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according to me, in the first game there were many who left her to die, in case they didn't even have the option to save her...
especially after rumors began to spread about the terrible DPC that punishes betrayals (one of the biggest myths of F95...)
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aesthetically yes, but it is one of the worst written characters by DPC....
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Well he is a Burgermeister. I always assumed that them and the Royce's already owned every building on campus. It was just a matter of setting it up for the DIKs.
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Bert (I think that's Bert) looks like Magnar just ordered him to go kill some stupid motherfucker and dude's holding a joint and contemplating the hit.So TLDR : Either Quinn (You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
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He's the one who went Krav Maga on Derek after a wedgie isn't he? Probably planning a neck-snap or something.Bert (I think that's Bert) looks like Magnar just ordered him to go kill some stupid motherfucker and dude's holding a joint and contemplating the hit.
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And I was feeling sorry for beating him for his lunch money in Brawler, no more!Bert (I think that's Bert) looks like Magnar just ordered him to go kill some stupid motherfucker and dude's holding a joint and contemplating the hit.
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in my opinion it is something more than a theoryOK, I feel a theory coming on...
Some of this I've been saying for a while now.
So Vinny trashes his own room when he starts up with the DIKs. But it's all a bit of subterfuge, to hide shit or whatever.
Vinny gets kicked out, probably because Tommy threw a tantrum or some shit like that.
But Vinny has left something important at the mansion. I'm thinking drugs, but it could be anything, but it's small.
During the Cathy Cluck escapade, we hear that the laptop has been found, in the library no less, and yet there's Nick, searching in the library for something. Is he really looking for the laptop? Or is he looking for something at Vinny's behest (I've been playing the Witcher 3 again, I don't know how many times I've heard, "...at the emperor's command and Yennefer's behest", so it's my turn to use that old ass word).
Anyway, Nick is looking like he's up to some skulduggery (another old ass, yet cool word), I don't believe for a second he was in that room looking for the laptop. But he doesn't find whatever it is he's looking for (that's what happens when you trash your own room Vinny, you stupid fuck
Then the mansion is trashed. Yes all signs point to the Alphas. Including literal signs sprawled over the walls. I keep saying it, the Alphas are somewhat retarded, but they are able to resist getting into fights with the DIKs only to trash the DIK mansion and then personally tag the place? No, they didn't do it.
It's a frame job. Vinny and his crew have trashed the joint looking for something, and decided to frame the Alphas to cover their tracks.
But what is it they are looking for. Suddenly, out of absolutely fucking nowhere (I wasn't even playing a scene where this little fucker shows up - that just shows you how random my brain is these days), it fucking dawned on me:
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Yeah, anyway, just a theory...
that black cube has been highlighted in a quite artificial way (with the obligation to go to the desk and find it) so it surely hides something and Vinnie can only be its original owner
on the question of the assault on the DIKs' house, I still think that for the way the scene went, the Jocks are part of the enterprise, Vinnie could have been there before, together or after them.
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I also believe that the little black cube contains something important. But whether it has anything to do with Vinny, I don't think so.OK, I feel a theory coming on...
Some of this I've been saying for a while now.
So Vinny trashes his own room when he starts up with the DIKs. But it's all a bit of subterfuge, to hide shit or whatever.
Vinny gets kicked out, probably because Tommy threw a tantrum or some shit like that.
But Vinny has left something important at the mansion. I'm thinking drugs, but it could be anything, but it's small.
During the Cathy Cluck escapade, we hear that the laptop has been found, in the library no less, and yet there's Nick, searching in the library for something. Is he really looking for the laptop? Or is he looking for something at Vinny's behest (I've been playing the Witcher 3 again, I don't know how many times I've heard, "...at the emperor's command and Yennefer's behest", so it's my turn to use that old ass word).
Anyway, Nick is looking like he's up to some skulduggery (another old ass, yet cool word), I don't believe for a second he was in that room looking for the laptop. But he doesn't find whatever it is he's looking for (that's what happens when you trash your own room Vinny, you stupid fuck
Then the mansion is trashed. Yes all signs point to the Alphas. Including literal signs sprawled over the walls. I keep saying it, the Alphas are somewhat retarded, but they are able to resist getting into fights with the DIKs only to trash the DIK mansion and then personally tag the place? No, they didn't do it.
It's a frame job. Vinny and his crew have trashed the joint looking for something, and decided to frame the Alphas to cover their tracks.
But what is it they are looking for. Suddenly, out of absolutely fucking nowhere (I wasn't even playing a scene where this little fucker shows up - that just shows you how random my brain is these days), it fucking dawned on me:
This little cunt is gonna unlock some seriously important shit!You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Yeah, anyway, just a theory...
Nick and Rusty have had contact with Vinny from the beginning. You can read about that in EP2. In EP8, even Tommy meets with Vinny again. No, Vinny has nothing to do with the destruction of the mansion.
However, I also agree with you or myself that the Alphas probably have nothing to do with the destruction of DIK's Mansion either. The Alphas, including Dawes, can't be that stupid and leave their mark all over the mansion.
But then who was it? Why was the mansion vandalized?
