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lipe2410

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Guys, I need help ...

I've restarted to play the game after a very long break, and I still/again really like it ... its time consuming, but funny, to play some different path's, but now I'm quite frustrated to get the "Envy&Sandy"-scence after the ID-Fake-Bar-visit (simple reason for ... I like bigger boobs). I had fun with Nora in the bar-restroom and after I'm come back I can just order a "surprise me"-beer and have so no chance to go back to the table of Sandy ... sure I can see in Gallery what happen and be "lucky", but I would come to it by the game play ... what "general" rule, stats I need or path I have to follow ? I've tried the Sancho mod, I've used here offered "saves" of different Girl-DIK-pathes, but before I give up and go forward to next episode I just ask for a hint here ... Thanks !
Get your dick sign by Nicole in ep 3 - Succed talk to her in Sywper in ep 4 and 5 - DON'T GO TO PICNIC WITH JILL - In the bar, accept take a phot with Nicole -Enjoy the best threesome of the entire game until now.
 
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the only one I found awkward (not exactly scary), I recall, is in her wedding photo with that idiot James. :HideThePain:
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I actually like her smile in that picture quite a lot, hopefully we get to see her smile like that in season 3 but with MC beside her :sneaky:.

Another one I really like, it's not a smile per se, but in which she looks really happy, is during the dinner date.
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Get your dick sign by Nicole in ep 3 - Succed talk to her in Sywper in ep 4 and 5 - DON'T GO TO PICNIC WITH JILL - In the bar, accept take a phot with Nicole -Enjoy the best threesome of the entire game until now.
Being succesful in Swyper at every point is absolutely required plus skipping Jill. Is getting the dick signed required? Im moderately sure my MC didnt do that... Or am I confusing this with all other content with Envy thats available anyways? Since she still like you a lot with just the Swyper convos regardless of your Fuckfaces DiK/Chick affinity.
 

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Being succesful in Swyper at every point is absolutely required plus skipping Jill. Is getting the dick signed required? Im moderately sure my MC didnt do that... Or am I confusing this with all other content with Envy thats available anyways? Since she still like you a lot with just the Swyper convos regardless of your Fuckfaces DiK/Chick affinity.
When i didn't get my dick signed, Nicole not even wanted talk to MC in Sywper (this breaks my heart :cry:)
 

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When i didn't get my dick signed, Nicole not even wanted talk to MC in Sywper (this breaks my heart :cry:)
Wait what... now I'm starting to doubt reality. Surely shes not locked into DiK/neutral? Right?! Im pretty damn sure I've romanced her in every damn playthrough ive done regardless of affinity ie i have not always gone with Tommy. She still likes me if talked to right. Am I having a stroke?! :eek:
 

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Wait what... now I'm starting to doubt reality. Surely shes not locked into DiK/neutral? Right?! Im pretty damn sure I've romanced her in every damn playthrough ive done regardless of affinity ie i have not always gone with Tommy. She still likes me if talked to right. Am I having a stroke?! :eek:
It's not about affinity, we have to choose "party without limits" to get the dick signed by her
 

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It's not about affinity, we have to choose "party without limits" to get the dick signed by her
Sorry if i was unclear. This wasnt about the dixk signing, i was thinking about her liking you regardless if you talked to her right swyper. And she still likes you even if you dont go with Tommy later. So I assume that the dixk signing is of no importance to her.

Or did I send MC with Tommy every time, just some of the time fuckface didnt get the scene but Envy still like the Fuckface and does other solo stuff with him later due to it?
 

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Sorry if i was unclear. This wasnt about the dixk signing, i was thinking about her liking you regardless if you talked to her right swyper. And she still likes you even if you dont go with Tommy later. So I assume that the dixk signing is of no importance to her.
The dick sign is important because if you don't get it she won't chat with you in sywper (we can scroll up, but she will scroll down), and like you said, without sywper we can't progress with her.
 
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Hope there would be a other insane event similar to hells week, like the naked mile or the contest in beta house.
 

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Sure she understands it... but I think YOU and your fellow users who have the same argument here don't really understand how women actually work ! :KEK: ( especially in this very case where we have a noob on strange waters... she and almost all the others who's confidence level ain't at the level of GOD would choose to not engage into the uncertain... but that's something you folks would not get in a million years since you are still looking at things from Fuckface' perspective ;) )
I love how some of you think human emotions are black and white. Yes, she understand, but it does not mean she is not disappointed that something she wanted didn't go the way she wanted. You can't judge her for this.
She like a guy, and that guy chose someone else over her. She would be more understandable if its actually a relative to MC , his father his mother , sister, brother. But in the end of the day its just an another bitch , and Jill at this point knew MC dating with others. And Sage is not dying, its just having a fucking flu.
so yeah Jill is selfish, so what? No One actually bother to see this from Jill perspective. :ROFLMAO:
I get it that it might be a sudden shift in Jill personality, but its miles better, than her sudden shift, of believing Tybalt based on just his words.
I 100% agree that Jill feeling disappointed is justified. But, what's her reaction of being disappointed? MC is blocked from her route, i.e., she does not consider him boyfriend material. Even if the MC otherwise tries to appeal to her by fighting for her and helping on recital. That's just way too overreacting.

That's the problem - to be with Jill, the MC has to drop everything he planned and cater to her wishes whenever she fancies. It could have been MC's dad who's sick, or Derek needing bail from the police, and it would not have made a difference to her.
 

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Or did I send MC with Tommy every time, just some of the time fuckface didnt get the scene but Envy still like the Fuckface and does other solo stuff with him later due to it?
It sounds like you're confusing events. The dick signing happens during the hellweek Pink Rose visit and is when you meet her for the first time not the trip to the MILF bar with Tommy.
 

