 2 of the main girl still not getting their sex scene. I admit, I was more hesitant with Bella, at first because, earlier, I expected this to be the Halloween episode. But as we was getting the previews , its became more and more obvious we wont getting Halloween , and form that it was easy to figure out the rest. .

 

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[AchedCroissant]

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Big fan of Zoey since I was born tell that to DPC

 

[OFT]

He sealed that deal with some extraordinarily rare inner monologue from Jill… how many girls do we actually hear the thoughts of so we know exactly where they stand?

It's a very small number. If you count Jill's, I think it totals only 5 among the LIs...

 

[ChipLecsap]

Big fan of Zoey since I was born tell that to DPC

She has nipple piercing. I'm starting to like her more , still to many Tattoo, but

 

[felicemastronzo]

Here, we all, or most of all pretty much know what the "CrossRoad" will be about, to be fair. Also I personally assumed the Jill and the Bella sex scene will happen, at least in the end of the season.
there were some who resisted, but I was sure, he won't finish season 2, with 2 of the main girl still not getting their sex scene. I admit, I was more hesitant with Bella, at first because, earlier, I expected this to be the Halloween episode. But as we was getting the previews , its became more and more obvious we wont getting Halloween , and form that it was easy to figure out the rest. .

that there would have been a choice, yes, but I was convinced that the choice would have been made again by the LIs and therefore I was not sure from whom

I didn't expect a moment with MC who decides among all of them who is his soul mate (quite sudden)

 

[Laport Deminis]

Besides, It’s not like the sex with Jill was out of the blue or incongruous. She went on and on about being a virgin, the three date rule…

I thought Jill first sex was going to be by the end... of this century. But vI agree it has sense as it was and that it seems planned. Jill and Bella had their first sex scene at the same moment, and after you choose one of them. You can't have both of them or switch from one to another. And it also have sense to be in the middle. Otherwise Jill's fans will get a smal number of scenes with her.

Maya/Josy/Patrick storyline

At least the Maya/Josy relationship was foreshadow in the first episode. Josy sayd she knew a feminist and we later knew Maya as a feminist. Still the whole package seems a lot to guess.

 

[Heyesey]

we start from the right assumption that DPC does what he wants with his game, but this does not mean in any way that his choice is the best unquestionably.

It is by definition. DPC is the only person whose opinion counts.

 

[Razrback16]

Yep love the pierced nips on Zoey, nice.

 

[27X]

This isn't a TV show though, it's a porn game. It's not a good idea to postpone content just because you fear that you will lose your fans. VatosGames postponed the Nora content for like 14 episodes and people already knew what to expect when a new episode dropped, until he finally gave people the scene they wanted (and it was an amazing one, probably the best on in the game by far).

I honestly didn't believe DPC would give us a Jill scene until like episode 9 or 10 and hell then I still thought that it would be like a handjob or something. But he's good at reading his fanbase I guess and he realized that people were getting tired of his shit and ridiculed him for it. As for the scene, it's not great, not terrible. Problem was that he put it in the same episode that had a lot of great scenes and it kinda got lost in the way.

Except the entire premise of this game and literally every setpiece in it are directly taken from western media, including most of the dialog.

 

[PashafromRussia]

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Zoey and her boyfriend...Anti NTR Army will become a crazy and angry.

 

[OFT]

She has nipple piercing. I'm starting to like her more , still to many Tattoo, but

Yep love the pierced nips on Zoey, nice.

Whelp, I guess he decided to work with it again:




I'm not a huge fan of piercings, but I do like variety, so bring it!

 

[Pendrell]

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So Daz assets don't have a big range and all, but...that guy's neck tattoo is the same as the one Rox has. He also has a tattoo of a skull.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Zoey and her boyfriend...Anti NTR Army will become a crazy and angry.

this would explain the hair color, the girl is blind

 

[AchedCroissant]

She has nipple piercing. I'm starting to like her more , still to many Tattoo, but

I can't wait to see those bad boys