One theory:
What gets me thinking is what Rusty says to the MC when he tells the DIKs that the HOTs are only at the Prep's party to make money for the HOTs. Rusty said that he would have helped the HOTs. Sage wouldn't have gone to Rusty, that's not her style. But Quinn would have had no problem with it. So why is Quinn threading the preps thing? We got the answer in EP8. Quinn wants to make sure the Alphas are busy on Halloween. Maybe Quinn made sure the DIKs were busy in EP5? But why? Quinn shows concern in EP8 if you don't follow the Quinn path and touch the MC when planning Halloween. I didn't think she would have a problem with it otherwise. She even fucked the MC on the sperm petition. I thought that was very strange. What if Quinn was hired by someone to make sure the DIKs were not at the mansion. Someone who knows who the MC is or what family he belongs to.
It's also strange that Rusty's father suddenly stops all payments and won't help Rusty. Rusty and Tommy already wanted to give up everything. What would have been the consequences of that? All the DIK's would have had to enroll in the dorm again. Also the MC. Was the mansion perhaps destroyed for that very reason and made sure (no money from Papa Burgmeister) that it would not be rebuilt?
But there was something positive about the destruction of the mansion. The DIK's learned something. The DIK's no longer need free money because they are all working for the Brotherhood now. This is much better in the long run and puts the DIK's on a stable foundation for the future.
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A big guess, but Vinny maybe reach Caleb to trash the mansion with him. Caleb accept knowing that won't bring trouble to jocks since he wasn't a alpha yet. And while Caleb trash the mansion, Vinny go for search what he looking in masion.
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I remember the first time this was mentioned in the thread, one of the things that was said was that Nick was very important for this to happen, since at no other time the mansion was empty, so someone had to warn Vinnie of the situation, and it could be that when he arrived at the mansion, the jocks were throwing the dildos out of the windows again, which Vinnie would take advantage of to literally turn the house upside down.
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Too many pieces missing from the puzzle
as of today we have no reason to think of a direct collaboration between Vinnie and the Jocks, more likely, it was a lucky coincidence as in the theory expressed by the saboteur agent of DPC
.We'll see, I have many doubts that all the mysteries that have been built will be solved in an unequivocal way, in my opinion many of them will remain basically unresolved and everyone will explain them as they see fit, but we will surely hear more about the black box.
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Funny enough this is another swedish black cube....
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I think the role of Nick in this could be just tell Vinny when the mansion was empty, without know what he is looking for and how he will do to get it. Maybe Nick just told Vinny that they just get another fight with alphas and Vinny, being the crazy guy he is, come alone with the idea of trash the mansion using the alphas, or just CalebToo many pieces missing from the puzzle
as of today we have no reason to think of a direct collaboration between Vinnie and the Jocks, more likely, it was a lucky coincidence as in the theory expressed by the saboteur agent of DPC
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I don't know, I didn't make the theory, but it still seems possible to me, basically because we don't know anything about Vinnie. Vinnie's problem with Tommy was big, enough to fall to blows and Vinnie left not only the DIKs but also the university (assuming this is the reason, since no other reason is mentioned), the end of the episode shows that Tommy prefers to eat his pride with Vinnie rather than with Quinn (although he also ate his pride by going to talk to her, and it didn't have the expected effect).
Well we can agree that it seems unlikely that the destruction will be the total work of the jocks, at least it does not seem very logical to encourage a mutually assured destruction.
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Even to me Nick does not give the impression of the infamous, but if he had warned Vinnie not having any idea of what would have happened, then if he would have had to ask her two questions, he should have had some doubts, instead he seems to live it serene
at this point he is either completely innocent and is just a huge red herring, or completely guilty and aware of his role.
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Vinnie's motives are to get clients for his merchandise, as a secundary goal he might want to obstruct Quinn's business.
But lets be fair, what exactly does Vinny get from the DIK mansion being trashed? He will not get more clients, there's no parties in the DIK mansion. He gets Tommy as client but that's a result of Quinn doubling prices to compensate being robbed. So what's Vinnie's motive?
The only suspicious thing is his friend Nick's room didn't get trashed... and that could have been pure luck because the people wrecking the house started at the first door they saw up the stairs (Jacob) and then continued to the right...
So it's either the Jocks or another (group) that wanted it to look like the Jocks did it or they did it for the Jocks. The dildo's point at the Jocks but putting their signs everywhere when being watched? That's Dawe Dumb 101. So Caleb? Vinnie? Some Tri Beta's?
Only the Jocks have a clear motive but it's still questionable they did it.
But lets be fair, what exactly does Vinny get from the DIK mansion being trashed? He will not get more clients, there's no parties in the DIK mansion. He gets Tommy as client but that's a result of Quinn doubling prices to compensate being robbed. So what's Vinnie's motive?
The only suspicious thing is his friend Nick's room didn't get trashed... and that could have been pure luck because the people wrecking the house started at the first door they saw up the stairs (Jacob) and then continued to the right...
So it's either the Jocks or another (group) that wanted it to look like the Jocks did it or they did it for the Jocks. The dildo's point at the Jocks but putting their signs everywhere when being watched? That's Dawe Dumb 101. So Caleb? Vinnie? Some Tri Beta's?
Only the Jocks have a clear motive but it's still questionable they did it.
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It's a tough call. DPC swung one with ManBun at the preps party, but almost everything he's done storywise has been very obvious early on, so if Nick isn't involved in the laptop/mansion fiasco I would be quite surprised. I'd expect him to have at least had a hand in the laptop in Vinnie's old room, even if he didn't help with the mansion factor. Maybe Vin spun him a tale about needing it for something and then made the post.
I'd like to think it was all a big sham and there's something else going on, but DPC just hasn't been that good with the deception thus far.