VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Tadpol]

Don't forget that during the date with Jill, the MC tells her about his life, the death of his mother. They then share a fairly intimate, romantic moment for the rest of the day.

(if I'm not mistaken, this is also what happens with Sage)

In fact it's not really the fact that we go to see Sage that blocks the road with Jill. It's not her who reacts like a selfish bitch, it's rather the fact that by going to see Sage, you don't experience a romantic and intimate moment with Jill which brings the two very much closer together.

Reasoning in terms of game, by going with Sage, we lose the opportunity to earn XP with Jill, and in the end, we miss this XP to level up.

 

[Doorknocker]

Don't forget that during the date with Jill, the MC tells her about his life, the death of his mother. They then share a fairly intimate, romantic moment for the rest of the day.

(if I'm not mistaken, this is also what happens with Sage)

In fact it's not really the fact that we go to see Sage that blocks the road with Jill. It's not her who reacts like a selfish bitch, it's rather the fact that by going to see Sage, you don't experience a romantic and intimate moment with Jill which brings the two very much closer together.

Reasoning in terms of game, by going with Sage, we lose the opportunity to earn XP with Jill, and in the end, we miss this XP to level up.

Excellent point.

 

[always86]

Yeah but DPC will mind this idea coz you can twist and turn this however you see fit it is still incest which means ban !

I think it sort of depends how long he’d have lived together on how ‘incesty’ it is. If they lived together for a year before he went to college, not really, if they lived together from when they were 10 and 12 then it certainly would be.

The only reason I think it would be interesting is it would give Josy her own drama. At the minute she has just been getting dragged along by Maya and has no plot of her own whatsoever.

i think Zoey won't be a catfight , if you remember how S2 ended you had the option to choose none of the girls , i think Zoey will be a LI for that option , you choose none of the girls Zoey come back and you can date her , i also think that depending on your choices in S3 Interlude that Zoey will either be a CHICK or a DIK your choices will affect how she acts with MC and everyone else ( i have saves of every path and i liked Zoey CHICK attitude ) , i also think new girls will be introduced as LI that is why that option to choose no one is there because Zoey and other LIs will be introduced in S3. And about Jill , something bad will probably happen to Jill if you choose Bella , which is why i will skip everything about Jill in Bella path and i will see Jill story in Jill path only, what i do is changing paths when a girl of that path shows up in the story and skip everything about that girl in other path.

I think Zoey is being reintroduced as a conflict on all relationship paths. Yes you’ll be able to bang on on ‘others’ but the other 5 all have existing relationships and friendships to one degree or another. Take Sage, she is cool not being in a relationship, she didn’t want one in the first place. Maya and Josy and together and friends with Jill. Jill is besties with Bella and close with Josy. Bella is an adult, she’s unlikely to make a scene on campus.

Zoe is completely external to that. She doesn’t have any friends (we know of) on campus, she doesn’t go to the school (yet), she has come back purely because she loves the MC (and she wasn’t good at surfing). I think the only reason for her to come back is to be a cat amongst the pigeons.

Yes, I agree possible things go poorly for Jill, but I think MC and Bella will ‘save’ her. I don’t think she’s going to collapse into a puddle. Fingers crossed for some threesomes!

 

[ChipLecsap]

but if I was the MC

See? What did I just say. . See it from Jill perspective. for her it's "Destiny".

and honestly, she require very little effort. Bella for example dump you because of Cathy's panties. Jill does not dump you because you fuck around. But you need to pick her in very opunity where you can, simple.

 

[sixart]

I think it sort of depends how long he’d have lived together on how ‘incesty’ it is

Nope This is incest... PERIOD ! ( don't try to find loopholes where are none ! )

If you wish this project to get thrown into the dumpster just carry on with such bullshits ! ( don't worry this is not the only case... Dalli and many others already theorizing in the same territory... which is a waste of time... DPC won't indulge in shits like these )

 

[deuxrayme]

I think it sort of depends how long he’d have lived together on how ‘incesty’ it is. If they lived together for a year before he went to college, not really, if they lived together from when they were 10 and 12 then it certainly would be.