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The dick sign is important because if you don't get it she won't chat with you in sywper (we can scroll up, but she will scroll down), and like you said, without sywper we can't progress with her.
I guess I have to assume I always went for partying without limits for Fuckface, and getting the dick writing scene then? Did I do that even on my mass chick runs? That feels wrong somehow. Huh. I dont like those runs at all. I mostly do Neutral or DiK plays. Thanks for the discussion, this was illuminating.

It sounds like you're confusing events. The dick signing happens during the hellweek Pink Rose visit and is when you meet her for the first time not the trip to the MILF bar with Tommy.
Nah, its just that my premise must have been faulty. If she doesnt even talk to Fuckface on swyper without the dick signing, I have to have done that choice every time, because how else would Fuckface even talk to her?
 

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Exactly my point... Like you can have all the goldenboy stuff and confliction but at least give us the option to do something about this if we want. How on earth is there an acceptable ending where MC doesn't get confronted about this and all main interests lose interest about him? Mona literally left. Not trying to be naive or sensitive, it's not unrealistic at all. But any ending without MC losing all the main girls would totally be. Just like you said, guy thinks so much about Chad being gay and we get a choice on that but that other thing? Nah "she's evil" that's the best we get lmao.
No idea if this helps you are not, but think of it as DPC having finite time to put ressources into the game. So when he writes it and determines wether there is a choice or not, it may simply be for reasons that the time allocated for a certain episode just doesnt allow for it. We also have to consider that we are halfway into the story, maybe the Quinn vs MC confrontation is a big part in a future season and it just didnt fit earlier.

Season 1 & 2 if you just look at the bare bones of it is the MC getting popular with all the girls, now imagine a huge conflict between the MC and Quinn right of the bat. Sarah, Melanie, Rio, Camila scenes would disappear because he wouldnt be the chill, easy to talk too MC anymore, he would threaten their buisness. Then their is Sage and the other HOTs, with the MC beeing new and all, I have no idea how they would react.

In the end DPC drives the bus and we're all in the backseats, we can bitch and moan and point out flaws and discuss cool or in our opinion better options, but certain things are harder to understand when you only have 50% of the story. So my advise would be to enjoy the parts you like and discuss improvements you would like to see here with us, but in a somewhat respectfull manner. I failed at that too sometimes, especially after the interlude and that speechbubble disaster, but in the end there is a reason why we're on page 9252, because wether one likes it or not, the game makes us engage as a community of fans.
 

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MC cannot control the lives of his babes. they get hurt. Quinn could be killed any time she visits the drug den.
She could have been knocked out on the street and a loryy could pass over. end of story.
She is dealing with the shady stuff hustlers do for a living.
Trying to keep her wits about her and mingling the hustler talk already lost her major clients.
 

BigBlueDude

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Exactly my point... Like you can have all the goldenboy stuff and confliction but at least give us the option to do something about this if we want. How on earth is there an acceptable ending where MC doesn't get confronted about this and all main interests lose interest about him? Mona literally left. Not trying to be naive or sensitive, it's not unrealistic at all. But any ending without MC losing all the main girls would totally be. Just like you said, guy thinks so much about Chad being gay and we get a choice on that but that other thing? Nah "she's evil" that's the best we get lmao.
No idea if this helps you are not, but think of it as DPC having finite time to put ressources into the game. So when he writes it and determines wether there is a choice or not, it may simply be for reasons that the time allocated for a certain episode just doesnt allow for it. We also have to consider that we are halfway into the story, maybe the Quinn vs MC confrontation is a big part in a future season and it just didnt fit earlier.

Season 1 & 2 if you just look at the bare bones of it is the MC getting popular with all the girls, now imagine a huge conflict between the MC and Quinn right of the bat. Sarah, Melanie, Rio, Camila scenes would disappear because he wouldnt be the chill, easy to talk too MC anymore, he would threaten their buisness. Then their is Sage and the other HOTs, with the MC beeing new and all, I have no idea how they would react.

In the end DPC drives the bus and we're all in the backseats, we can bitch and moan and point out flaws and discuss cool or in our opinion better options, but certain things are harder to understand when you only have 50% of the story. So my advise would be to enjoy the parts you like and discuss improvements you would like to see here with us, but in a somewhat respectfull manner. I failed at that too sometimes, especially after the interlude and that speechbubble disaster, but in the end there is a reason why we're on page 9252, because wether one likes it or not, the game makes us engage as a community of fans.
To add to TimHawk point, its the difference between an "in story answer" and "real world answer." Also known more famously as the Watsonian or Doylist answer, good thing to google and read about in depth.

When something doesnt make sense in say a [random TV show name here] the answer can be as easy as that money ran out half a season ago so the ending was scuffed and not worked on, or it randomly got renewed and the ending is ignored. This is the Doylist reason. Its the real world circumstances that forces the story to be in a specific way. When you look at any type of media in that way so much stupidity suddenly makes perfect sense.

In any case, the Watsonian answer would be that the story is not ready for the crash of Quinn and Sage yet, its too early and too much is going on, the Doylist answer is just as TimHawk said, where just barely 50% in so far. 16-20 episodes of DiK to be made.
 

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How to locate a Bella smile:
Other player: it's just Bella's usual facial expression.
Bella fans: (zoom in on that render of her and shout out) Do you see that, look at the faint lift at one corner of her mouth: She's smiling; She's a very happy woman now.
What do you mean?? Isn't it easy to tell? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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