From a legal standpoint, it matters immediately after the marriage between parents is on the books.

 

[Ir0n Ma1den]

If Tomm

Nope This is incest... PERIOD ! ( don't try to find loopholes where are none ! )

If you wish this project to get thrown into the dumpster just carry on with such bullshits ! ( don't worry this is not the only case... Dalli and many others already theorizing in the same territory... which is a waste of time... DPC won't indulge in shits like these )

If they aren't biologicly brother and sister, its not incest.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Reasoning in terms of game, by going with Sage, we lose the opportunity to earn XP with Jill, and in the end, we miss this XP to level up.

this is like the best reasoning, or explanation.

 

[TimHawk]

blah

I'll leave the parts about the game as is, because that was not what I replied to in the first place. It was the general statement of

And if a guy went to girl's place to "help her" when she's just a little sick? Hello, no. It's completely unbelieveable to think that this wouldn't be taken as choosing another girl over you. Seriously, who actually does that in real life? "Oh, I caught a cold while in the rain. Come over and pamper me." We all know that no one does that unless they're real interested in that girl.

Now if you only help a person of the opposite gender if you have intentions that focus around a relationship or sex, thats just dandy and I believe you. Im saying I wouldnt, now that might just be 'completely unbelieveable' for you, but that doesnt change the fact.

This is whats happens : you get a call from friend, she asks for your help and you agree to help her. Then a girl pops up and asks you for a surprise date, now you're saying you would go back on your word and cancel on your friend, I say I wouldnt in a million years. That's all.

There is no right or wrong, but the assumption that its 'completely unbelieveable' that some people, and in my opinion the vast majority of people, would act differently than you, is just that : different.

 

[ChipLecsap]

This is whats happens : you get a call from friend, she asks for your help and you agree to help her. Then a girl pops up and asks you for a surprise date, now you're saying you would go back on your word and cancel on your friend, I say I wouldnt in a million years. That's all.

It's depend whether you want to Fuck that girl or not . and in the end of the day it is truly just about that.let's cut this "bros before hoes" bullshit, none believes that.
and to be honest, DPC could have been a real ass, and make it this to the deciding factor for both, not just for Jill. But it does not have negative effect for Sage.

 

[Doorknocker]

blah

Really? Blah? You're now completely ignoring everything I say? Wow, the cycle of bad faith arguments is complete. The goal posts have roamed so far, we can't even see them. The facts and context have been buried so deep, we forget they even existed. You have achieved COMPLETE DENIAL! Congratulations! Well done.

 

[TimHawk]

It's depend whether you want to Fuck that girl or not . and in the end of the day it is truly just about that.let's cut this "bros before hoes" bullshit, none believes that.
and to be honest, DPC could have been a real ass, and make it this to the deciding factor for both, not just for Jill. But it does not have negative effect for Sage.

Of course DPC put the decision there for a reason, and I have no problem with whatever people choose in game, I just reacted to the generalised statement, that nobody would help a friend of the opposite gender unless you wanna have sex with him or her. In game people on the Jill path would be mad to help Sage and vice versa. But to me in RL loyalty means something, and thats all I replied to.

 

[sixart]

If they aren't biologicly brother and sister, its not incest.

You REALLY should get more intel on this subject...

But to me in RL loyalty means something, and thats all I replied to.

Again... it's either Fuckface' or the players ( YOURS ) perspective... none of you considers Jills point of view So the ride in circles begins anew

 

[Ir0n Ma1den]

You REALLY should get more intel on this subject...

Again... it's either Fuckface' or the players ( YOURS ) perspective... none of you considers Jills point of view So the ride in circles begins anew

Enlighten me, man. From what I know if they aren't biologicly brother and sister its not incest.

I see many games where its the case, it also happened in second base if you played the game.

Jossie is hot, and she has certin charisma that other women don't have, he is very protective of her(Despite her stating that he doesn't give a f*ck). + He feels very uncomertable next to her. I think he has some feelings for her, he definetly sees her as a women and wants her.

I also think he shares your opinion, and he tries to supress those feelings.

 

[PashafromRussia]

You forget one point. Jill doesn't know who exactly he is going to help and who he will take care of. It could well have been Josie, with whom MС is friends, it could have been any girl at all, to whom MС has no serious intentions, but for Jill it's still a red line.
Another point is that meeting Sage is also a kind of date. MС opened up to Sage in a completely different light, not just as a guy to fuck, but as something more that she talks about when she meets the hero in episode 7 how important it is for her. As I have already said, Pink specifically made such a moral choice between Jill and Sage, he wanted to make it as ambiguous as possible.

The only thing that confuses me is that we can choose Sage even if we went on a picnic with Jill and fucked in episode 7, lol. This leads me to think that Sage will have the role of a home wrecker in season 3, and not Zoey.

 

[TimHawk]

You REALLY should get more intel on this subject...

Again... it's either Fuckface' or the players ( YOURS ) perspective... none of you considers Jills point of view So the ride in circles begins anew

Jill throwing together a picnic with treats from a bakery and ride to her home on super short notice, just shows how all-in she is on the MC and how much she wants the 2 to work. If MC does reject her surprise date, it would surely be a huge bummer for her.

To me, Jill is like Maya squared, so inexpirienced and disconnected from the college life that the MC lives. Do we know how old Jill is ? She's a 3rd year, right ? So 20-21 ?

 

[sixart]

From what I know if they aren't biologicly brother and sister its not incest.

Exactly why you should further your knowledge about this...

I see many games where its the case, it also happened in second base if you played the game.

I see many games too... but which one of these are represented on Patreon ?

Jill throwing together a picnic with treats from a bakery and ride to her home on super short notice, just shows how all-in she is on the MC and how much she wants the 2 to work. If MC does reject her surprise date, it would surely be a huge bummer for her.

AND go further with this... a young woman who is just crawling out of her shell ( and doesn't have too much confidence by default ) gets put into a position like this what would happen ( not necessarily a game character not necessarily Jill... just in general ! ) when the one she is showing interest in raises some red flags ?!

Exactly what her reaction is at the end of ep 8... she won't engage in a relationship because of this insecurity !

So I dunno... some get it some don't... an endless cycle about a situation where the main factor is not even in the eyes of the masses

Do we know how old Jill is ? She's a 3rd year, right ? So 20-21 ?

Think she is 22 or 23 ( ? )

 

[vogelbeest]

Enlighten me, man. From what I know if they aren't biologicly brother and sister its not incest.

You're correct, incest means breeding between blood related people from the same family, however Patreon in all it's wisdom decided to broaden their definition to sex between (step)family members, i dunno why they did that, but i suspect it's a result of inbreeding or being dropped alot as baby.... Or just being thorough with all those step-cest games around...
Before long they will surely put a ban on landlords, landladies and childhood friends aswell....

 

[NebulousShooter]

It actually sets off a chain of reactions. Not going to picnic = not invited to dinner with friends = can't choose Jill at crossroads. I would even go as far as saying that you are led on to believe that you still are on her path (you can still "fight for her" and do the full recital support) but nope.

That is the worst offence for me in terms of forced plot devices. DPC needs you to see that goddamn house, so because of that you can have a MC that climbs at night fighting for her, reminiscent of her sister, goes on stage helping her achieve one of her life dreams and runs across the town Hollywood style, just to be told that is not enough for ultra instinct princess.

Its funny that the episode that gave us the first sex scene with her and should be the highest point of her path, is the episode that makes her one of the worst persons to the MC. Don't even mention that to be with her you have to jump the most hoops out any LI and she cockblocks you from the legendary Nicole & Sandy threesome in EP6 and Nora, future best milf4ever.

So to all of you Jilleavers out there, I am asking you, was it worth it?

 

[sixart]

however Patreon in all it's wisdom decided to broaden their definition to sex between (step)family members

It's not Patreon... in all it's wisdom !